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Re: Fake moon landings
By: Muscle Date: August 15, 2019, 5:40 pm
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[quote author=Teapot link=topic=154.msg3927#msg3927
date=1565907159]
HTML https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/apollo-rocketed-through-van-allen-belts/
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They found the safest way through, that's what I'd already read.
Maybe they did. Why are the belts a problem now? are they a
problem now? We are told they are a problem but in what context.
Are they only an issue for deep space. What is that astronaut
referring to in my video?
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: Muscle Date: August 15, 2019, 5:42 pm
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Can you also watch the bart video
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: doc Date: August 15, 2019, 7:03 pm
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[quote author=Teapot link=topic=154.msg3927#msg3927
date=1565907159]
HTML https://www.popsci.com/blog-network/vintage-space/apollo-rocketed-through-van-allen-belts/
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HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz5tSegU16E
change the word moon to Mars and make it look like a 'new
problem'
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOM-cSa93IM
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsieKt3DI0A
sounds very much misunderstood from the videos and still needs
investigating, so 50 years ago we just said lets do it anyway ,
but now its a big problem. If the moon mission did happen that's
super shoddy.
besides NASA announced in 2013 tht they had discovered a third
belt , so they had no idea if Apollo took the 'safe ' route.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dux2ofFHs90
I dont relly understand all of this yet , a bit like a new
project or system i get to deploy at work , i certainly wouldnt
be going live with it till I did know though.
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: Brett Date: August 16, 2019, 2:18 am
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But how can you fool the nasa staff? The control room maybe, but
what about all the people involved with managing the payload,
building the landing craft, the testing of it, ensuring there’s
enough fuel to take a landing craft there, the safety inspectors
to ensure that everything is functioning correctly and secured?
Loads of other people involved. I can’t see them spending an
absurd amount of money on a moon lander and then bringing all
the extra fuel and gear and just jettisoning it all into space.
It’s the equivalent of driving to a fishing spot and not getting
out the rods!
Don’t know about the Allen belts and frankly don’t have time to
watch the vid, but I will say a radiation belt would be the
least of their concerns in the space race.
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: Teapot Date: August 16, 2019, 4:29 am
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I watched a bit of the video, it's fairly obvious why the
astronauts get pissy, its because that guy is a cnut. Im sure
we'd all be angry. The part of the earth bit with na i only
watched the first 5 minutes. Ill have to comment on it at a
later time when i have more time, but if you read all the books
that i have which are exceptionally detailed on many aspects,
then you might have a greater understanding of the attitudes of
nasa, the astronauts, and the engineers, the processes they went
through etc. It wasn't just a job, it was the most prestigious
and desirable career of all time.
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: Teapot Date: August 16, 2019, 4:30 am
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That wires video is nonsense.
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: doc Date: August 16, 2019, 5:15 am
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[quote author=Teapot link=topic=154.msg3940#msg3940
date=1565947850]
That wires video is nonsense.
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when you understand how video works , chroma/luma 1vpp , it's
not nonsense , it's not an artifact or synch pulses or something
in the blanking intervals , its wires attached in the same
places more than once . If it's not wires its something else
unspecified attached to the space suits, its no less real than
the astronauts being there in space suits .
Brett if you were faking a mission to the moon in order to not
fool everyone and have them 'in on it' you would have the
fuel/rocket/payload all in place as it would be for the trip.
Its not as if governments are shy about wasting other people's
money , UK/USA invented evidence of WMD's in order to waste
hundreds of millions in order to decimate a country on a lie .
They would have thrown any amount of money to go to the moon and
they would have thrown any amount of money in order to fake
going to the moon if it wasn't possible. even if we did go
there , it was a massive propaganda mission and a psyop.
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QO49ktlgJs
This is the kind of mindset the government uses and these
predictions are 100% correct , with Keynesianism waste is seen
as a good thing. If they morals and cared about cost they would
have left it to the free market. Which is 99.999% quicker and
more efficient and better quality than the government , the moon
landing would be an outlier of massive proportions . They had no
buyers and no retail competition with an unlimited budget , bad
ideas would have been built on not changed. The passion of Nasa
employees has no bearing on this , Clive sinclair was very
passionate about his C5 , you only know your not very good until
the competition comes along with something better . If Nasa was
good and we did go to the moon 50 years ago we would have weekly
trips to the moon by now. They got to the moon 50 years ago with
the computing power of a calculator , yet everyone has the
processing power of a PC in there pockets . If we did go they
have been a massive waste ever since and should have been
dismantled along with all of the apollo data, they have
completely stood still. If you read creature from jekyll island
you will see why they are still there, along with lockhead etc.
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: Teapot Date: August 16, 2019, 6:40 am
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Why would we be having weekly trips to the moon. If you read all
the autobiographies etc, then you will know that the publics
attention quickly waned so much so that even Apollo 13 had very
little coverage in comparison to the previous missions, until
the o2 tank exploded.
Was Apollo 13 a hoax too? Lol for what reason?
The cost involved was horrendous and its only space x that has
brought launch costs down, the shuttle cost a huge amount to
launch just for earth orbit.
Once they had been to the moon, what was the point to continue
going?
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: doc Date: August 16, 2019, 7:13 am
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[quote author=Teapot link=topic=154.msg3945#msg3945
date=1565955646]
Why would we be having weekly trips to the moon.
The cost involved was horrendous and its only space x that has
brought launch costs down, the shuttle cost a huge amount to
launch just for earth orbit.
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Firstly demand , people want to experience space travel like
virgin Galactic. Have we really had a 40 year dead spot where
no innovation and no future trips have been planned or have we
found out there are technical hurdles we have yet to overcome?
Why haven't we been to Mars?
secondly space x has brought the cost down , free market
competition against a organisation full of the worlds best and
brightest with an unlimited budget and a 60-70 year head start .
I do accept there are a few kinds of people in this kind of
debate , some who will believe we went there despite any amount
of proof we didn't.
some who will believe we didn't go despite all the proof that we
did .
some who will form or hold an opinion based on what they see and
what is presented , I want to believe we went so I am not
looking for confirmation bias , but a lot of it just doesn't
stack up. A lot of the footage is dubious. the actions and
demeanor of the astronauts is too. Some of the images have the
same backgrounds from different missions in different locations.
lots of red flags for me. There will never be any answers for
these so it s pretty futile, even if Buzz Aldrin admitted is was
a hoax on his deathbed people would put it down to him being old
and senile and still believe it . If nasa admitted they faked
some of the footage or they accidentally put out some
simulations , I would probably be 80/20 in the fact that we did
go.
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Re: Fake moon landings
By: Trident Date: August 16, 2019, 2:57 pm
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HTML https://www.space.com/nasa-moon-2024-return-cost-revealed.html
The cost is not really that great considering a far smaller
nation like the UK spends half this amount on foreign aid every
year.
If they could do it back then they could do it now, safer and
probably cheaper than back then.
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