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       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Newcy Date: August 14, 2019, 2:09 pm
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       That's the only logical, reasonable course of action though
       Muscle, destroy all data. What else would you do? 😉
       #Post#: 3870--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Trident Date: August 14, 2019, 4:02 pm
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       Its a bit retarded to think that every single scrap of data
       would not have been preserved after the biggest achievement of
       mankind.
       Does not make sense.
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       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: doc Date: August 14, 2019, 4:59 pm
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       [quote author=Trident link=topic=154.msg3870#msg3870
       date=1565816522]
       Its a bit retarded to think that every single scrap of data
       would not have been preserved after the biggest achievement of
       mankind.
       Does not make sense.
       [/quote]
       NASA loose  all data from most important achievement ever
       Yes very strange, at 911 they removed every bit of evidence at
       what was a crime/murder scene and shipped it all of to china .
       Leon Britton lost the peadophile dosier .
       Deep blue deconstructed and unavailable for examination after
       beating Kasparov
       Epstein dying along with the Clinton kill list is masses of
       destruction of evidence
       Oswald/Ruby convenient death
       Blood and cadaver evidence from Maddy ignored .
       Weapons of mass destruction evidence made up.
       Almost like there was something to hide , on top of that people
       are programmed what to think.
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       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Newcy Date: August 15, 2019, 4:08 am
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       I just don't know how people can't see it doc, it just baffles
       me.
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       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Brett Date: August 15, 2019, 8:53 am
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       Lol! I've no doubt that stuff goes on in the background and
       there is certainly some 'underhand' tactics used by all
       governments.
       I'm not saying all of those things listed above aren't without
       some interference or orchestration.
       What I'm saying is it's done on a smaller scale, more subtle.
       Less people involved means less risk.
       The sort of mass conspiracy theories involving casts of
       thousands I find utterly ridiculous. People aren't good at
       keeping big secrets. Even fcuking murders that have long since
       gotten away with their deed will confide their darkest secrets
       with people, often to their detriment!
       That's what I don't see.
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       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: doc Date: August 15, 2019, 12:51 pm
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       [quote author=Brett link=topic=154.msg3895#msg3895
       date=1565877231]
       Lol! I've no doubt that stuff goes on in the background and
       there is certainly some 'underhand' tactics used by all
       governments.
       I'm not saying all of those things listed above aren't without
       some interference or orchestration.
       What I'm saying is it's done on a smaller scale, more subtle.
       Less people involved means less risk.
       The sort of mass conspiracy theories involving casts of
       thousands I find utterly ridiculous. People aren't good at
       keeping big secrets. Even fcuking murders that have long since
       gotten away with their deed will confide their darkest secrets
       with people, often to their detriment!
       That's what I don't see.
       [/quote]
       Well Hollywood has been a satanic peado ring for years and its
       only recently that people have spoken out  ? Same with savile.
       operation Northwoods was a theory for years, even when its
       publicly released its denied.
       Something like a moon landing would have been a need to know
       basis , very compartmentalised by its nature and only a tiny
       fraction would have had to be 'in on it'
       As you say many speak out to their detriment , like the clinton
       kill list , even when evidence enters the public domain people
       choose to ignore it ( like the fake moon position video) and
       stick with the official line that they've been programmed to
       see.  anyone who speaks out ends up dead , media labels them as
       mental and 'fake news' or deluded .    On the Clinton kill list
       theres a guy who was sht 4 times in the chest with a shotgun (
       deemed as a suicide) a guy who was shot in the head , found in a
       pool ( deemed suicide by drowning )
       People have spoken out about the moon landing being fake but the
       are generally ignored and then Hollywood put out a few moon
       landing or apollo films . even if i mentioned names you would
       say "ahh but hes a nutcase, it said so on TV"
       #Post#: 3924--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Trident Date: August 15, 2019, 3:33 pm
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       Science builds upon its self at an alarming rate.
       How can they not know what they did back then??
       Scientific principles would have got a man to the moon.
       Never once have we been near the belts.
       #Post#: 3925--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Brett Date: August 15, 2019, 3:52 pm
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       How would the moon landing be compartmentalised with a tiny
       fraction of people? Think of all the NASA staff, the engineers,
       technicians, the payload specialists, the manufacturers, safety
       inspectors, the bloody cleaners lol
       They all would have had some input into the planning,
       construction and execution of the mission.
       With the peado ring you are talking about a group of like minded
       individuals who are exploiting the bodies and the fear of a few.
       It's quite common that victims wont speak out for years until
       they feel that the perpetrators no longer exert any control over
       them, whether its perceived control or in a more literal sense.
       What I was referring to is how most people can't keep a secret,
       literally to save their life.
       Personally I trust very little of what I read/hear from the
       media, as I know its all sensationalised and bullsh1t. I tend to
       just apply any knowledge or experience I have with the matter
       and rationalise to reach the most logical or likely conclusion.
       "All things considered equal, the most likely explanation is
       usually the correct one."
       Eg. Did man overcome considerable technical hurdles to travel to
       and land on the moon? Or did the government orchestrate a state
       secret overcoming technical hurdles to develop a realistic
       vision of a moon landing, simultaneously involving hundreds if
       not thousands of people sworn to secrecy and risking the state's
       precious image of the land of the free, set against a formidable
       propaganda driven enemy on the world stage?
       It seems obvious to me.
       #Post#: 3926--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Muscle Date: August 15, 2019, 4:57 pm
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       [quote author=Brett link=topic=154.msg3925#msg3925
       date=1565902332]
       How would the moon landing be compartmentalised with a tiny
       fraction of people? Think of all the NASA staff, the engineers,
       technicians, the payload specialists, the manufacturers, safety
       inspectors, the bloody cleaners lol
       They all would have had some input into the planning,
       construction and execution of the mission.
       With the peado ring you are talking about a group of like minded
       individuals who are exploiting the bodies and the fear of a few.
       It's quite common that victims wont speak out for years until
       they feel that the perpetrators no longer exert any control over
       them, whether its perceived control or in a more literal sense.
       What I was referring to is how most people can't keep a secret,
       literally to save their life.
       Personally I trust very little of what I read/hear from the
       media, as I know its all sensationalised and bullsh1t. I tend to
       just apply any knowledge or experience I have with the matter
       and rationalise to reach the most logical or likely conclusion.
       "All things considered equal, the most likely explanation is
       usually the correct one."
       Eg. Did man overcome considerable technical hurdles to travel to
       and land on the moon? Or did the government orchestrate a state
       secret overcoming technical hurdles to develop a realistic
       vision of a moon landing, simultaneously involving hundreds if
       not thousands of people sworn to secrecy and risking the state's
       precious image of the land of the free, set against a formidable
       propaganda driven enemy on the world stage?
       It seems obvious to me.
       [/quote]
       The vast majority of NASA staff were also probably fooled. They
       believed they were watching and communicating with the
       astronauts on the moon on all 6 missions.
       You haven't tackled
       van allen belts
       and
       the bart vid. Faking position.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAtn7hgfQ7A
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       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Teapot Date: August 15, 2019, 5:12 pm
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