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       #Post#: 1578--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: derrty 30 Date: January 19, 2015, 2:24 pm
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       fuck yeah, that is pretty awesome.. if i ever get a e46, ill
       have to do this aswell.
       #Post#: 1592--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: Cavi Mike Date: January 22, 2015, 12:11 pm
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       To get my car a little lower I switched to some TCKline springs
       in the rear - but they're only 500#. The car feels very wallowy
       when I'm on the throttle going over uneven surfaces so I'm gonna
       go for some 600 or 650's. I've read that Eibach makes the most
       consistent springs in rate and length and their Elite Series
  HTML http://eibach.com/america/en/eibach-news/elite-series-es
       springs
       are barrel-shaped so they work well in the rear of a BMW. Fairly
       cheap as well - TCKline are $97ea, the Eibachs are only $76 @
       SummitRacing
  HTML http://www.summitracing.com/parts/eib-es0600250065/overview/.<br
       />Maybe order those next week.
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       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: joemakesdrifts Date: January 23, 2015, 10:25 pm
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       Why not just a set of bc coilovers?
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       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: Cavi Mike Date: January 24, 2015, 3:11 pm
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       [quote author=joemakesdrifts link=topic=84.msg1602#msg1602
       date=1422073542]
       Why not just a set of bc coilovers?
       [/quote]
       BMW's don't have coilovers in the back, the springs and shocks
       are separate, so there's no point. Also I don't have any idea
       where BC sources their springs but I guarantee they're not as
       quality as Eibach considering Eibach Elite and Platinum are used
       in professional race cars. And lastly - I have no idea what size
       and rate they are - so when I find I don't like the rates, how
       do I know what springs to buy to replace them? Call BC and order
       some more mystery springs?
       So why waste my money on BC? I'm well past the phase of thinking
       coilovers are "matched" or some other malarkey. Every driver has
       their own way of setting up their car the way they feel most
       comfortable. No off-the-shelf set of coilovers is going to be
       able to do that.
       Before you bring up that Chelsea DeNofa uses BC, let me remind
       you that BC is a major sponsor of him. When was the last time
       you saw a suspension manufacturer as the major sponsor of a real
       race car? You don't. FD is just so small of a series that there
       aren't any real sponsors there yet. When McDonald's and Dewalt
       are on the side of an FD car, you'll see real suspension
       companies like Eibach, Koni, Bilstein, etc as sponsors and
       they'll be MINOR sponsors even though those are the top players
       in the world. BC Racing prolly won't even be around when FD
       reaches that level.
       #Post#: 1606--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: derrty 30 Date: January 25, 2015, 12:44 pm
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       Just so you know, Chelsea's family owns bc racing, which is why
       they are a major sponsor of his loll,and they use swift springs.
       If you called up bc they would recommend a spring setup for your
       car. Chelsea is the manager at bc also. So you might be able to
       just talk to him, if you called.
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       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: Cavi Mike Date: January 25, 2015, 3:39 pm
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       I thought it was his company but wasn't 100% positive. But that
       doesn't get me interested, it's actually a deterrent. Their
       company has no history. I'm not spending Bilstein money for
       that.
       #Post#: 1608--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: audioscience10 Date: January 25, 2015, 7:44 pm
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       I personally like BC. That's what I plan on running (right now
       i'm set up on knockoffs.) I like the design that lets you raise
       or lower the car without effecting the amount of travel you
       have. I know more and more companies are making this design
       these days. I would say don't hate on them, who better to design
       a quality product than the guy actually using it...
       #Post#: 1609--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: Cavi Mike Date: January 25, 2015, 7:57 pm
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       You just implied that Bilstein/Koni/Eibach/etc doesn't use any
       of their own product.
       #Post#: 1610--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: audioscience10 Date: January 25, 2015, 8:14 pm
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       [quote author=Cavi Mike link=topic=84.msg1609#msg1609
       date=1422237427]
       You just implied that Bilstein/Koni/Eibach/etc doesn't use any
       of their own product.
       [/quote]
       Well you implied that Chelsea using his own product was a
       negative. I'm sure they do but none of them offer the coilover
       design I like. And you can't buy them as a package. Bc stuff is
       designed as a package.
       #Post#: 1613--------------------------------------------------
       Re: I can taste the tears of a thousand BMW owners...
       By: Cavi Mike Date: January 26, 2015, 2:45 pm
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       Bilstein PSS, PSS9 and PSS10 are all the same price as the BC
       Racing stuff(about $1k for PSS to around $2k for PSS10) And that
       doesn't make sense to me. While Chelsea may be a "professional"
       drifter, the reality is he's an amateur race car driver, and I
       didn't realize BC Racing was so new to the market until I
       started looking them up. I can't justify those costs. Bilstein
       supplies real race cars.
  HTML http://www.formula1-dictionary.net/f1_suppliers.html
       Another thing that bothers me about coilovers in general for our
       cars is why I'm spending the same amount of money for half the
       product. Our cars don't have coilovers in the back. All we get
       are a pair of shocks, springs and adjusters. There's no pre-load
       adjustment, you don't have the nice threaded steel shock bodies,
       it's just standard off-the shelf stuff. So why am I still paying
       the same amount? Now coming from Bilstein - it's a
       world-renowned company that supplies the likes of F1 - if you
       want the best, you're gonna fckin pay for it. But BC Racing? Why
       the price-gouging? To "support" someone else's dreams? What
       about my dreams? Now I feel I'm being played the fool.
       The more I look into BC, the more I realize I'll prolly never
       buy anything from them.
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