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#Post#: 208--------------------------------------------------
A admin player possibly in Otomo Army?
By: Jaio_shu Date: July 22, 2018, 4:36 pm
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While going thru all the known folks in Otomo and Yamana armies
I found this:
HTML https://en.shogunkingdoms.com/FichePersonnage.php?login=Jiyuu
If you look at their trophy page it is blank. The 'hide' option
removes the tab completely, sample of my profile with hidden
tab:
HTML https://en.shogunkingdoms.com/FichePersonnage.php?login=jiao_shu
If you look at a newborn trophy page, it shows "Number of
trophies owned: 0 / 159".
Now, take a look at these admin profiles:
HTML https://en.shogunkingdoms.com/FichePersonnage.php?login=Darthh
HTML https://en.shogunkingdoms.com/FichePersonnage.php?login=Brennos
HTML https://en.shogunkingdoms.com/FichePersonnage.php?login=Jdw
HTML https://en.shogunkingdoms.com/FichePersonnage.php?login=Alahw
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Re: A admin player possibly in Otomo Army?
By: Tsuru Date: July 23, 2018, 4:38 am
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Hmm yes it seems likely. Good spot.
Now we know why Uchi are the only province I know of in any
world to be punished for breaking the rules on treasuries...
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Re: A admin player possibly in Otomo Army?
By: Nobuku Date: July 23, 2018, 7:50 pm
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We can always bring it to the attention of the other admins. It
is possible this one is cheating without their knowledge. Of
course, they have already admitted they don't care about SK, so
it may be a moot point. And yes, Tsuru, it would explain why
only Uchi has ever been punished for breaking the rules.
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Re: A admin player possibly in Otomo Army?
By: Ninjai Date: July 25, 2018, 11:09 pm
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Hello everyone, I did think it was common knowledge that the
admins played in Otomo and there was never any attempt to hide
it. Nagareboshi told me many times that she felt Uchi was
disadvantaged because of this. She may have been correct on that
issue.
[quote author=Tsuru link=topic=22.msg211#msg211 date=1532338711]
Hmm yes it seems likely. Good spot.
Now we know why Uchi are the only province I know of in any
world to be punished for breaking the rules on treasuries...
[/quote]
We should remember that Uchi was not punished for trying to hide
the treasury, but rather for hiding the treasury using clones.
The quote that Brennos posted the forum stated this:
[quote]Multicounts have been used by some members of Uchi's
previous council to loot the said county.
Pillage one can.
With mutual funds ... obviously not.
Consequences :
Eradication of the Count and the Bailiff, as well as their
multicompets.
A dozen eradication, before which I took the kobans and items
from these accounts to put in the inventory of Uchi.
[/quote]
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Re: A admin player possibly in Otomo Army?
By: Tsuru Date: July 26, 2018, 3:27 am
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That's only partially correct Ninjai, and was the interpretation
Beijita and other Otomo players took, because it suits them to
focus on that aspect..
Clones were deleted.
The rest of the council, those who weren't using clones, were
threatened with eradication in their entirety if they did not
return the funds and goods they'd taken for safe-keeping. That's
why so many people (including some in Otomo) quit over this, not
because clones were eradicated. So far as I know, Uchi is the
only province in any world where this rule has been enforced.
And it stands in stark comparison to Hatakeyama, where clones
were deleted *while holding* the provinces goods and money,
which is now irretrievably lost.
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Re: A admin player possibly in Otomo Army?
By: Ninjai Date: July 26, 2018, 11:27 am
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Thank you for that clarification, Tsuru. I do understand now,
because the post was translated and it was difficult for me to
understand all the subtleties of the message. I have been
talking to some of my old Uchi friends and am getting updated on
all the events that happened prior to my return to this world. I
had not understood about the demands placed on legitimate
players. This news is indeed disheartening.
#Post#: 267--------------------------------------------------
Re: A admin player possibly in Otomo Army?
By: Jaio_shu Date: July 26, 2018, 4:24 pm
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Ninjai, I have some records of the OOC conversations if you
would like a copy, let me know. From what I understood, not all
eradications were due to multi accounts but issues with some
shared accounts as well. Some one with Uchi mentioned they were
very well aware of 'burnings' so was very careful on who had
control of the money.
Here is my fav from Brennos:
"If unexpectedly the items and the last pounds (koban, we are
not on RK) do not return quickly to the chests of pounds, then I
will resume the investigation and eradicate all the former
councilors, their supporters, their friends, their goldfish etc.
you get the picture?"
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Re: A admin player possibly in Otomo Army?
By: Tsuru Date: July 26, 2018, 6:50 pm
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Lol yeah, that was mine too.
Sadly this seems to be the preferred method for Celsius now. In
RK with the new account verification system we were told 99% of
existing players would never need to verify. That lasted a few
months until Brennos decided that requiring everyone in a
province to verify their account, by supplying phone numbers or
through token purchases, was easier than him actually looking
and finding who was cloning there. Several countries and many
old players woke up to find their accounts needed verifying
because *other people* had been cloning. Without verifying they
couldn't take any action and their characters either died or
were put into retreat after 2 weeks with no ability to escape.
Predictably people quit and many felt they'd been lied to. So
yeah, now blanket punishment seems to be what Celsius favour.
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