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#Post#: 2265--------------------------------------------------
FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Lumaria
Date: August 6, 2018, 8:17 pm
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One of my all-time favorite animes out there is FLCL. So when i
heard FLCL 2 and 3 were going to release, i was very skeptical.
Not only was the original team not involved, but the original
artist was available and they didn't want to take him in.
Regardless of how i felt before it released, i was optimistic
and it looked like the new team had a lot of passion for the
series. So i still wanted to give it a chance. After I finished
all 6 episodes of FLCL, here are my thoughts:
Its not a bad series overall, it definitely has an FLCL vibe,
but it never feels like it expands on anything or grows from the
original FLCL series, just puts more on top of it without
knowing what its actually doing.
In some parts, the series definitely tries to imitate FLCL
classic, and in other parts the series things its expanding
ideas that FLCL already but its really not. So in this review
i'm going to go into detail on what FLCL progressive got wrong
or not as well as the original. Of course, spoilers. So if you
haven't seen the series, i recommend you do.
#1) Story and Characters
What made FLCL really interesting was how the story was
complicated on multiple aspects that took time to decipher.
There were concepts like N.O., Atomsk, Medical Mechannica, and
Robots coming out of peoples heads if they met the right
qualifications (and i'm making it sound crazy intentionally as
that's how its suppose to feel at least on a first view). But
there's also the complicated relationship between Naota and
Mamimi, his friends and his family. Nothing was ordinary despite
Naota narrating. And it wasn't that those aspects of the story
were random, they were just told at a different pace. But it
wasn't like the series felt like it was intentionally vague
about it, it was due to
Trying to decipher both aspects of the series at the same time
was part of what made FLCL so rewatchable. In Progressive, its
completely expendable. The story doesn't feel worthy of watching
again. In both the crazy supernatural and the social aspects of
the series, they weren't that compelling or interesting or worth
investing in. Characters like Hidomi Hibajari were typical
Tsundere, but not because she had something interesting about
her to hide, that's just the way she was. Ko Ide was just a
ladies man who happens to get all the girls and is secretly is
poor making ends meet. And the way they portrayed the town that
these characters lived in, just didn't feel as real as the town
that Naota lived in.
None of them suggested or hinted that there was a complicated
history between them or characters. They had relatively basic
lives. Which really just didn't make it entertaining at all to
watch whenever i expected something to suggest these characters
were more than what they seemed and never coming close. Don't
get me started on Ide's friends.
and the worst for last: Haruko. The sole returning character and
they messed her up badly. IN the original, she would sometimes
speak randomly and tries to play some sort of rhyming game, she
never was as obnoxious as she was in FLCL progressive. Her tone
was completely different from the original, trying to constantly
sound obnoxious as possible. The biggest mistake that they got
wrong from Haruko was that even though she was manipulative, she
never "brainwashed" anyone to getting what she wanted and yet
thats exactly what she did in this series. She tried to
brainwash Ide and Hibajiri's class in the most obnoxious way
possible.
Another problem with FLCL Progressive is that it completely
misunderstood Haruko's relationship with Atomsk. In the
original, it was only referenced that she was in love with him
by Commander Amarao. But if you picked up on the clues, it
wasn't about romance. What Haruko really wanted to do was to
"eat him". This was referenced multiple times in the series when
she hit Naota's head she would scream "lunch time!" and get
angry for Naota for eating him when she said he was the only one
to eat him.
FLCL Progressive doesn't reference that at all and sticks with
what the creators interpreted. Which is a real shame.
#2) Sense of Randomness
One thing FLCL Progressive tries to do is push for a sense of
randomness just like classic did. However, it does it in the
wrong ways. FLCL Classic just really had the right level because
in some areas it was using animation changes, and in other
areas. FLCL Classic never pushed random moments as part of the
story, only in minor scenes. Anything that "seemed" random was
foreshadowed early in the episode.
FLCL Progressive did some random things and made no sense or
tried to really foreshadow them properly. in FLCL Classic,
Amarao's organization felt like a real secret government-based
organization trying to take out Haruko and Medical Mechannica
but in FLCL Progressive, they are trying to make a giant robot
out of an amusement park. And it never made sense as to why or
how they were able to do that. When they do attack the Medical
Mechannica plant, it just shoots giant mocchi and turns people
into mochi as well. And the secret weapon was a secondary
character who turned into a plant. And once again, it never
really made sense as to why or how its possible.
#3) Music and animation
The music is what i was looking forward to the most when it came
to the series. And the Pillows absolutely delivered. However,
the biggest mistake this series did is that it didn't
choreograph scenes to certain action scenes properly. Actions
scenes in FLCL progressive played the music not as loud and the
scenes wouldn't go with the action and sometimes they would cut
off the songs prematurely. It was irritating to see. The only
times they didn't do this was for the brand new songs.
FLCL Classic would also play the music in the background even
without big action scenes, but the scene would always end before
the song would. That is important because the song would linger
and it left a bigger impression. If FLCL Classic didn't do this,
i wouldn't think that the pillows would be as big as they are
now.
At the end of the day, i'm just disapointed. i don't hate the
sequels, but i knew what i was getting into when i saw the
trailers. Did anyone else feel the same way about FLCL
progressive? And is anyone looking forward to FLCL Alternative?
#Post#: 2266--------------------------------------------------
Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Orchid
Date: August 7, 2018, 3:00 pm
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I agree. I was extremely excited. I shouldn't have had high
expectations. It's not bad like you said, but it's not the same
team. You can tell it's not either.
The best thing about the series is new the pillow songs. So I'm
happy about that.
#Post#: 2268--------------------------------------------------
Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Lumaria
Date: August 8, 2018, 3:15 am
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The depressing part is that many people defend FLCL Progressive
due to thinking the original is overrated.
#Post#: 2282--------------------------------------------------
Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Crackhead Johny
Date: August 25, 2018, 1:16 am
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--- Quote from: Lumaria link ---
>
> The depressing part is that many people defend FLCL
Progressive due to thinking the original is overrated.
>
--- End Quote ---
I assume these people are young SAO/Naruto fans who are pretty
new to anime? Or just contrarians who hate the best stuff
because that makes them cooler? "Idiot, Fire wasn't man's most
important invention, the button down tweed blazer was man's most
important invention by far, now go back to your plebeian life,
the adults are talking!"
As things go it is the ONLY feature worthy of really deep
examination by high level film students (you know the kind*).
It is the best coming of age piece I have seen.
Spotting the Christ figure is well just a little too easy.
The Vespa represents time (hence it is often doing what time
does). Haruko represents hormones. The blue Rickenbacker
represents puberty, etc. But the way they put it together and
make it work.. immaculate.
*if you do not they are the kind who have been taught to pull
everything apart into symbolism and draw new stories, meanings,
and statements from things.
Apocalypse Now starts with Martin Sheen laying on the bed but
the shot is upside down. This is because Martin Sheen is the
Hanged Man. As you all knowing in tarot the The Hanged man
represents life in suspension.
#Post#: 2286--------------------------------------------------
Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Orchid
Date: August 29, 2018, 10:31 pm
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I think it's new younger fans more than contrarians.
#Post#: 2298--------------------------------------------------
Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Crackhead Johny
Date: October 6, 2018, 6:19 pm
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Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on Blu Ray yet.
My Amazon search shows a FLCL manga? Was that done after the
original series?
#Post#: 2300--------------------------------------------------
Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Orchid
Date: October 10, 2018, 8:07 pm
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--- Quote from: Crackhead Johny link ---
>
> Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on Blu Ray yet.
>
> My Amazon search shows a FLCL manga? Was that done after the
original series?
>
--- End Quote ---
The manga I can find at my used book store. its weird and not
that good. It didcome after the anime.
I'm surprised you cant find flcl on bluray. Unless you're
talking about FLCL Progressive
#Post#: 2301--------------------------------------------------
Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Crackhead Johny
Date: October 17, 2018, 4:42 pm
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--- Quote from: Orchid link ---
>
> [quote author=Crackhead Johny link=topic=163.msg2298#msg2298
date=1538867951]
> Unfortunately it doesn't seem to be on Blu Ray yet.
>
> My Amazon search shows a FLCL manga? Was that done after the
original series?
>
--- End Quote ---
The manga I can find at my used book store. its weird and not
that good. It didcome after the anime.
I'm surprised you cant find flcl on bluray. Unless you're
talking about FLCL Progressive
[/quote]
Yep progresive is the one I cannot find.
I have FLCL on the original DVDs and the Blu Ray.
#Post#: 2302--------------------------------------------------
Re: FLCL Progressive doesn't understand FLCL (classic).
DIR By: Orchid
Date: October 22, 2018, 7:26 pm
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I have a feeling they'll sell bku ray versions along side FLCL
alternative. Or with the original series too.
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