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#Post#: 1977--------------------------------------------------
Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: mat!_SW Date: October 15, 2013, 2:41 pm
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Bought this of brokegunner. Its a 37 Izhevesk mixmaster with
wire hangers, an unpinned rear sight, no import marks, a stock
that I kind of like, steel ends on the hand guard, and mostly
Izhevsk parts so far as I've found. I've only had it home a few
minutes. Its got really thick grease on it that is definitely
not cosmoline. I won it for 140 + 25 dollars shipped. So at
165 I don't feel too bad for a non import marked rifle.
#Post#: 1978--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: mat!_SW Date: October 15, 2013, 2:45 pm
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More pics. There are remnants of stock cartouches, the magazine
looks like it was in a different rifle for a long time, and the
trigger looks kind of short. it actually has a nice trigger for
a Mosin
#Post#: 1979--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: mat!_SW Date: October 15, 2013, 2:48 pm
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There is a stamp on the cleaning rod that I just can't seem to
capture in todays light, But I'll attempt some more
#Post#: 1982--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: racerguy00 Date: October 15, 2013, 5:35 pm
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I like it! I had to do a doubletake, I sold one just like that
not long ago on armslist. Not the same one. ;D
Sure looks like SCW to me.
#Post#: 1986--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: mat!_SW Date: October 15, 2013, 9:19 pm
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SCW was my gut too, but Lancebear and lthilsdorf's website have
mentioned the steel caps on the hand guard make this unlikely.
I'm not 100% sure I really subscribe to this theory, and can't
recall ever seeing a mention to when steel hand guard ends were
put into place on 7.62x54r.net or mosinnagant.net which is where
I learned most of what I know about SCW Mosins, along with
reading "Arms For Spain" which I highly recommend btw. For the
time being it is a lot easier to say I don't know what it is
than rule it SCW for certain. Its a cool rifle in my book
anyhow.
#Post#: 1987--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: racerguy00 Date: October 15, 2013, 9:46 pm
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One thing I've run across is that so many SCW 91/30s have
cracked handguards. I believe the steel caps are WW2, but I've
seen a USSR marked 91/30 with steel end caps. The owner told me
he had replaced the cracked handguard with another with a close
match finish-wise. So, steel end caps don't mean an automatic
SCW disqualification to me.
#Post#: 1988--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: mat!_SW Date: October 15, 2013, 9:49 pm
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Also its pretty clear that the hand guard and rest of the stock
have been together a long time. The color, patina, and all that
jazz match each other well. I'll have to really dig in and find
out about the steel ends for certain.
#Post#: 1990--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: mat!_SW Date: October 15, 2013, 9:53 pm
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I agree racerguy....it very well could be a stateside addition.
Another thing is that there are so many Mosins that are outside
the norm that there really is no norm. Lol. I like the rifle
and in my collection it shall stay.
#Post#: 1994--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: racerguy00 Date: October 15, 2013, 10:01 pm
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Has there ever been info dug up on the "dice mark" beyond a
possible hardness test or something? I recently saw a 1918
Remington with it. Is it still a possible SCW trait?
#Post#: 2009--------------------------------------------------
Re: Can't say for sure so lets call this a non-refurb/mixmaster
By: mat!_SW Date: October 16, 2013, 1:07 am
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Back in the day Ted swore up and down its a hardness test. He
would never site his source though. lthilsdorf lists the dice
as a possible, but I don't like to use it as a definite.
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