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Re: Paramaailmas toimuvad uudised, arvamused ja infokillud
By: Olemuslik Date: November 7, 2023, 6:30 am
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Viimase 20ne aasta jooksul Youtube on valgustanud inimesi
juutide-moslemite konfliktis ja muus, ilma Youtubeta oleks
ainult 7 minutit aktuaalse Kaamera juttu.
Nüüd aga on lõpmatute tundide jagu infot lõpmatult paljudelt ja
see ei anna enam võimalust huvilisele jääda ignorantseks
arvamuseta võhikuks.
Seetõttu kõigil peaks olema arvamus kõige kohta tänapäeval, või,
kahtlemata maailma esipoliit uudiste teemal, nagu sõjad.
Delfi kommentaarides on Gaza kohta mingid arvamsued olemas,
kommenteerime neid järgnevalt.
Moslemite poolne põhiarvamus aastakümneid on, et Gaza piirkond
kuulub ajalooliselt moslemitele, mitte iisraelile. Selline
põhiseisukoht paneb moslemeid õigustama Palestiina terrorismi,
ja nimetab Iisraeli terroriseerivaks võõrvõimuks. Sageli tekib
elus nõte, et soovitada järeleanda, näiteks anda ära Krimm,
Gaza, Setumaa jms konflikti piirkond, et saabuks rahu. Paraku
selline naiivne mõte ei toimiks, ja tõestuseks on juba dualism
ise- kahe osakese vahel on ja tekib alati konflikte. Seetõttu
jätkuvad Gaza probleemid kahtlemata olenemata lahendustest, olgu
need kuitahes naiivse loomuga. Raske öelda, kas isiraeli
brutaalne vastureaktsioon oli halb või hea pikemas
perspektiivis. Vahel elus on efektiivne brutaalne käitumine.
Võibolla isiraeli brutaalne vastureaktsioon paneb islamiriike
nüüdsest hoiduma rakettidega palestiinlaste varustamisest.
Võib-olla mitte, aeg näitab.
Kui jätta uudistes räägitu kõrvale, ja olla ise mõtleja, märkaja
ja looja, siis on ikkagi palju teemasid sõdade puhul tänapäeval.
Näiteks, et kuidas ei olda suutelised kindlaks tegema, mis
riigist raketid on toodetud, kas Põhja koreas või Iraanis vms.
Seda ei ole keeruline tuvastada tänapäeva teaduse juures. Paraku
seda ei tehta, ning kui kunagi tehtakski, siis ei lubataks
avalikult ajakirjanduses seda infot avaldada.
#Post#: 135--------------------------------------------------
Re: Paramaailmas toimuvad uudised, arvamused ja infokillud
By: Olemuslik Date: August 25, 2024, 3:46 am
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Arutleme?
[quote]
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN4PxWNihm8
@marcelbuurman201
18 tunni eest
This guy at 1:20 is mindblowing. Russia has been targetting
civilians in Ukraine for over 2 years, and has killed thousands
and thousands of civilians. And now he complains a few civilians
in Russia loose their lives. Sad, but only Putin and Russia are
to blame for all the misery they started.
1,8 tuh
@mitseraffej5812
17 tunni eest
Yes this shows an outstanding level of either ignorance or
arrogance. Maybe both.
189
@totokingkong1
17 tunni eest
and the fact that he is wearing an american cap sickens me
154
@ramtron1775
17 tunni eest
But the summer house bro.
107
@Kerttis
17 tunni eest
"maybe im young and foolish"
he wasnt lying
115
@dorrisday1518
17 tunni eest
Arrest him and throw him in jail, he has a New York hat on!!
Sympathizer lol
39
@VitalityMassage
17 tunni eest
They're in for a very rude awakening in Ruzzia.
44
@bobsenkler3131
17 tunni eest
А ты был в
Киеве??? Ты
видел как
скакали и
орали?? Или
это
ненаказуе&
#1084;о???
Странная
логика.
5
@GabrielPettier
17 tunni eest
Probably totally misinformed, he won't understand why he's dying
for when he'll be sent to the front, i hope he'll understand he
was fooled, and surrender if he has the opportunity, but many
won't be this lucky.
21
@normanboyes4983
17 tunni eest
It shows what happens when the State takes over your mind.
20
@TesterAnimal1
16 tunni eest
@bobsenkler3131 what? What do you even MEAN?
10
@Bartetmedia
16 tunni eest
you took the words right out of my mouth
2
@marinadovnich4663
16 tunni eest
​ @bobsenkler3131 ти був
в Києві? ти
бачив це
на власні
очі?
6
@squezary
16 tunni eest
​ @mitseraffej5812 propaganda is unfortunately often an
extremely effective tool for narrative control
5
@Fafa_86
16 tunni eest
​@mitseraffej5812 Or it shows how effective the Russian
propaganda machine is.
10
@RCmies
16 tunni eest
Well he probably watches state media. The information we have
available is way different than the information they have
available. But yes, it's still quite amusing to listen to these
people.
3
@user-ju5ly3du2d
16 tunni eest
Надеюсь вы
так же
осуждаете
Израиль
совершающ&
#1080;й
геноцид
палестинц&
#1077;в
и
оккупацию
Сирии и
Палестины
на
протяжени&
#1080;
более 70 лет…
2
@candykane4271
16 tunni eest
No! 6:10 is mind blowing
@Silver3ides
16 tunni eest
He's gone through the Russian system and can see no wrong .
4
@teyspoli-psychonaut3191
16 tunni eest
10 years*
@noname-ji4ts
16 tunni eest
​ @sherry8444 Come on, stop it! The old Donbass fairy
tale..
4
@noname-ji4ts
16 tunni eest
​ @user-ju5ly3du2d When the Kremlin bot runs out of ideas
or arguments, it starts with the completely different case of
Israel..
14
@ColinAnderson-hy2oj
16 tunni eest
His hat is interesting!
4
@semprefidelis76
16 tunni eest
@sherry8444 There were no problems in Donbas (by the way, it
is part of Ukraine. Same like Kursk is part of Russia) until
2014, when Ukrainians started orange revolution and chose to be
out of control of Russia. President of Ukraine, Yanukovich,
escaped to Russia, his boss. Because Ukraine chose to be part
of Europe and West and they have every right to do so, same like
Poland! Because of this, Putin sent military to Donbas.
Everyone knows this. You guys even shot a passenger airline
belongs to Malaysia and killed 300+ people, thinking it is CIA
airplane. You guys have a HUGE propaganda going on, so chances
are you still believe there are na.zis in Ukraine! LOL.
15
@charles_king
16 tunni eest
You have zero clue about the russian media environment
@GnosticAtheist
16 tunni eest
Be aware that some of these people do not actually know what
Russia has done. In addition, this guy is basically a kid, so
its just a mindwiped person. Older people who are against the
war will talk about non-issues instead (I am depressed and my
cat has aids in her cancer so I dont want to talk about it) to
avoid being jailed, with the occasional "I dont care anymore"
people who just says the truth.
4
@anjafark
15 tunni eest
​ @marinadovnich4663 Why do you ask such a question?
Have you personaly been at the front in WW II?
@marinadovnich4663
14 tunni eest
@anjafark Тому що
ця людина
(я щиро
сподіваюс&
#1100;,
що то саме
людина, а
не бот)
надивилас&
#1100;
пропаганд&
#1080;ських
відіо про
ніби
неонацист&
#1089;ькі
мітинги в
Києві. Всі
пропаганд&
#1080;сти
московії
говорили
про це
нон-стоп
перед
початком
повномасш&
#1090;абного
вторгненн&
#1103;
до лютого
2022-го року.
Тому вони
(громадяни
ніби то
московії)
вважають,
що мали
право
прийти в
Україну
вбивати
"нацистів".
До подій
другої
світової
війни це
не має
жодного
відношенн&
#1103;.
7
@TimeIdle
14 tunni eest
Possible that he's ignorant to the facts. He's living inside
Russia...
2
@user-ju5ly3du2d
14 tunni eest
@TimeIdle ну
многие
игнорирую&
#1090;
геноцид
палестинц&
#1077;в
потому что
смотрят CNN и
прочую
пропаганд&
#1091;…
1
@hikashia.halfiah3582
14 tunni eest
lol, with this kind of cognitive dissonance, I won't blame
solely Putin on this. The entire muscovites also to blame, at
least partially.
@igorsmirnov-xm9fn
14 tunni eest
Надеюсь,вы
так же
осуждаете
Россию,
которая
применяла
геноцид
против
чеченцев и
которая
оккупиров&
#1072;ла
Чечню на
протяжени&
#1077;
200лет
3
@user-ju5ly3du2d
14 tunni eest
@hikashia.halfiah3582 а
несут ли
ответстве&
#1085;ность
те кто
поставляю&
#1090;
оружие
Израилю и
поддержив&
#1072;ют
Израиль за
геноцид
палестинц&
#1077;в?
1
@zeljkopopovic2662
13 tunni eest
And what about "thousands" of ETHNIC RUSSIAN civilians in
Donbass killed deliberately since 2014 to the present day by
Ukrainian army (300 children included) ?!
That is genocidal war crime since Ukrainian army targets
deliberately ethnic Russian civilians of Donbass.
They do not count? Also on Ukrainian side civilian victims are
in majority from the regions with ethnic Russian majority.
Either way it is ethnic Russians that are victims in majority
cases. Russia must defend their Russian population in
repressive Ukraine that have denied basic rights to them. Right
on language and religion both denied.
@mrdan2898
13 tunni eest
He says that Ukraine was targeting Civilians but then says
luckily nobody was injured.
@user-qj5dj5hk1y
13 tunni eest
@semprefidelis76 Can I ask you a question? "You think you
don't have powerful propaganda." From the nonsense that you
wrote here , I see that you have it.
1
@Omgiamsotriggered
12 tunni eest
a day after kursk incursion russians destroyed a civilian
supermarket, and he has the nerves to say that
1
@Schokri94
12 tunni eest
Slava Ukraine ️🇺🇦️
@Hatzik
12 tunni eest
Indeed, Russians are quite surprised when it happens on their
land
@katewickins7584
12 tunni eest
​@zeljkopopovic2662 oh dear you really have no idea, you
do not invadecanother country killing thousands and ifvthis is
the "mighty" russian army they are quite pathetic
@WHADATBOYNAMEIS
12 tunni eest
@ramtron1775 that part
@northof49
11 tunni eest
@user-ju5ly3du2d You seem intent on being disruptive, sound
like a bot to me.
1
@zeljkopopovic2662
11 tunni eest
​ @katewickins7584
Ukrainian army has killed THOUSANDS of ethnic Russians in civil
war in Ukraine from 2014 to 2022.
Since Ukraine has rejected Minsk agreement and peaceful
solution for Donbass. Russia did not have other choice but to
defend ethnic Russians of Donbass by force.
@tomdittmar
11 tunni eest
​@zeljkopopovic2662 One comment, at least 4 mistakes...
Impressive
@tomdittmar
11 tunni eest
​ @zeljkopopovic2662 Soooo... Bombing Bakhmut to the
ground and kidnapping children to "reeducate" them is the
correct way to "defend" people that are not even a part of the
Russian federation?
Also what genocide? No language was prohibited, no religion was
prohibited and people started dying well after Russia sent
mercenaries to the donbass... Everything you say is demonstrably
wrong
2
@1167400
11 tunni eest
​ @zeljkopopovic2662 .......just a mindless bot ..speaking
Big Brother's lies ..
1
@paolodangelo2981
11 tunni eest
​ @semprefidelis76 This is exactly what happened. Who say
the opposite is a russian propagandist.
1
@zulubeatz1
10 tunni eest
@RCmies I have seen interviews with Russians who have a good
grasp of what is going on. A lot of these people are wilfully
ignorant because they are embarrassed and defensive.
@DanieltransP
9 tunni eest
@user-ju5ly3du2d Massacre, not genocide.
@user-re6iy2pq5c
9 tunni eest
​ @zeljkopopovic2662 forget this and give us the
pancake`s recipie
@Hordaric
9 tunni eest
@bobsenkler3131
@danzepping374
6 tunni eest
@ramtron1775 lol I know that got me.
@olenadalska5990
3 tunni eest
for over 10 years
@cegesh1459
3 tunni eest
At least since 2014
@anjafark
1 tunni eest
​ @marinadovnich4663 Sorry - I thing I missunderstood
you.
I thought you were doubting the russian war in Ukraine.
Many bots use the argument of "not having been there in person"
to undermine the actual proof of russian aggression.
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