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       #Post#: 2019--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boy kicked out of class for stating truth.. 
   DIR By: doc
       Date: June 22, 2019, 4:35 pm
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       --- Quote from: Teapot link ---
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       > I got divorced, the split was 80/20 in her favour, don't even
       get me started, it was my money and a short marriage (3.5years)
       I had to pay spousal maintenance upfront basically in order to
       get a clean break order, even though she works for nhs so job
       for life and pension, where as I was running a very new company
       which could have folded the week after. Divorce settlements are
       disgracefully biased towards women, I was told that by all the
       solicitors I had advice from, 1 of them a woman.
       >
       > Anyway, imo the west is so soft and wealthy, which is the
       reason that people have the time to even consider about
       identifying as something other than the male or female they were
       born into. In all honesty there is no way to sort this out
       except a war. I don't imagine there are too many Syrians or
       Iraqis or some African countries where the people are talking
       about gender as if it's a choice.
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       first solicitor I saw was a man hating woman ( but she may have
       been realistic) saw we had a total of 400k in assets  the fact i
       took my wife on with 2 kids , spent 20 years putting a roof over
       their heads clothing/feeding them etc , she said you'll be lucky
       to walk away with 10k, asked her was she taking the piss and
       wheres the 50/50 , consdiering my wife didnt do a days work
       50/50 morally would have been harsh , a free ride with 2 kids
       and then walks away with the lot .
       Asked the solicitor to justify it and she said I cant , don't
       get married ever " do you see a ring on my finger"
       I fired her off because she enjoyed telling me how bad it was
       going to be , but she was right.
       TP was yor spousal support in the 80/20 or attached after , i
       gave the house in order to get a clean break then they stuck
       spousal support on after that . If this was the other way around
       can you imagine the outcry ? but this has been normalised now.
       New bird wants to get wed , just never gona happen , all risk no
       reward . Cant see a single positive to repeat that.
       #Post#: 2020--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boy kicked out of class for stating truth.. 
   DIR By: kitty
       Date: June 22, 2019, 4:46 pm
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       I think a new thread needs to be started on divorce. Certainly
       not a nice situation for anyone involved and yes, no doubt more
       in favour of women as they're seen to be the ones to look after
       the kids as well as in the main the lower income earner so end
       up with more off the man, however, as I said, my own sister is
       going through exactly the same with her husband fleecing her!!
       If kids are involved clearly it's a hard situation.
       #Post#: 2022--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boy kicked out of class for stating truth.. 
   DIR By: kitty
       Date: June 22, 2019, 5:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: Newcy link ---
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       > The amount of kids that get labelled autistic or with adhd now
       is utterly staggering as well. When in reality they're parents
       are just awful.
       >
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       Not sure what this has to do with gender issues BUT in my day
       autism/ADHD was not "known" as it is today. We had kids in
       "remedial" classes, kids sent to schools for those with learning
       disabilities and those who clearly were not given any attention
       as they were seen to be the trouble makers, no labels, no
       concerns on the fact that they may have had a medical concern.
       The fact is we have developed into recognising issues in
       children now and by being able to "label" what the issues are,
       they can at least be dealt with appropriately.
       #Post#: 2025--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boy kicked out of class for stating truth.. 
   DIR By: Newcy
       Date: June 23, 2019, 2:07 am
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       Only real option surely doc is a prenup?
       #Post#: 2027--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boy kicked out of class for stating truth.. 
   DIR By: Newcy
       Date: June 23, 2019, 2:19 am
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       Its the pussification of society Kitty, it has now gone the
       other way extraordinarily quickly. I was at a kids party last
       week, a group of 9 year olds, out of 8, 2 were "autistic". One
       of the 2 was just left to do whatever the hell he wanted,
       including stamping and jumping on the wooden floor inches in
       front of my one year old nephew. Both parents were present, who
       spent half the time on their phones.
       #Post#: 2031--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boy kicked out of class for stating truth.. 
   DIR By: kitty
       Date: June 23, 2019, 4:20 am
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       --- Quote from: Newcy link ---
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       > Its the pussification of society Kitty, it has now gone the
       other way extraordinarily quickly. I was at a kids party last
       week, a group of 9 year olds, out of 8, 2 were "autistic". One
       of the 2 was just left to do whatever the hell he wanted,
       including stamping and jumping on the wooden floor inches in
       front of my one year old nephew. Both parents were present, who
       spent half the time on their phones.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       That just sounds like a kid who's after attention!! Maybe we
       need a ASDD (attention seeking deficit disorder)
       I have no doubt some people play on it but when you do have
       biological evidence, there is certainly something happening for
       some people. At the end of the day I could not give a monkeys
       who or what people wanted to be so long as they're decent and
       honest human beings who respect their fellow human beings for
       what they wanted to be in return!!
       #Post#: 2034--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Boy kicked out of class for stating truth.. 
   DIR By: doc
       Date: June 23, 2019, 4:50 am
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       --- Quote from: Newcy link ---
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       > Only real option surely doc is a prenup?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       They are pretty much nullified by marriage, they only hold any
       water in a common law partnership .  Lots of people have ended
       up in exactly the same boat as me even with a prenup in place.
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