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#Post#: 2008--------------------------------------------------
IPTV
By: Dazzz Date: June 22, 2019, 1:32 pm
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Anyone use it? Is it al ot better than kodi? I always found kodi
to be unreliable for live events. Is it normal to pay for a
subscription for IPTV? Been offered 12 months for £35
#Post#: 2012--------------------------------------------------
Re: IPTV
By: Bookerman Date: June 22, 2019, 2:58 pm
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#Post#: 2015--------------------------------------------------
Re: IPTV
By: doc Date: June 22, 2019, 3:11 pm
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[quote author=Dazzz link=topic=122.msg2008#msg2008
date=1561228331]
Anyone use it? Is it al ot better than kodi? I always found kodi
to be unreliable for live events. Is it normal to pay for a
subscription for IPTV? Been offered 12 months for £35
[/quote]
Kodi is good if you have the right add ons, IPTV being one , if
you subscribe you are much likley to get a good service but just
know they can shut down the day after you pay for 12 months . I
work with this stuff pretty much everyday , but its ussually
trying to shut these things down rather than get the working ;)
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Re: IPTV
By: PartyBoy Date: June 23, 2019, 3:16 am
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I know a fair bit about this, purely research purposes as the
saying goes.
IPTV in its present form, when compared to Kodi is like night
and day.
When it comes to cost, it is all relative. £100 a year for a
really good service that would otherwise be upwards of £80 pm
has it's obvious attraction. Paying £30 or £40 a year might
sound better in monetary terms, but only if the service is
comparable. I'm not saying that using a service at £100 p.a will
be great and the service at £40 will be crap..... not at all,
but the point remains.
If I were on the lookout for a good service, then £100 p.a would
be excessive, because I know that an equally good service can be
had for around half of that.
When I talk about service, I'm talking about the server setup,
the loads placed upon that setup, whether the sever is capable
of servicing the number of users, how the admins of said servers
deal with the handling of clients and their dealing with server
hiccups or maintenance, how quickly issues are addressed and
finally, aside from the full spectrum of live tv, what
additional services are included eg ppv & VOD.
It's an ongoing cat and mouse affair that has been going on for
a couple of decades, from the early days of sat card share -
ring..... and Euro voxx's on the cable side back in the days of
Telewest and NTL. Nagra3 encryption meant that side was over
pretty much so meant a mass exodus over to the sat side and the
newer decryptions cams that were coming available -
CCcam/oscam/mgcam etc etc
As the interwebz progressed and fast connections are fairly
commonplace (I'd say a 5meg DOWN speed is the absolute
minimum.....10-15meg will be more than enough) then the iptv
scene really took off.
It's as cat andd mouse as ever. Only recently a court order was
granted on behalf of the Premier league that forced the big 6
ISP's to do more to block iptv services (specifically when
Premier League games were being broadcast (
HTML https://www.premierleague.com/news/787656?sf194043513=1
)). It
is known as the EPL block. This was very problematic for the
more established servers as they were the first to be targeted,
though even smaller ones are now suffering during PL games.
Workarounds were not far behind with vpn's becoming more
popular.
It's not for everyone. No matter what the provider claims it
WILL NOT be a flawless service. There will be the occasional
glitch or occasional server maintenance downtime that simply
isn't there if you pay Rupert £80+ pm for your all singing Sqy Q
or pay Richard for his Virginia V6 settop box. You can see the
attraction though when you can get the job lot of channels ppv
vod for little more than the cost of a fire stic (I dunno
£35/£40??) or dedicated box like a z gemma h9 or i55 for £85)
and a years service (say £40 or £45ish).
People in general want simplicity. That's led to the explosion
of firesticks for this kind of thing. No wires.... Plug and play
etc etc. Personally I'm more traditional and would opt for a
more robust approach. This would include a more capable
dedicated device and it would mean a wired connection to the
router (if possible).
Unfortunately not all 12 months services are great. There are a
lot of sellers out there, that just buy from Resellers, with
absolutely no link to the server admins, so that means zero
advice when things go down. What's worse still is sellers buying
from resellers, then sell the lines on in a duplicating fashion
that are either shared, or otherwise compromised, or they simple
stop paying their supplier for their use - which just means for
the unfortunate end user, they're left with a blank screen.
What you must understand with all this is unlike Kodi, the
service is absolutely not free. If it is free, or unusually
cheap - there is an underlying reason for that & expect it to
simply stop working at any given moment. Server admins fight a
constant battle banning compromised or shared lines.
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Re: IPTV
By: Bookerman Date: June 23, 2019, 3:35 am
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I gave up with kodi years ago and went with a pay service. Every
time I went on kodi something had shutdown or stopped working or
been blocked through some means or another. Then messing with
vpn’s aswell.
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Re: IPTV
By: doc Date: June 23, 2019, 4:47 am
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[quote author=PartyBoy link=topic=122.msg2028#msg2028
date=1561277763]
It's an ongoing cat and mouse affair that has been going on for
a couple of decades, from the early days of sat card share -
ring..... and Euro voxx's on the cable side back in the days of
Telewest and NTL. Nagra3 encryption meant that side was over
pretty much so meant a mass exodus over to the sat side and the
newer decryptions cams that were coming available -
CCcam/oscam/mgcam etc etc
[/quote]
This is a part of my job now in being the cat , a lot of the
streams that come from virgin to these IPTV suppliers will
disappear soon . Tivo and V6 are not compromised
They have old compromised boxes that can have jtags attached and
fed into voxx's and then the hdmi output can be encoded into a
tv stream , taking it of the virgin box and you can see the
platform identifier ( little plectrum on bottom right of pic, I
put that on) and then we have the unique ID reference numbers
flashing up every 20 mins during games ( so they cant take the
output of a virgin box directly otherwise we can see exactly who
it is ) some have been stupid enough to do this .
Then just feed that into a media server like wowza and then feed
it into a CDN and it spreads ( this is where they are being
blocked ) so it doesn't really matter if you use a VPN or not ,
the big traffic drawers will easily get picked up as they can
see so many requests , it's the ones where you have 30-40 that
will go unnoticed , but when something is successful it draws
more subs and thats its downfall.
personally I would stay away from these services , clamp down is
too big , I would just boycott them.
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Re: IPTV
By: Dazzz Date: June 23, 2019, 12:18 pm
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The only thing i would want it for is the PPV ufc events and the
3pm football. Ive been offered a 1 month free trial.
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Re: IPTV
By: doc Date: June 24, 2019, 2:06 pm
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[quote author=Dazzz link=topic=122.msg2044#msg2044
date=1561310333]
The only thing i would want it for is the PPV ufc events and the
3pm football. Ive been offered a 1 month free trial.
[/quote]
youtube the day after works well for me !
I just wont be extorted to watch thse things
but i do have access to all of these streams for free, but i
still end up watching them on youtube as i cant be asred waiting
up till 5am
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Re: IPTV
By: PartyBoy Date: June 24, 2019, 2:38 pm
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^^^
This. I find the "build up" unbelievably tedious and cringy. No
way on earth would I ever wait up till the middle of the
night/early morning. Similarly for the Aussie grand prix. Hell,
I rarely even wait up for "seeing the new year in" these days.
I just make a point of not going online whatsoever and just
watch them the next morning
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Re: IPTV
By: Andy(Uncle_peter) Date: July 1, 2019, 8:17 am
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Family and friends rave about Kodi, but whenever I'm there the
picture isn't great and you can always be sure that they will be
searching another channel as the one we were watching has
crashed. I know it's cheap, but if you're paying for something
you want it to work. We're happy with Sky, plus the only sport
I really watch is motor sport, and what ever else is on
EuroSport.
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