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By: Tara Date: May 23, 2017, 3:38 am
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: guest4 Date: May 23, 2017, 9:27 am
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[quote]A UE4 video game project of mine. A unique blend of
fighting game and moba. However, where mobas are focused on
destroying structures, Blade Regalia is focused on capturing an
objective like popular first person shooters. A genre only a
handful of games have ever touched on. [/quote]
MOBA = Multiplayer Online Battle Arena = Fighting game . Nothing
unique there .
League of Legends and Heroes of the Storm . There aren't much
MOBA games out there so even two games sample is more than
enough of a size . Also , I don't see the defined difference in
destroying structures and capturing an objective in MOBA games
that would make it revolutionary .
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: Lumaria Date: May 23, 2017, 2:29 pm
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I'm not too concerned by the game you are making and more about
the story. I read it. It isn't clear what is going on. I would
normally treat this as a chapter 0 or prologue where the next
chapter is where the story begins but it seems like the story
wants to continue directly from this point.
So I recommend continuing writing until it feels comolete. I
dont know who are the main characters are or the objective of
the story.
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: Lumaria Date: May 23, 2017, 4:59 pm
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This looks like it's combining both Kill la Kill and Akame ga
Kill. I'm not sure what tot think of it. The idea of regalia
isn't new and pretty generic. If you can somehow give them a
unique backstory then it might be interesting but so far nothing
is really drawing me in because I don't know what the appeal of
the story is.
It seems like you want the appeal to be about the regalia.
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: Orchid Date: May 24, 2017, 1:16 am
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I just read it. I thinking a good start. The idea sounds basic
IMO. Not that it's a bad thing but I'll leave the reviewing to
the others. I'll let you know how I feel about it when you add
more.
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: guest4 Date: May 24, 2017, 7:55 am
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Seeing that it's a story for the game as opposed to a story that
had a game as one of it's main setting , I'll leave it as that .
Otherwise , I won't hesitate to highlight the fallacies you had
stated there . Let's just say that it'll a counter-argument from
a gamer myself who plays mainly MMO and MOBA games .
Like Lumaria had already mentioned earlier , I didn't give my
thoughts on the story simply because it's too early and too
incomplete to give one . So , ditto on that . I got a notion
that you might fall into the same mistakes you've did with your
previous story , but that's just me .
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: Lumaria Date: May 24, 2017, 11:01 pm
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If you have seen Akame Ga Kill it does practically the same
concept but it doesn't focus on the Imperial Arms. So far you
haven't done a good job drawing readers in with what you want
them to care. The very basics of this world are missing and
nothing seems to fit.
I definitely don't think it's a good idea to have a direct
reference to the Bible so quickly without giving a full break
down of that lore and how it shaped the story. Hinting the lore
of the world and not giving us the basic layout adds a huge gap.
I don't even think you need the reference of Eve/snake. There's
a huge disconnect from that to the current situation you're
showing off.
Quickly naming the regalia also doesn't have a strong appeal but
it tells me you are already invested in them before we get any
build up to them or why they're interesting . I simply not
gravitated to them at all, First of you described or restricted
to armor or clothing. So I already know all regalia is going to
be something they wear.
To have a story focus on regalia just seems off. I think Regalia
should naturally be interesting but it doesn't seem natural In
this story. In Akame Ga Kill, Imperial Arms are simply
instruments to a more important story. What Akame Ga Kill truly
focuses on is how dark the world can be and how corrupt it can
be. They explained Imperial Arms fairly quickly but never feel
like you're missing information.
If you're trying to adapt a video game story into a manga or
comic. I'm already going to tell you that no one will read it
because it for the story. People read those adaptations to see
if they can find any differences from the original game or get
some slight insight on it. But never to see if the story is
good.
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: guest4 Date: May 25, 2017, 11:31 am
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[quote author=Tara link=topic=140.msg1744#msg1744
date=1495690587]
@DeAngelus
You seem to have a lot of hostility towards me. Maybe you're
unaware of it, maybe you're not. I did not lash out at you, I'd
like it if you did not lash out at me.[/quote]
[quote]If you are under the impression that League of Legends
and Archeblade are played exactly the same way, then I have to
disagree. If you are under the impression that MOBAs are few and
far between
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_multiplayer_online_battle_arena_games,<br
/>then I have to strongly disagree. It's okay to be wrong about
something even if you don't like me. It's okay.[/quote]
[quote]Color Coding
This discussion is ultimately constructive.
This discussion is ultimately destructive.
[/quote]
Wait , what ? Woah there ! Since when did I ever lash out there
? When would I have such impressions you assume it would be ?
You're making too early of a conclusion .
Now , all of what you did above rubs off as borderline 'passive
aggressive' and snarky . That's just you still unable to swallow
hard facts given to you on the previous issue and get past it
yourself . I'm giving you what I know and know is proven facts
(I won't give rumors and gossips as critique/feedback) . You're
going to have to take it head on again if the game manages to
make debut and I'm sure one or two known game critic I've heard
of would not go easy on you .
I would take a risky shot (the word 'garmble' seems to be
censored) and go completely off-topic by presenting my
counter-argument , but coupled with the above and this :
[quote]There are about 30 MOBAs on that list vs maybe 4 MOFGs
ever to be released. 2 of them by indie studios, Archeblade and
Blade Symphony. I know because I love playing these types of
games but nobody makes them because they're too busy copying
DotA2. I would play For Honor, but the price is a bit higher
than my interest in it.[/quote]
That came after this :
[quote]There are actually hundreds of MOBA, The biggest moba
esport title is Defense of The Ancients 2.[/quote]
I wouldn't even bother giving anymore factual thoughts on this
matter (Not going to deal with this anymore with someone whom I
had to paint myself as the villain in the previous incident) .
These are from your words you've typed out yourself and you
somehow made that correction after things got heated up when I
made my second post on the same post where you refer me to a
link I've known of and been there since I've made my first post
.
Here , let me give you a secret - I'm not perfect . I too do not
know just how many MOBA games are there in total (but I already
know there ain't much) . So I immediately start doing some
researching and better absorb all of the knowledge on it before
I commit myself to a counter-argument .
I'm not always all-knowing .
You , however , made that flub by providing along with the post
with the correction the link tells me clearly that :
a) You did not do any form of research before committing
yourself to a project and/or you're just not doing it
properly/trying harder at all because all you refer me is to a
wiki page , which I will assume that it's one of the very , very
few source of your references for research purpose .
b) You only use/do your research out of self-defense and/or when
you're cornered , which happened before in the previous incident
. Otherwise , you probably had no clue at all what you're doing
and/or saying .
c) You're being pretentious whenever there are people coming at
you with a counter-argument by attempting to throw claims that
gets nonsensical as time passes by .
d) You seek/wanted to be in the right . So you showcase that
haphazardly and piously tell off someone who had the better
experience's argument as inferior , to the point that it can
become a religious preaching from you . If it's wrong , we'll
tell you because we know it's wrong . If it's right , we won't
even open our mouth about it and just nod our heads .
Okay , let's just say that you are a gamer yourself and you're
more hard-core than me (not that difficult , I'm very casual of
a gamer) . If you are , why did you hit a lot of the 'SAO'
fallacies on your previous story ?
Unless the game and the story are an entity like your previous
story is , stop with the games thing with me right after this
post and I'll definitely stop , but I already did - I've made
myself clear there before .
Now please , get back and complete up your story .
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: Orchid Date: May 25, 2017, 11:31 pm
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Well let's not get too heated this time. I do hope you work on
your series.
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Re: Blade Regalia
By: guest4 Date: May 26, 2017, 9:37 am
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[quote]a) You did not do any form of research before committing
yourself to a project and/or you're just not doing it
properly/trying harder at all because all you refer me is to a
wiki page , which I will assume that it's one of the very , very
few source of your references for research purpose .
b) You only use/do your research out of self-defense and/or when
you're cornered , which happened before in the previous incident
. Otherwise , you probably had no clue at all what you're doing
and/or saying .
c) You're being pretentious whenever there are people coming at
you with a counter-argument by attempting to throw claims that
gets nonsensical as time passes by .
d) You seek/wanted to be in the right . So you showcase that
haphazardly and piously tell off someone who had the better
experience's argument as inferior , to the point that it can
become a religious preaching from you . If it's wrong , we'll
tell you because we know it's wrong . If it's right , we won't
even open our mouth about it and just nod our heads .[/quote]
[quote author=Tara link=topic=140.msg1746#msg1746
date=1495753000]
a) the types of things I have been researching are not the game
industry, but game development. I'm not the only one behind this
project, but my job is to build it. As with all things I do,
blade regalia exists because it doesn't exist. If another game
company was willing to make blade regalia I would put everything
down and gladly play it.
You said nothing new here to which I argued it is indeed a rare
genre. The game itself is a combination of Mortal Kombat and
Overwatch. I called it MOBA because I didn't know there was a
better name for it because there are so few games in this genre
that there isn't a well known name for it.
If you asked me a question about UE4 It'd probably be easier for
me to answer. If you asked me a question about 3D studio it
would probably be easier for me to answer. I've played a lot of
mobas my problem is the gameplay is too slow (relative to a game
like Mortal Kombat). The team play is MOBAs only redeeming
factor, but my question is why can't we have that and Mortal
Kombat at the same time? My research pertained to deciphering
whether or not that game did exist.
If you know a game that is exactly what I'm looking for then
please direct me to it. I stand to gain nothing from being right
in this situation, the gamer in me wants nothing more than to be
wrong. Aside from the fact that Blade Regalia is potentially a
profitable venture.[/quote]
Quoting A , B and D .
[quote]b) There is a nice way to say the speed of gravity is
9.81 m/s and a mean way to say that. The fact that I prefer the
nice way has nothing to do with whether or not I believe gravity
exists.[/quote]
Quoting C .
[quote]d) Although in some way it's the opposite, who doesn't?
Who goes out of their way to be wrong in any situation? If I'm
wrong, I think I'm right. It's not my fault if you fail to
convince me. Nobody who is wrong thinks they're wrong. That
would be a liar. It's not that I want to be right, it's that I'm
convinced that I am right.[/quote]
Quoting D . Also , flub spotted .
[quote]I called you hostile because you're clearly holding a
year old grudge against me. You're not perfect, neither am I. I
can admit there are not hundreds of MOBA if that's the main
problem you have with my arguments. I can admit the thought
process behind that statement was not malicious, but it was not
scholarly either. I'm not asking you to nail yourself to a
cross, but consider forgiveness is more a service to you than
the person you're forgiving.[/quote]
Quoting C and D .
Summarizing this all :
- You're "preaching" now , again .
- You're still talking about game stuff .
- You've got problem reading , big time .
- Last incident shenanigans all over again ... deja vu much ?
- Point E) Irony runs in your blood .
- You are going to respond to this post as well . I can bet my
life for that .
- Point F-
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