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Need some advice
By: Andy(Uncle_peter) Date: June 24, 2019, 1:42 am
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I've only been on 450mg of Test e for 3 weeks and I'm
struggling. I've put on about 7lbs of weight, probably mostly
water and I can really feel the difference, usual daily
activities are harder. I'm tempted to stop this cycle early,
wait two weeks and run the PCT, and and then run a slightly
difference cycle with another compound? Or I carry on but
introduce Nolva or Arimidex to reduce the water retention?
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Re: Need some advice
By: PartyBoy Date: June 24, 2019, 2:11 am
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0.5mg adex initially & assess. Look to reduce to 0.5mg eod
Ensure plenty fluids, reduce sodium if not already under control
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Re: Need some advice
By: Andy(Uncle_peter) Date: June 24, 2019, 2:18 am
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[quote author=PartyBoy link=topic=124.msg2051#msg2051
date=1561360314]
0.5mg adex initially & assess. Look to reduce to 0.5mg eod
Ensure plenty fluids, reduce sodium if not already under control
[/quote]
I meant to get some adex, but picked up Nolva instead, can I use
the Nolva in a hope that it would help, or is adex the only way?
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Re: Need some advice
By: PartyBoy Date: June 24, 2019, 4:52 am
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I'm not a fan of that approach tbh. Nolva doesn't really affect
the level of circulatory (aromatised) estrogen, rather competes
at the ER - it does this quite successfully in high ER sites ie
breast tissue. It is far better to halt the cause, rather than
allow the cause to continue and attempt to limit the 'damage'
further down the line.
A real world analogy might be this...
Your neighbour has been operating a commercial concrete hammer
drill all day long, 10 ft away from your front door. Which will
be more effective at treating your splitting headache?
a) Taking him out sniper style from your upstairs window or from
behind a grassy knoll to treat the cause or;
b) Taking paracetamol to treat the symptom.
Extreme, but you see my point
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Re: Need some advice
By: Andy(Uncle_peter) Date: June 24, 2019, 6:46 am
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[quote author=PartyBoy link=topic=124.msg2056#msg2056
date=1561369978]
I'm not a fan of that approach tbh. Nolva doesn't really affect
the level of circulatory (aromatised) estrogen, rather competes
at the ER - it does this quite successfully in high ER sites ie
breast tissue. It is far better to halt the cause, rather than
allow the cause to continue and attempt to limit the 'damage'
further down the line.
A real world analogy might be this...
Your neighbour has been operating a commercial concrete hammer
drill all day long, 10 ft away from your front door. Which will
be more effective at treating your splitting headache?
a) Taking him out sniper style from your upstairs window or from
behind a grassy knoll to treat the cause or;
b) Taking paracetamol to treat the symptom.
Extreme, but you see my point
[/quote]
Great analogy thanks. I've just found out that we're going
abroad as well in 4 weeks time for 9 days. So, I'm going to
stop the test and then start PCT in 1 weeks time, I can use both
the nolva and Clomid for this. Can I start the Nolva sooner.
When back I will have a look and maybe change the cycle but with
some Adex as well.
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Re: Need some advice
By: Andy(Uncle_peter) Date: June 26, 2019, 9:14 am
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[quote author=PartyBoy link=topic=124.msg2051#msg2051
date=1561360314]
0.5mg adex initially & assess. Look to reduce to 0.5mg eod
Ensure plenty fluids, reduce sodium if not already under control
[/quote]
Feeling back to normal now, must have been the sodium and lack
of fluids, I had been rushing around for a few days which didn't
help. plus the jab points are feeling so much better now, just
a bit sore during the first day of pinning.
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Re: Need some advice
By: Brett Date: June 29, 2019, 4:19 am
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I also noticed I was feeling quite low about 3-4 weeks in,
almost like a depressed state. I’m taking a mild anti e now and
feeling much better, stronger sex drive, happier, more energy.
Does sound like you may have had high estrogen mate.
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Re: Need some advice
By: Andy(Uncle_peter) Date: July 1, 2019, 5:19 am
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[quote author=Brett link=topic=124.msg2246#msg2246
date=1561799997]
I also noticed I was feeling quite low about 3-4 weeks in,
almost like a depressed state. I’m taking a mild anti e now and
feeling much better, stronger sex drive, happier, more energy.
Does sound like you may have had high estrogen mate.
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Yea, I've got some water retention again, this always increases
my BP a little, makes me feel heavy. I'm going to cut this
cycle earlier, so one more week, and then I will give it 2-3
weeks and then start PCT. I've got an unexpected weeks holiday
to the med and hopefully I will fee more up for it by then. I
will kick another cycle off in August/sep with Anti-e as well.
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