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#Post#: 749--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Angela Fore Date: April 3, 2018, 12:00 pm
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Susan, have you ever tried Scratch and Peck?
www.scratchandpeck.com You can buy it in the 40lb bag from
Azure Standard if you join one of the Azure Food Drop Groups.
Starter for 8 weeks and then switch to Grower until they start
laying. After that I switch them to the grain mix from SEFS and
a combo of Tucker Milling Super Lay. I think there is an Azure
drop in either Moss Point or Ocean Springs.
#Post#: 750--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: April 3, 2018, 5:43 pm
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[quote author=Angela Fore link=topic=182.msg749#msg749
date=1522774816]
Susan, have you ever tried Scratch and Peck?
www.scratchandpeck.com You can buy it in the 40lb bag from
Azure Standard if you join one of the Azure Food Drop Groups.
Starter for 8 weeks and then switch to Grower until they start
laying. After that I switch them to the grain mix from SEFS and
a combo of Tucker Milling Super Lay. I think there is an Azure
drop in either Moss Point or Ocean Springs.
[/quote]
Angela, Wow ... that's a lot of information. I've never heard
of Azure, but am definitely interested! I looked them up and
there is a drop location in Gautier. How does it work? Do I
order through their website and it is delivered at the drop site
? The thing I don't understand about the "drop" is, so far...
everything I have looked at on their site is "free shipping".
In the comments about the chick starter feed, people talk about
fermenting it. Exactly how would one go about doing that? Is
the Tucker Milling Super Lay at SEFS? I'd like to try that for
my current chickadees. Do you use any of their other products,
like the herbs? They have a chick starter kit that looks pretty
interesting. I don't know how much starter feed I'll need,
especially since I don't know how many eggs will hatch. Looks
like next delivery is April 10. You are a wealth of knowledge!
Thank you, so much!
#Post#: 751--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Angela Fore Date: April 4, 2018, 10:07 am
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[size=12ptSorry it took me a while to get back with you but I
had to contact our Azure drop Coordinator here in Mobile to get
the name of the FB page and drop number etc for the Ocean
Springs drop. So here is how it works... Go to the "Azure
Drop, Ocean Springs, MS Drop#D797789" FB Group. It is a closed
group so they will have to approve you. All of the group info
will be posted there. Now go to Azure Standard website and set
up an account with them using the Drop# 797789 as the drop
number. Order whatever you want and pay for it yourself on the
Azure website (there is a 50.00 minimum) and provided the Ocean
Springs drop has a 2000.00 minimum order your order will be
delivered at the next drop. I belong to the Mobile Group. Our
FB name is Tillman's Corner Food Co-op, if you would like to
join our group as well. I know Mobile might be a little far to
drive but hey you come for club meetings!! ;D I am not a
member of the Ocean Springs group so I do not know what all they
offer but our group is an active group. Our DC (Drop
Coordinator) Jack Upton, makes and sells terrific Kombucha,
breads and tallow balms. I order his Black Cherry Kombucha
every month. So crazy good... We also have Dr. Nettles Teas,
Mountain Rose Herbs and we also order from Frontier/Food Club
too. We also have a meat and produce vendor
www.sweetgrasspastures.com You can go to their website and sign
up for their buying club and pick our drop (I am guessing they
do drops in MS as they are located in Lucedale) and have their
items waiting for you at the Azure drop as well. The cutoff to
get your order in to Azure for this month's drop is 4-10 at 6PM.
The drop will be the following Wednesday on April 19th. Our
delivery happens at 11:30 AM, but I think the Ocean Springs drop
is just before ours as the Ocean Springs DC always texts our DC
when the Azure driver is leaving their drop. ]
Now to the Scratch and Peck questions. I ordered the little
starter kit the first time I had chicks, and I followed their
protocol with all of my chicks except I put Nutri drench in
their water for the first 6 weeks, then I put them on the ACV
water. The last batch of chicks I had was 8 and I bought 1 40 lb
bag of S&P starter (38.00) and it lasted me a while. I think I
had to buy one more bag around 6 weeks but when I switched them
to Grower at 8 weeks I just mixed the Starter in to help them
with the transition. I have never fermented the S&P chick
starter but I have the grower feed. My chickens were not crazy
about it because the fish meal is super stinky when you ferment
it...yes my girls are picky. They won't even eat tomato worms!
However, if you start giving them fermented feed while they are
chicks I am guessing they would learn to love it early on! I
ferment a whole a grain mix for my girls in the summer that they
LOVE! It is a good way to get extra water in them to deal with
the heat. If you want the info on that I will be happy to send
it to you. I get my grain for that from Azure too. [/size]
As for the Tucker Milling, yes I buy that at St Elmo Feed and
Seed. They also have it at Phillip's Feed. The reason I
switched to the Tucker Milling is because of something that Dr.
Bob Hess (Auburn Poultry Science Professor) said in a lecture I
attended last year. He said that when you feed whole grain
layer feeds (he didn't say S&P but I am guessing that is what he
meant) the fish meal falls to the bottom in the "fines" and most
of the time, the adult birds are not getting enough protein
because they are not eating the fines. Then he went on to say
that LF (Large Fowl) free range birds (which my girls all, they
are all English type Orpingtons so they are BIG) need 20-22%
protein because of their increased activity level. So, I
remember my "chicken guru" Cynthia Bacon telling me that she has
used Tucker Milling for years. She took a tour of their plant
and was super impressed with the care and quality that goes into
their feeds. She has had chickens forever and is the most
knowledgeable person I have come across in this backyard chicken
keeping world so I decided to make the jump to the TM Super Lay
22 mixed with the Southern Feeds 18% Ultra Scratch. Honestly,
the egg quality is identical to when they were eating S&P.
I love sharing what I have learned with you sweet friend. I
think we are like minded in how we want to care for our flock so
anything I have learned along the way I am happy to share.
#Post#: 752--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: April 4, 2018, 1:25 pm
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[quote author=Angela Fore link=topic=182.msg751#msg751
date=1522854445]
[size=12ptSorry it took me a while to get back with you but I
had to contact our Azure drop Coordinator here in Mobile to get
the name of the FB page and drop number etc for the Ocean
Springs drop. So here is how it works... Go to the "Azure
Drop, Ocean Springs, MS Drop#D797789" FB Group. It is a closed
group so they will have to approve you. All of the group info
will be posted there. Now go to Azure Standard website and set
up an account with them using the Drop# 797789 as the drop
number. Order whatever you want and pay for it yourself on the
Azure website (there is a 50.00 minimum) and provided the Ocean
Springs drop has a 2000.00 minimum order your order will be
delivered at the next drop. I belong to the Mobile Group. Our
FB name is Tillman's Corner Food Co-op, if you would like to
join our group as well. I know Mobile might be a little far to
drive but hey you come for club meetings!! ;D I am not a
member of the Ocean Springs group so I do not know what all they
offer but our group is an active group. Our DC (Drop
Coordinator) Jack Upton, makes and sells terrific Kombucha,
breads and tallow balms. I order his Black Cherry Kombucha
every month. So crazy good... We also have Dr. Nettles Teas,
Mountain Rose Herbs and we also order from Frontier/Food Club
too. We also have a meat and produce vendor
www.sweetgrasspastures.com You can go to their website and sign
up for their buying club and pick our drop (I am guessing they
do drops in MS as they are located in Lucedale) and have their
items waiting for you at the Azure drop as well. The cutoff to
get your order in to Azure for this month's drop is 4-10 at 6PM.
The drop will be the following Wednesday on April 19th. Our
delivery happens at 11:30 AM, but I think the Ocean Springs drop
is just before ours as the Ocean Springs DC always texts our DC
when the Azure driver is leaving their drop. ]
Now to the Scratch and Peck questions. I ordered the little
starter kit the first time I had chicks, and I followed their
protocol with all of my chicks except I put Nutri drench in
their water for the first 6 weeks, then I put them on the ACV
water. The last batch of chicks I had was 8 and I bought 1 40 lb
bag of S&P starter (38.00) and it lasted me a while. I think I
had to buy one more bag around 6 weeks but when I switched them
to Grower at 8 weeks I just mixed the Starter in to help them
with the transition. I have never fermented the S&P chick
starter but I have the grower feed. My chickens were not crazy
about it because the fish meal is super stinky when you ferment
it...yes my girls are picky. They won't even eat tomato worms!
However, if you start giving them fermented feed while they are
chicks I am guessing they would learn to love it early on! I
ferment a whole a grain mix for my girls in the summer that they
LOVE! It is a good way to get extra water in them to deal with
the heat. If you want the info on that I will be happy to send
it to you. I get my grain for that from Azure too. [/size]
As for the Tucker Milling, yes I buy that at St Elmo Feed and
Seed. They also have it at Phillip's Feed. The reason I
switched to the Tucker Milling is because of something that Dr.
Bob Hess (Auburn Poultry Science Professor) said in a lecture I
attended last year. He said that when you feed whole grain
layer feeds (he didn't say S&P but I am guessing that is what he
meant) the fish meal falls to the bottom in the "fines" and most
of the time, the adult birds are not getting enough protein
because they are not eating the fines. Then he went on to say
that LF (Large Fowl) free range birds (which my girls all, they
are all English type Orpingtons so they are BIG) need 20-22%
protein because of their increased activity level. So, I
remember my "chicken guru" Cynthia Bacon telling me that she has
used Tucker Milling for years. She took a tour of their plant
and was super impressed with the care and quality that goes into
their feeds. She has had chickens forever and is the most
knowledgeable person I have come across in this backyard chicken
keeping world so I decided to make the jump to the TM Super Lay
22 mixed with the Southern Feeds 18% Ultra Scratch. Honestly,
the egg quality is identical to when they were eating S&P.
I love sharing what I have learned with you sweet friend. I
think we are like minded in how we want to care for our flock so
anything I have learned along the way I am happy to share.
[/quote]
I talked to the Azure rep in OS. Super nice and lives only 8
miles from us. I'm still navigating the Azure site. WOW lots
to see. Yes, I am interested in the grain fermentation. I
didn't realize it only means soaking in water! DUH. I can
handle that. What grains do you use? My girls are very picky
eaters too. They won't eat tomatoes! What they leave, I just
throw in the compost or feed to the worms. I'm working on
placing my order. I'll have to share this web site with
friends! Thank you so much. I guess I am moving to the next
level. It's a lot to absorb in the beginning.
#Post#: 753--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Angela Fore Date: April 4, 2018, 2:36 pm
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[quote author=Susan Austin Coulange link=topic=182.msg752#msg752
date=1522866302]
[quote author=Angela Fore link=topic=182.msg751#msg751
date=1522854445]
[size=12ptSorry it took me a while to get back with you but I
had to contact our Azure drop Coordinator here in Mobile to get
the name of the FB page and drop number etc for the Ocean
Springs drop. So here is how it works... Go to the "Azure
Drop, Ocean Springs, MS Drop#D797789" FB Group. It is a closed
group so they will have to approve you. All of the group info
will be posted there. Now go to Azure Standard website and set
up an account with them using the Drop# 797789 as the drop
number. Order whatever you want and pay for it yourself on the
Azure website (there is a 50.00 minimum) and provided the Ocean
Springs drop has a 2000.00 minimum order your order will be
delivered at the next drop. I belong to the Mobile Group. Our
FB name is Tillman's Corner Food Co-op, if you would like to
join our group as well. I know Mobile might be a little far to
drive but hey you come for club meetings!! ;D I am not a
member of the Ocean Springs group so I do not know what all they
offer but our group is an active group. Our DC (Drop
Coordinator) Jack Upton, makes and sells terrific Kombucha,
breads and tallow balms. I order his Black Cherry Kombucha
every month. So crazy good... We also have Dr. Nettles Teas,
Mountain Rose Herbs and we also order from Frontier/Food Club
too. We also have a meat and produce vendor
www.sweetgrasspastures.com You can go to their website and sign
up for their buying club and pick our drop (I am guessing they
do drops in MS as they are located in Lucedale) and have their
items waiting for you at the Azure drop as well. The cutoff to
get your order in to Azure for this month's drop is 4-10 at 6PM.
The drop will be the following Wednesday on April 19th. Our
delivery happens at 11:30 AM, but I think the Ocean Springs drop
is just before ours as the Ocean Springs DC always texts our DC
when the Azure driver is leaving their drop. ]
Now to the Scratch and Peck questions. I ordered the little
starter kit the first time I had chicks, and I followed their
protocol with all of my chicks except I put Nutri drench in
their water for the first 6 weeks, then I put them on the ACV
water. The last batch of chicks I had was 8 and I bought 1 40 lb
bag of S&P starter (38.00) and it lasted me a while. I think I
had to buy one more bag around 6 weeks but when I switched them
to Grower at 8 weeks I just mixed the Starter in to help them
with the transition. I have never fermented the S&P chick
starter but I have the grower feed. My chickens were not crazy
about it because the fish meal is super stinky when you ferment
it...yes my girls are picky. They won't even eat tomato worms!
However, if you start giving them fermented feed while they are
chicks I am guessing they would learn to love it early on! I
ferment a whole a grain mix for my girls in the summer that they
LOVE! It is a good way to get extra water in them to deal with
the heat. If you want the info on that I will be happy to send
it to you. I get my grain for that from Azure too. [/size]
As for the Tucker Milling, yes I buy that at St Elmo Feed and
Seed. They also have it at Phillip's Feed. The reason I
switched to the Tucker Milling is because of something that Dr.
Bob Hess (Auburn Poultry Science Professor) said in a lecture I
attended last year. He said that when you feed whole grain
layer feeds (he didn't say S&P but I am guessing that is what he
meant) the fish meal falls to the bottom in the "fines" and most
of the time, the adult birds are not getting enough protein
because they are not eating the fines. Then he went on to say
that LF (Large Fowl) free range birds (which my girls all, they
are all English type Orpingtons so they are BIG) need 20-22%
protein because of their increased activity level. So, I
remember my "chicken guru" Cynthia Bacon telling me that she has
used Tucker Milling for years. She took a tour of their plant
and was super impressed with the care and quality that goes into
their feeds. She has had chickens forever and is the most
knowledgeable person I have come across in this backyard chicken
keeping world so I decided to make the jump to the TM Super Lay
22 mixed with the Southern Feeds 18% Ultra Scratch. Honestly,
the egg quality is identical to when they were eating S&P.
I love sharing what I have learned with you sweet friend. I
think we are like minded in how we want to care for our flock so
anything I have learned along the way I am happy to share.
[/quote]
I talked to the Azure rep in OS. Super nice and lives only 8
miles from us. I'm still navigating the Azure site. WOW lots
to see. Yes, I am interested in the grain fermentation. I
didn't realize it only means soaking in water! DUH. I can
handle that. What grains do you use? My girls are very picky
eaters too. They won't eat tomatoes! What they leave, I just
throw in the compost or feed to the worms. I'm working on
placing my order. I'll have to share this web site with
friends! Thank you so much. I guess I am moving to the next
level. It's a lot to absorb in the beginning.
[/quote]It can be overwhelming can't it? That Azure site is like
the Stromberg Chickens website. :) The grain recipe I use is one
from the Garden Betty website. I am on my phone right now, but
when I get back home I will post the link. Her website has a lot
of good info on natural chicken keeping like Fresh Eggs Daily.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G935A using Tapatalk
#Post#: 754--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Susan Austin Coulange Date: April 4, 2018, 8:31 pm
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Hi Angela, Thank you, thank you. I went to Garden Betty's web
site and got the recipe... plus a couple of her canning recipes!
Now I have to check out the other site you mentioned: Fresh
Eggs Daily. I got my order in at Azure. This is all new stuff
to me. I've just been winging it....up to this point.
#Post#: 755--------------------------------------------------
Re: Feeding proper feed
By: Angela Fore Date: April 4, 2018, 8:42 pm
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Great!! I had it pulled up on my computer but never posted,
sorry. Garden Betty's instructions for fermenting work really
well too. I have tried it a couple of different ways but hers
works the best for me. Fresh Eggs Daily is an amazing resource
for natural chicken keeping. Lisa Steele is such a nice person
too. Like you. ;)
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