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#Post#: 670--------------------------------------------------
Why traditional is still relevant
By: Lumaria Date: June 15, 2016, 6:31 am
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I'm here to say how important working traditional paper and pen
is.
Most people these days enjoy digital. Yes, there are a lot of
benefits to it. But recently I've been seeing people who
exclusively work on digital.
One of the biggest issues with that is limiting your time to
improve. Unless you carry a tablet, a great photoshop or so I
with you, then you'll be stuck doing nothing to improve. Even
then, battery doesn't last forever.
Starting off at traditional paper and pen gives you a good idea
on how pen strokes work and you can use those to improve. It's
much harder working from digitally first and then moving towards
traditional.
Lines, and strokes don't feel the same. The way you create
shadow and light also is a huge difference. And I'm fully aware
that the latest touch pads do record pen strokes, but they're
never 100% as accurate.
Using traditional really can help you understand how certain
lines flow. With digital theres so much freedom that you could
make any form and you wouldnt be ble to see the flaws as easily.
I remember seeing someone constantly adding spaces between their
lines in their digital manga. The reason why they did that was
because they saw traditional art do it. He didn't know the
reason why that happened was because the ink would ran out. So
his art looked inconsistent.
#Post#: 671--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: Tara Date: June 15, 2016, 7:28 pm
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That story is hilarious. Kids these days just don't understand.
Working with a stylus and pad felt so unnatural to me I couldn't
get into it. All the digital work I do now I believe is called
vector art because it uses math instead of strokes to create the
image. E.g. Adobe Illustrator. So I use a mouse to draw instead.
That statement always freaks people out.
I ended up with two different skillsets where some things that I
can draw traditional I can't draw digital, and vice versa. By
mastering the software, however, I'm hoping to bridge that gap.
I'm still very new to using ink and paint. Paint is truly the
bane of my existence, but I'm loving ink.
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Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: Lumaria Date: June 16, 2016, 4:22 pm
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But there are things people do because they saw it on
tradituinal, not because it's one of their strengths.
#Post#: 674--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: Crackhead Johny Date: June 16, 2016, 6:47 pm
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I don't know any artists who are exclusively digital, though I
do know many who can't afford to do digital.
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Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: Lumaria Date: June 17, 2016, 12:50 am
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[quote author=Crackhead Johny link=topic=85.msg674#msg674
date=1466120831]
I don't know any artists who are exclusively digital, though I
do know many who can't afford to do digital.
[/quote]
I know many who want to try to base their skills on their
digital and I know it sounds insane to think those kind of
people exist. But for some reason they do. And I don't know if
they changed. But they still seem to pop up when they say they
prefer digital over traditional when it comes to gaining skills.
#Post#: 680--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: HematoLogMeIn Date: June 18, 2016, 6:17 am
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I personally feel more connected with my art when I do it with
paper and pencil. I have tried digital art, and there are many
pros to it, but with paper and pencil, I can focus better
because I know that my pencil is going to do what it's going to
do when I move my wrist one way or another depending on how I
hold it. To me, it's like the difference between typing and
handwriting. Typing has a lot of benefits, but it doesn't feel
the same.
Then again, that may just be because of the fact that I was
raised with paper and pencil and was that kid who loved coloring
books (and am an adult that still loves them).
I can't remember which artist my art professor was quoting, or
if she was quoting anybody, but it went something like "A
painter who cannot first draw is a farce." I'm probably horribly
misquoting that, but learning to use a tool and draw with it is
a fundamental technique that all visual artists generally work
to master. Transferring that into digital art, however, is
another thing entirely than just starting in it. I think my
drafting teacher in high school said something similar about why
he wanted us to learn to use our scales and drafting desks with
paper and pencils before using a CADD program.
Besides that, digital media doesn't help you learn how water
will affect your watercolor, nor will it give you the
frustrations of how much pressure you put on a marker. Because
of that, and the different looks of other media, traditional art
will still live for a very long time.
#Post#: 699--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: Lumaria Date: June 21, 2016, 12:52 am
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It really depends on the resources, but some artist become
dependent on what they learned strictly on digital. They cannot
apply what they learned in an environment with out digital. And
that's one of the biggest problems certain modern artists have
made.
#Post#: 701--------------------------------------------------
Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: HematoLogMeIn Date: June 21, 2016, 12:38 pm
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Yes, digital users tend to have this luxury about cleaning up
layers and having certain effects within the program to help
them achieve what they're looking for, as well as a variety of
preset brushes to create texture for them.
That's all well and good, and when used well, the artwork is
great, however being used to relying on such things and not
learning how to make them work without a program is much more
difficult because doing it by hand is arguably much more time
consuming, which generally frustrates those who have become so
dependent.
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Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: Aimyraude Date: September 19, 2016, 3:28 pm
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Well i'm a digital artist but i do traditionnal on my sketch
book everyday and i have my own opinion about it since i am
using a cintiq (for those who dont know its a fucking huge
screen tablet for professionnal) that can feel the pressure, the
tilt of the pen, its rotation. Well anything and since it is a
screen it is totally different from a traditionnal tablet pc.
The pros... everything i do will still be relevent to draw on my
sketchbook too. Yeah i know i cant undo what i have done but in
fact im not staring at the screen and hoping what will comes out
is good enough i litteraly sketch like i would on paper. And
since its not a tablet like an ipad it is very precise. But if
you ask me if i prefer trad or digital it is obvious that
traditionnal still cant be replaced by digital its beauty
resides in its imperfection. And before i had my tablet i hated
doing digital because its tiring to always do a single line ten
times to have something that is almost what you wanted.
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Re: Why traditional is still relevant
By: Lumaria Date: September 19, 2016, 6:52 pm
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That's great. I don't want to devalue digital. But I do believe
learning the basics need to begin with traditional.
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