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Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: racerguy00 Date: December 9, 2013, 1:40 pm
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Picked up this rifle on FunBroker earlier this year for a really
good price. It is a 4-digit serial number 1916 Remington, which
at some point was renumbered with a new serial. I've seen
similiar things done on both Balkan and Finn rifles. The new
serial has an F suffix, the rifle is partially scrubbed and
peened, and there are multiple "pinecone" stock stamps. There
are also shims between the mag housing and stock which seems to
be common on balkan m91s, and there is the peened in wedge
behind the rear sight spring, also a balkan trait. Numbers
matching except the bolt. The finish on this rifle is a match to
the 37 Tula 91/30 that I just acquired.
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Import stamp identifies it as Russian, many NEW and Remington
m91s are labeled USA
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Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: hashash Date: December 9, 2013, 1:43 pm
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I like it. Very interesting piece with some awesome history.
Eventually I'll grab a Remington or NEW, hopefully with as much
character and "cool factor" as yours.
Thanks for sharing!
#Post#: 3816--------------------------------------------------
Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: racerguy00 Date: December 9, 2013, 2:01 pm
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I learned something new researching this one. I noticed it had a
scrubbed eagle on the receiver and some earlier numbered ones
don't have the eagle. Joe Leiper answered that question for me.
From Mr. Leiper:
The earliest Remington rifles are marked ПК”
(Приемная
Комиссия or
Accepting Commission). It was changed to the familiar eagle over
'П' some time during 1916 production
The latest I've seen without the eagle is number 20xx and the
earliest with it is in the 5k range. Just another small
variation to look for, especially on recycled Remington
receivers. Helps pin down a receiver date if you have a Finn
built on one lacking the eagle.
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Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: hashash Date: December 9, 2013, 2:24 pm
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Very interesting. SO yours is a later numbered 1916 production?
#Post#: 3818--------------------------------------------------
Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: racerguy00 Date: December 9, 2013, 2:36 pm
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They seem to have produced around 70k rifles in 1916, this one
was just under the 10k point. Still early production but late
enough to have the Eagle stamp applied.
#Post#: 3819--------------------------------------------------
Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: hashash Date: December 9, 2013, 2:40 pm
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[quote author=racerguy00 link=topic=356.msg3818#msg3818
date=1386621386]
They seem to have produced around 70k rifles in 1916, this one
was just under the 10k point. Still early production but late
enough to have the Eagle stamp applied.
[/quote]
Ah, gotcha.
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Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: mat!_SW Date: December 9, 2013, 2:41 pm
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Cool. I was unaware of that. Nice rifle Dave!
#Post#: 3937--------------------------------------------------
Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: desdem12 Date: December 12, 2013, 10:17 pm
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Nice.
#Post#: 3938--------------------------------------------------
Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: clayshooter2 Date: December 13, 2013, 12:54 am
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I think that one can be nailed down to an early Bulgarian Mosin,
not just a Balkan Mosin. Yes, the Bulgarian pine cones are a
dead give away, but time period wise it lines up with the post
WW1 defacing of the Emperial eagles, and the Balkan sight wedge
is more associated with Bulgaria than it is other Balkan
countries. Yes, when it comes to the defaced eagles, Romania did
that too, but this one seems to line up with all Bulgarian
features as opposed to those rifles that have a mix of Serbian,
Romanian, and Bulgarian features.
Nice one Dave!
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Re: Early 1916 Remington, Balkan import.
By: clayshooter2 Date: December 13, 2013, 1:05 am
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Hashash, if you are real interested in American made Mosin
Nagant history pick up a copy of Allied Rifle Contracts in
America. It is a fantastic book. It not only covers Mosins, but
all the WW1 rifle and small arms contracts made with American
manufactures during WW1. It is an awsome resource book, well
worth buying.
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