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       #Post#: 3770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: doc Date: August 13, 2019, 8:52 am
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       [quote author=cu3ed link=topic=154.msg3764#msg3764
       date=1565698967]
       It was technically impossible to "fake" the landings for the
       amount of broadcast time.
       Its was technologically much easier to actually go to the moon.
       The double loops in thinking is **** staggering what people tell
       themselves.
       [/quote]
       forget the question of whether we went there or not , its far
       easier to fake than actually go there . It wasn't technically
       impossible to fake at all , however it's technically impossible
       to go back.
       I have no idea why people think it was impossible to fake ,
       because the at the time tv broadcast want capable. do you think
       Nasa would have used off the shelf tv broadcast equipment with
       an endless budget ?   I do not understand the logic in thinking
       it was easier to go there, mans greatest accomplishment ever
       50-100 years before its time , strapping men to explosives ,
       staying in zero gravity/vacuum driving cars and coming back
       uninjured , involving £billions and thousands of people was
       easier to pull of than recreating it in a studio ?   Let's take
       a lunar rover but not leave a telescope.
       There is faked footage of the moon missions , so faking it was
       definitely done .
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9Bzi_GyD0
       #Post#: 3771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: andy_chelt Date: August 13, 2019, 9:13 am
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       The Soviet Union had spies at the top level of virtually every
       US agency and I'm sure that included NASA also. They would of
       found out moon landings were faked if they were faked and would
       of been delighted to embarrass the US if they could. The never
       found any evidence to discredit the moon landing show its very
       unlikely it was faked.
       #Post#: 3772--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: doc Date: August 13, 2019, 9:30 am
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       [quote author=andy_chelt link=topic=154.msg3771#msg3771
       date=1565705620]
       The Soviet Union had spies at the top level of virtually every
       US agency and I'm sure that included NASA also. They would of
       found out moon landings were faked if they were faked and would
       of been delighted to embarrass the US if they could. The never
       found any evidence to discredit the moon landing show its very
       unlikely it was faked.
       [/quote]
       conjecture your honor.
       Im sure there a lots of spies who know about Bill and hillary's
       sordid criminal past/present who also keep their mouths shut .
       In that kind of arms/space race you don't really want to be the
       winner , the winner did actually turn out to be the biggest
       looser . what better way to convince the tax payer they should
       pay billions than to convince them they are in a race against
       the commies.  Once they've won you carry on paying. there's a
       bit more going on than to just have bragging rights of trying to
       embarrass someone.  Besides it was one giant leap for mankind (
       not one giant leap for America)
       #Post#: 3774--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Brett Date: August 13, 2019, 10:05 am
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       You are missing the point though doc. Much easier to fake it
       than to go to the moon, but they did it because it was hard.
       If it was easy the Russians probably would have beat them to it.
       They were first in space I believe.
       And if it really was faked why didn’t the Russians fake it
       first? It’s because having it uncovered would discredit an
       entire nation on the world stage, something that was unthinkable
       by the Russians or the USA.
       #Post#: 3775--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: cu3ed Date: August 13, 2019, 10:13 am
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       [quote author=doc link=topic=154.msg3770#msg3770
       date=1565704351]
       [quote author=cu3ed link=topic=154.msg3764#msg3764
       date=1565698967]
       It was technically impossible to "fake" the landings for the
       amount of broadcast time.
       Its was technologically much easier to actually go to the moon.
       The double loops in thinking is **** staggering what people tell
       themselves.
       [/quote]
       forget the question of whether we went there or not , its far
       easier to fake than actually go there . It wasn't technically
       impossible to fake at all , however it's technically impossible
       to go back.
       I have no idea why people think it was impossible to fake ,
       because the at the time tv broadcast want capable. do you think
       Nasa would have used off the shelf tv broadcast equipment with
       an endless budget ?   I do not understand the logic in thinking
       it was easier to go there, mans greatest accomplishment ever
       50-100 years before its time , strapping men to explosives ,
       staying in zero gravity/vacuum driving cars and coming back
       uninjured , involving £billions and thousands of people was
       easier to pull of than recreating it in a studio ?   Let's take
       a lunar rover but not leave a telescope.
       There is faked footage of the moon missions , so faking it was
       definitely done .
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9Bzi_GyD0
       [/quote]
       Technically it was impossible, the broadcasts went on for hours
       and hours. Every radio scope and broadcaster had some part in
       beaming the broadcasts.
       There was nothing available at the time that could have done it.
       Its like saying cavemen could have made a modern day mobile
       phone.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs
       #Post#: 3783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Newcy Date: August 13, 2019, 10:46 am
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       I'm not going to get drawn into another Internet argument as it
       just takes up too much time, BUT people think it's easier to
       actually go to the moon than to fake it in a studio? That's just
       staggering.
       #Post#: 3785--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: cu3ed Date: August 13, 2019, 10:54 am
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       [quote author=Newcy link=topic=154.msg3783#msg3783
       date=1565711184]
       I'm not going to get drawn into another Internet argument as it
       just takes up too much time, BUT people think it's easier to
       actually go to the moon than to fake it in a studio? That's just
       staggering.
       [/quote]
       Only because people seem to think they had CGI and the same ways
       of capturing images then. Today, of course not, back then, its
       true.
       No hardrives, no digital camera, everything was analogue etc.
       #Post#: 3788--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Newcy Date: August 13, 2019, 10:59 am
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       Have you seen pictures of Apollo 11 on the moon? It's laughable.
       #Post#: 3790--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: doc Date: August 13, 2019, 11:46 am
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       [quote author=cu3ed link=topic=154.msg3775#msg3775
       date=1565709188]
       [quote author=doc link=topic=154.msg3770#msg3770
       date=1565704351]
       [quote author=cu3ed link=topic=154.msg3764#msg3764
       date=1565698967]
       It was technically impossible to "fake" the landings for the
       amount of broadcast time.
       Its was technologically much easier to actually go to the moon.
       The double loops in thinking is **** staggering what people tell
       themselves.
       [/quote]
       forget the question of whether we went there or not , its far
       easier to fake than actually go there . It wasn't technically
       impossible to fake at all , however it's technically impossible
       to go back.
       I have no idea why people think it was impossible to fake ,
       because the at the time tv broadcast want capable. do you think
       Nasa would have used off the shelf tv broadcast equipment with
       an endless budget ?   I do not understand the logic in thinking
       it was easier to go there, mans greatest accomplishment ever
       50-100 years before its time , strapping men to explosives ,
       staying in zero gravity/vacuum driving cars and coming back
       uninjured , involving £billions and thousands of people was
       easier to pull of than recreating it in a studio ?   Let's take
       a lunar rover but not leave a telescope.
       There is faked footage of the moon missions , so faking it was
       definitely done .
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz9Bzi_GyD0
       [/quote]
       Technically it was impossible, the broadcasts went on for hours
       and hours. Every radio scope and broadcaster had some part in
       beaming the broadcasts.
       There was nothing available at the time that could have done it.
       Its like saying cavemen could have made a modern day mobile
       phone.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_loUDS4c3Cs
       [/quote]
       I have seen this video.
       Its a video of someone reviewing technology that was available
       to the general public at the time.  This was Nasa with billions
       and there own R&D for broadcast equipment and manufacturers
       building prototypes for the mission itself. Technically it
       wasn't impossible. This is a bit like saying the rocket was
       impossible because we couldn't buy a kit and put it together and
       do it ourselves. Your comparing apples to oranges .
       Ive worked in this industry for over 25 years , I have seen many
       proprietary prototypes for dedicated broadcasts that also would
       be impossible in videos like this .
       Just because it was analogue and not digital it makes no
       difference , this was an analogue camera transmitting either
       from the moon or a studio , being uplinked to satellite and then
       downlinked to anyone who wanted to listen or record . If they
       used CGI they would have edited the wires out .
       easier to go there , yet the say the camera was up against the
       window, yet its obvious there was a lot of distance to make the
       earth look further away , it was time stamped and supplied from
       NASA , Aldrin lost his mind.
       They faked this footage along with footage on the moons surface
       on other missions. a lot of the photos have been doctored , why
       ?
       #Post#: 3792--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Fake moon landings 
       By: Teapot Date: August 13, 2019, 12:03 pm
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       Honestly, at which point do you stop believing this, do you
       believe they travelled to the moon?
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