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Tiger killing bears accounts
By: The Solo hunter Date: September 23, 2018, 5:17 am
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This is a very popular and famous debate, as to who is truly
superior, the tiger or the bear. Now, in most regions and
countries where tigers co-exist with bears, most of the bears
are much smaller then the tiger. However, in the Russian Far
East, there is one bear that is actually larger then the tiger
and reaches enormous sizes, and thats the huge Ussuri brown bear
aka Black grizzly. Ussuri brown bears are one of the largest
sub-species of bears on earth, and are direct descendants of the
American grizzly bear, but their even more aggressive and
predatory. In spite of this, they are regularly hunted, killed
and eaten by Amur tigers in the wild.
In this thread i'm gonna prove with undisputed evidence that the
Amur tiger completely dominates and destroys the larger brown
bear, and prove that not only through predation, but even in
head-on fights, the tiger is the superior beast and the usual
winner over the brown bear and kills it FAR MORE often then not.
So what goes on in the taiga, when this happens:
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Here's some sources from scientific literature that CONFIRMS
that tigers dominate brown bears in head-on fights:
"In 44 recorded encounters between tigers and brown bears, the
tiger initiated contact in 12 cases while the bear initiated
contact in 8 cases. Of these encounters, 50% resulted in the
death of the bear, 27.3% resulted in the death of the tiger and
in 22.7% of encounters both animals survived and parted ways".
(Page 68)...
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In 45 cases of head-on collisions between tigers and brown
bears, 51.1% of collisions ended with a dead bear, and only 26%
of collisions ended with a dead tiger:
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Here's an account of a tiger that challenged a large brown bear
over his kill, and killed the bear:
"We heard one story about how a "large brown bear" having taken
on a wild board and covered it with scat and brushwood to make
some “stewed boar, bear style,” suddenly got paid a visit by a
hungry tiger. Oh how much blood got shed! The owner of the kill
died from terrible wounds and the disfigured tiger, moving off
like a drunk, didn’t even bother with the fresh spoils of the
kill." (Page 23)..
It also states: "All the researchers studying tiger kills point
to a single cause of death: A bite through the neck vertebrae at
the base of the skull. The predator can even kill bears this
way. It deftly makes its approach and with a single bite, the
victim is rendered motionless. Do what you will, the victim is
not going to recover, the power of the jaw is unimaginable"
(Page 9)
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Here's a video in Russian, stating that the tiger is the usual
winner over the brown bear in a fight:
"Timofei Bazhenov: "I am often asked: If the tiger meets the
brown bear in the taiga, who will win then? As a rule, a tiger
wins but it occurs a brown bear may win if it is big."
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Note: He says a big brown bear "may" win. Not "definately" or
even "likely" win, but may win. Meaning it has a chance then,
and I've never doubted that. A big brown bear is a formidable
match for any big cat, however, the tiger is the superior beast
and is the usual winner in a fight against a brown bear, no
matter even if the brown bear is large in size!
Here's a scientific journal which states that the tiger is
stronger and the usual winner over the brown bear:
"S.P. Kucherenko notes that the average tiger is always stronger
then the average bear"...
"But indeed from the scientific literature it follows that the
tiger not only is NOT inferior to the bear, but even more
frequently it leaves as conqueror"
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Account of a tigress that fought off a brown bear (Large male)
to protect her cubs:
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Its a well known fact that the only bears that bother tigresses
with cubs, are ONLY the huge adult male Brown bears, and yet a
much smaller TIGRESS was able to suppress and injure the bear
and protect her cubs, where as adult brown bears can't even
defend their offspring from tiger attacks, and even get killed
by tigers in the process of trying to protect their cubs!..
Russian text book scan, reporting a fight between a tiger and a
brown bear, in which the tiger killed the bear:
A hunter from Vladivostok saw crows circling in the forest. He
followed them and found a place where a tiger and a bear had
fought in the snow. They found the dead bear, but not the tiger.
The tiger had gone before they arrived:
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Most, if not all Russian biologists widely acknowledge and agree
that the tiger is the superior beast and dominates the brown
bear.
Tigress kills a full-grown adult male grizzly bear in a fight:
(The grizzly was described to be 'savage' in nature)
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Here’s another source stating, that the tiger is the usual
winner in a fight to the death against a bear, and will even
devour the bear for dinner after its been killed:
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Clear proof from scientific literature shows that the tiger
dominates the brown bear in head-on battles, and is the usual
winner in a fight, period.
Here's by far one of the best accounts regarding Amur tigers vs
Brown bears, from John Vaillant:
John Vaillant actually went to the Russian Far-East and
interviewed many top authorities regarding tigers and bears,
from; Renowned biologists (Dale Miquelle, J.Goodrich included)
aswell as other Russian biologists, hunters, natives,
naturalists, locals, forest rangers etc...and they all told him
that the tiger completely dominates the brown bear and regularly
attacks, kills and eats them. He was even told that tigers kill
bears solely on principle, and will pick fights with bears and
tear them apart:
"This is a book about Russians and their tigers, and much of the
information in it comes from Russian sources, including many
interviews."
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"Tigers attack and eat both black and brown bears on a fairly
regular basis; this is striking because, ordinarily, no animal
in its right mind would take on a bear. Russian brown bears
belong to the same species as American grizzlies and can weigh a
thousand pounds in weight; their ferocity and power are
legendary. In spite of this, they have been known to flee at the
sight of a tiger. "In January 1941, I encountered the prints of
a very large brown bear," wrote the tiger biologist Lev
Kaplanov. "This animal, which had accidentally come across a
tiger family on the trail, abandoned this path at a gallop"...
"Practically speaking, even a modestly sized brown bear would be
a match for any tiger. So why would a tiger pick a fight with
such a dangerous opponent? And why would it then prosecute the
battle - as sometimes happens - to the point of tearing the bear
limb from limb and scattering its appendages across the battle
ground? While the motives can never be fully understood, the
discovery and description of such scenes would go a long way
toward explaining why indigenous people like Ivan Dunkai's son
Mikhail refer to the tiger - not the larger brown bear - as the
"Czar of the forest"..
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Everything Vaillant stated in his book, was based off first-hand
authentic accounts and testimonies from all the TOP AUTHORITIES
on this subject. He was also told by all these people, that the
tiger is widely acknowledged and regarded as the undisputed Lord
and Master of the taiga.
Here's a video of John Vaillant talking about the tigers
dominance over the Russian grizzly bear. Go to the 11:29 mark,
and he's asked about tigers and big Russian bears/Grizzly bears,
and he states the following: "The tiger has a inborn sense of
total dominance over its domain. Russian brown bears are the
equivalent of our Grizzly, the tiger attacks, kills and eats
them on a regular basis, I've seen video of a tiger charging a
helicopter. So they have this inborn sense that there's nothing
out there, thats bigger and badder then me and they act on
that":
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In the same interview, he states that he talked to people who
have worked with tigers their whole life. So clearly, he was
told that the tiger dominates the brown bear.
Most bearfanz think that when tigers predate on bears, its on
"rare" occasions and when bears are in hibernation, which
couldn't be further from the truth. The REALITY is that tigers
regularly hunt and kill both brown bears and black bears
(Including full-grown adult bears), mostly during the summer and
autumn months, when bears are at their strongest and biggest.
Here's blatant, undisputable proof that shows that bears
comprise a LARGE PORTION of the tigers diet and are regularly
hunted and killed by tigers:
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More data showing that bears comprise a large significant
portion of the tigers diet. Claws of adult bears were found
repeatedly in the excreta of tigers:
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"The suggestion that tigers attack bears only when there is an
insufficient amount of its usual food, is not quite correct.
Since attacks take place also at their high numbers"
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A recent paper written by the Russian biologist: K.N. TKACHENKO
( Published in 2012 )
His study also showed that bears comprised a (31.2%)
considerable proportion of the tigers diet:
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Here's a video of an Amur tiger climbing a tree to look for
Black bears:
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Another video showing Black bears climbing and hiding in the
same tree trunk hole! (Different timings of the videos and
different angles):
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Male tigers and female tigers actively hunting bears. Modern
data:
Several of his scats from summer and winter contained bear hairs
and claws:
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Remains of an Asiatic black bear that was killed and eaten by a
male tiger:
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Here's a scientific article, showing that tigers consumed more
bears then wild boars during the snow-free period:
"Across all sites, tiger diet varied seasonally, with tigers
consuming more bear, and less wild boar biomass during the
snow-free months" (Page 359)...
"In addition, bears constituted a significantly higher
proportion of tiger diet in the summer, and while not
significant, badgers increased in the diet of tigers during the
snow-free period as well"...
"The increased predation on bears and badgers is likely due to
their increased availability following emergence from
hibernation and the increased vulnerability of their young,
although tigers do prey on adult bears. Amur tiger predation on
bear is not a new phenomenon, but our results, in addition to
identifying seasonality in tiger predation of bears, also
suggests that bears constitute a relatively large portion of
tiger diet, particularly during the snow-free period"...(Page
360)
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Here's a scientific study showing that tigers killed adult brown
bears OUTSIDE their dens, and not during hibernation:
"Although tigers prey on adult brown bears, we did not detect
predation by tigers on denned brown bears. Brown bear selection
of den site and den type may reduce risk of predation by tigers
because tigers infrequently used such high elevations (J.
Goodrich, Wildlife Conservation Society, unpublished data) and
brown bears could likely defend the narrow tunnel at the
entrance of an excavated den"..(Page 159)
"A radio-collared adult male tiger killed and ate a
radio-collared adult male Asiatic black bear" (Page 157):
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Large adult brown bear (Said to be a huge male) killed and
partially eaten by a tiger:
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You can clearly see that the bear is large in size, because even
though its partially eaten, it still looks massive:
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More proof from the factual book, published by Russian
biologists: "Mammals of the Soviet Union"...
Tigers tackle bears much larger then themselves. Bears are
generally afraid of tigers, and run away from their tracks. A
tigress easily destroyed an entire brown bear family (Adult
female and cubs), WITHOUT AMBUSH:
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Source:
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Large brown bears were chased from their dens by tigers, and
forced to become rovers: ( Mammals of the Soviet Union )
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Tigress mauls and kills a LARGER 170kg brown bear:
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Account from renowned wildlife biologist/naturalist, Joel
Berger, who visited the Russian Far-East and reported a case in
his book: "Fear in the animal world" of an adult brown bear,
estimated to be around 400-500lbs that was killed by a tiger. He
also stated that bears couldn't even defend their offspring from
tigers, which just goes to show the tigers sheer dominance over
the brown bear even more:
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Here's an email from one of the top renowned Amur tiger
biologists; Linda Kerley's experience on tigers and bears...
"I have been studying tiger food habits for the past 14 years
and have found several bears killed and eaten by tigers. Some
tigers specialize in eating bears and they will kill both
Asiatic black bears and LARGER Brown bears. We radio-collared
one male tiger who ate bears all summer and lost weight in the
winter presumably because he couldn't find his favourite food.
Recently, people have been killing bears because of an increased
demand for bear feet and gall bladders, and I worry that this
will effect tigers as well because bears are an important food
source for tigers in summer."..
"I've seen tigers prey on all shapes and sized of black bears
and up to the LARGEST and HEALTHIEST female brown bears"
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Here's an account documented by Linda Kerley and biologist, John
Goodrich, of a 200kg male tiger that specializes in killing
adult brown bears LARGER then itself: (Thats bears over 200kgs
killed and eaten):
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Another habitual-bear killing tiger, who over 80% of his kills
consisted of brown bears, including adult bears that he kills
with no problems:
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Last Big Cats by Erwin A. Bauer (quoted)…
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"Hornocker and Quigley bring their great experience with North
american mountain lions to their Siberian tiger investigations.
Recently on the Sikhote-Alin Biosphere Reserve, he and Quigley
discovered a similar situation. A 400-pound (180kg) male Amur
tiger had developed an even stranger preference for just one
prey: Brown bears. Although red deer and other game were readily
available, this cat stalked and ate bears almost twice as heavy
as itself. The biologists tracked the tiger through the snow to
eight separate bear kills, all of which seemed to have been
accomplished without great effort, except one. In that kill,
there was evidence of a vicious battle with bits of bear hide
strewn over a wide area, but the tiger had won”
Habitual bear-killing tiger named "Dale" regularly killed and
ate adult bears. This tiger killed at least 4 big adult brown
bears and an adult male Asiatic black bear:
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Re: Tiger killing bears accounts
By: The Solo hunter Date: September 23, 2018, 5:18 am
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Bearfanz like to think that adult male brown bears are "immune"
from tiger attacks, which is pure bullshit. In reality, there
are several reported instances of LARGE adult male brown bears
that were killed and eaten by tigers!!..
Accounts of tigers killing and eating large adult male brown
bears:
"In December 1959 on the river. A light tiger killed a large
brown bear, and lived near him for about 10 days, until it was
eaten, and then left to the south along the shore-sea (AE
Karavanov)."
Here's the original Russian source: (Top paragraph)
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Here's the english translation to the Russian text:
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Here's an account from the great biologist/zoologist, V. Mazak
from his book; "Der Tiger" of a tiger that killed and ate a very
large male brown bear:
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This is the tiger that killed and ate the huge male brown bear,
shot by the hunter 'Jankowski':
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This is the English translation of the German writing/paragraph
marked in red on the page.
Mazak added:
To complete the information on this giant tiger, I should
perhaps mention that Jankowski wrote that the tiger had killed
and eaten a very large male brown bear a few days before he was
shot, of which only a leg and the head, found by Jankowski,
remained "...
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Here’s a sketch from Mazak, depicting a tiger killing a male
brown bear:
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K.G Abramov also reported a case of a male tiger that killed and
ate a large male 'Shatun' brown bear.
'THE MANCHURIAN TIGER'.
by N.A. Baikov, a lifetime member of the Society of Study of the
Manchurian territory, the author of the book "In mountains and
woods of Manchuria", St.-Petersburg,1915.
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"A rather big tiger would defeat a bear of almost the same
weight. For this purpose, the predator tracks down the bear and
makes an ambush, ordinarily on a rock or in wind-fallen trees,
taking the side against the wind. Carelessly a bear slowly goes
by an ambush, suspecting nothing, and the tiger rushes out on it
from above, its one paw claws under the bear's chin, the other
paw at the throat, and the tiger bites through the neck
vertebrae. Sometimes the bear notices the danger in time, and
not feeling able to struggle with this enemy, it escapes into
the nearest tree, where the tiger cannot follow, being unable to
climb the trees. It is possible that the tiger would patiently
wait under the tree, till the bear is tired out of sitting in
the tree and then it comes down, but more often in such cases
the tiger would pretend to be leaving the place, whereas it
would hide in a new ambush and watch the bear come down. In a
word, there is no animal in the Manchurian taiga guaranteed
against attack of the terrible predator, starting from the bear
and finishing with the hare"...
"The powerful blow of this animal's paw is unusually strong. In
one case the tiger rushed on a Chinese loggers wagon train from
an ambush. By one jump it threw down the horse of the first
sledge. The horse sprang up again and rushed forward. This left
the tiger's hind legs on the ground. Holding the horse with its
fore legs, the tiger tore out the whole horse's flank with its
right paw, and the left one caught the eye sockets and broke
down the neck vertebrae. All this time the woodcutters, going on
twenty sledges, lay down on snow, begging the terrible king of
the mountain taiga for mercy. By tearing off the harness, this
blood-thirsty king snatched the dead horse at the back of the
neck, carried the carcass for half kilometer on into thickets
and ate up the hind legs. Three days later it hid again in an
ambush in the same place, doing the same thing with another
horse, leaving people safe and secure once again."..
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Brown bear killed and devoured by a tiger:
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Vladimir Putins tiger, released in the wild, kills and devours a
bear:
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This same tiger named 'Boris' killed around 3-4 brown bears on
record, and he's only a juvenile tiger.
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Account of an Amur tiger named 'Vladik' who traveled 400 miles
back to a Russian city, and during his journey, he killed and
ate 3 Himalayan black bears:
"Dubbed “Vladik” after a nickname for this port city of 600,000
near Russia's borders with China and North Korea, the tiger came
near the village of Yasnoye near Vladivostok airport this week.
Scientists have followed him via a GPS collar since he was
released in Bikin national park after his capture last year. On
the long trip back, Vladik crossed the Trans-Siberian railroad
and killed and ate three Himalayan black bears."
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Siberian tigers are known to kill adult brown bears:
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Siberian tiger is the undisputed King of the Russian forests,
and kills bears:
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FOOD-CHAIN OF THE RUSSIAN ECO-SYSTEM: (Amur tiger dominates,
kills and eats every single creature in its domain)
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"Amur tigers are at the top of their food chain, these tigers
have even been reported to eat brown and black bears."
HTML http://berrysiberiantiger.weebly.com/diet.html
"Tigers regularly attack and eat brown bears, Asiatic black
bears and Sloth bears"
HTML https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Panthera_tigris/#food_habits
Another Amur tiger food-chain diagram: (Tigers kill and eat
everything, including bears) NO ANIMAL IS SAFE FROM THE TIGER.
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"Tigers attack and eat grizzly bears and black bears."
"Amur tigers are at the top of the food chain in the Siberian
eco-system and have no natural predators."
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"Amur tigers are known to kill adult brown bears"
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"Amur tigers have been reported to prey regularly on full-grown
Ussuri brown bears"
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"There are regular observances of male tigers preying on adult
Ussuri brown bears"
HTML https://animalsadda.com/siberian-tiger-amur-tiger-facts-pictures-habitat-behavior-diet/
"Tigers kill other large felids and carnivores including Jungle
cats, fishing cats, Asiatic golden cats, Eurasian lynx,
Leopards, Dholes, Grey wolves, Asiatic Black bears, Sloth bears
and Brown bears ( Including adults )"...
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"Tigers can and do kill larger brown bears"
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"Ussuri brown bears will feed on Amur (Siberian) tiger kills and
are themselves a prey animal of the tigers"
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"They have no problem taking down animals larger than themselves
including water buffaloes and bears."
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"A full-grown bear should be too formidable an opponent for a
tiger, but many reports indicate tigers having killed brown
bears and black bears weighing about 450kg. In addition, bears
are known to flee from the sight of a tiger."
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I've clearly established with undisputable scientific proof,
studies, data and accounts that shows that tigers clearly
dominate, attack, kill and eat both brown bears and black bears,
including full-grown adult bears, on a regular basis!
CONFIRMED EVIDENCES WE DO HAVE FOR ARE:
1) Tigers regularly hunt and kill brown bears and black bears
(Including full-grown adult specimens). Which has been confirmed
by scientific studies and data.
2) Bears comprise a LARGE PORTION of the tigers diet, especially
during the summer and autumn months, where bears are at their
strongest and biggest.
3) Tigers can and do kill larger adult brown bears then
themselves, which has been confirmed and documented by the
experts and biologists.
4) Tigers dominate brown bears in face-to-face fights and kill
them far more often then not.
5) In general, bears have an innate fear of tigers and will run
away from tiger tracks, and adult black bears will desperately
flee up tree's for their lives, to escape tigers.
6) Most adult brown bears that are killed and eaten by tigers,
are killed OUTSIDE THEIR DENS, during summer and autumn time and
not during hibernation. (Confirmed by scientific studies).
Putting all these factors together, its very clear that the
tiger dominates the Russian grizzly bear and black bear, period.
Even a Monkey can clearly see that. All these bearfanz who
ramble shit like.. "Tigers only kill adult bears during
hibernation" and "tigers can't beat adult brown bears more times
in face-to-face fights" and "tigers rarely kill and eat
bears"...have all easily been debunked and exposed by countless
sources from scientific literature, which shows and proves that
tigers regularly hunt and kill adult brown bears and black
bears, even kill larger adult male brown bears, and that tigers
even dominate and destroy brown bears in head-on battles, which
all you deluded bearfanz thought was not possible!
Russian biologists, aswell as all the native Russian people,
tribes, hunters and locals, all widely acknowledge and regard
the TIGER as the superior and more formidable beast, which
regularly kills, eats and dominates the Russian brown bear and
completely rules the taiga.
"The indigenous populations had respected the tigers, seeing
them as the masters of the taiga"
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Like all aboriginal hunters, Dersu feared the tiger's immense
strength and ferocity but also revered it as the very breath and
spirit of the taiga. These Tungus peoples considered it a
near-deity and sometimes addressed it as "Grandfather" or "Old
Man." The indigenous Udege and Nanai tribes referred to it as
"Amba" or "tiger" (it was only the white strangers—the
Russians—who translated that word as "devil"). To the
Manchurians, the tiger was Hu Lin, the king, since the head and
nape stripes on certain mythic individuals resembled the
character Wan-da—the great sovereign or prince. "On a tree
nearby fluttered a red flag," Arseniev wrote, "with the
inscription: ` San men dshen vei Si-zhi-tsi-go vei da suay Tsin
tsan da tsin chezhen shan-lin,' which means `To the True Spirit
of the Mountains: in antiquity in the dynasty of Tsi he was
commander-in-chief for the dynasty Da Tsin, but now he guards
the forests and mountains.'"
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TO THE MASTER OF THE TAIGA - AMUR TIGER:
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"In the village of Krasny Yar (120 kilometers from Vladivostok)
live the Udege people, indigenous inhabitants of the taiga, who
know more than anyone else about the Siberian tiger. They
literally live side by side with tigers and they can tell you a
lot about their character and habits. In Udege culture the tiger
is a sacred animal, “a master of the taiga,” which you can turn
to for help and protection."
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"This kingly animal has been awarded by various epithets; "the
striped Master of the Taiga"..
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More proof showing that Russians regard the tiger as the "Master
of the taiga"..
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WHO LIVES IN THE TAIGA:
"The fauna of the Ussuri taiga has no peers in Russia. It is
home to about 80 species of mammals, from shrews and hedgehogs
to bears and tigers. This is the only place in our country where
you can meet four wild cats: the Amur leopard, the Amur tiger,
the lynx and the Far Eastern forest cat. In the taiga brown
bears can meet their southern counterpart, the Himalayan bear.
Here you can find Amur gorals, sika deers, martens, Manchurian
hares and other endemic, rare and endangered animal species."...
"The master of the cedar-broadleaf forests is the Amur tiger,
one of the largest predators on the planet"
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"The Ussuri have two totems. One is the tiger, the other is the
bear. Long ago, people who lived in northern Siberia worshipped
the bear or the wolf, since at that time in northern Siberia
there were no tigers. Bears and wolves were the strongest
animals they had seen, and thus made the most obvious totems for
worship. But when the Ussuri achieved dominance, they worshipped
the tiger."
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John Vaillant was also told by all the natives, experts, locals,
forest rangers etc...that he interviewed, that the tiger is
widely regarded as the undisputed Lord and Master of the taiga,
not the larger brown bear.
Bearfanz, whether you like it or not, the tiger has clearly
established itself as the FAR SUPERIOR and more dominant beast,
period.
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Re: Tiger killing bears accounts
By: The Solo hunter Date: September 23, 2018, 5:20 am
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Bengal tiger domination over bears:
Tiger kills and devours a large bear, after a fierce struggle:
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Tiger kills and partially devours a bear:
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The Book of the Tiger, by Reginald George Burton (1933):
Tiger severely mauls a large bear:
"The Indian sloth bear does not escape the hunger of the Tiger,
but can scarcely be numbered among his aggressive enemies,
although a bear was seen to attack and begin biting a dead Tiger
which had just been shot. Bears no doubt not infrequently fall
victims, and I recollect the inhabitants of a village in the
Melghat forest bringing to camp the skin of a large bear which
they said they had killed after it had been badly mauled by a
Tiger with which it had had a prolonged struggle.The skin bore
tooth and claw marks, and there was no reason to doubt the truth
of their story; but the bear could probably not put up much of a
fight against such a formidable and agile an antagonist. I have
found remains of bears eaten by Tigers, and have also beaten
both animals out of the same cover."..
From F.C. HICKS, FORTY YEARS AMONG THE WILD ANIMALS OF INDIA
(1910):
Tiger kills and eats a large full-grown male bear after a fight:
"On one occasion, in 1893, while inspecting the Khatoli block in
the north-east corner of the Jubbulpore District, on the borders
of the Native State of Rewah, I came across the fresh tracks of
a very large male tiger, and as I had little else to do just
then, I amused myself by following up his tracks to see where he
had gone to. While doing so, I also came across the fresh
footprints of a large male bear, and the possibilities of their
having met occurred to me, which lent an additional interest to
my task."...
"Going up the bed of a somewhat wide nalla, the tracks led into
a smaller one to the east, and presently one of my men called
out to me to come and see what he had found. On reaching the
spot where he was standing in some long grass, I saw that the
grass had been trampled down flat and smeared with blood over an
area of about twenty yards square, from the appearances of which
it was evident that two large animals had been fighting here for
a considerable period of time. To one side of this arena was
another trail of blood, and on following this for a short way,
we found the remains of a full-grown bear — the head, feet,
portions of the skin and bunches of hair lying about. Near by
also was a pool of water, by which were the footprints of the
tiger showing where he had drunk water after his meal."...
"The whole thing was perfectly clear: after a prolonged fight,
the tiger had killed and eaten the bear"..
"A tiger who could kill a large male bear was obviously a beast
worth trying for; but as I then had only three men with me, and
the jungles were very heavy all round, I was unable to beat for
him there and then."..
FULL-GROWN ADULT SLOTH BEAR ATTACKED AND BADLY INJURED BY A
TIGER IN TADOBA:
Nagpur: A sloth bear was rescued by forest officials and
Chandrapur NGO Eco-Pro in the buffer zone of Tadoba-Andhari
Tiger Reserve (TATR) on Wednesday. The eight-year-old bear is
undergoing treatment at the transit centre at Seminary Hills.
According to deputy conservator of forests (buffer) Gajendra
Narwane, the field staff at Bhuyardeo protection hut in
Khadsangi buffer on late Tuesday night heard the loud noise of
tiger roars and sloth bears.
Finding something fishy, on Wednesday morning the staff went to
the spot and found that a bear cub was lying dead. They also
noticed a full-grown bear with sluggish movement.
On receiving information, Narwane, ACFs RR Kulkarni, RK Sorte,
wildlife vet Ravikant Khobragade and Bandu Dhotre of Eco-Pro and
his team rushed to the spot with all equipment and rescued the
bear.
The mother bear was limping and unable to move. We immediately
rescued it and sent to transit centre at Nagpur. It was a case
of a tiger attack as the bear cub had canine marks on its face.
We also found tiger pugmarks near the spot," said Narwane.
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Account of a male tiger named 'Charger' that killed and ate an
adult Sloth bear:
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Here's the video of the tiger 'Charger' eating his adult Sloth
bear kill, mentioned in the account above. It also has footage
of a tigress that faces-off with another adult Sloth bear, and
then the bear runs away for its life:
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Tiger easily destroys an entire Sloth bear family, with no
problems:
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TIGERS EAT SLOTH BEARS.
The tigress and her cubs fed on this adult Sloth bear kill for 4
days:
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"In India’s jungles tigers sometimes kill sloth bears. And eat
them for breakfast – and lunch and dinner if there’s anything
left over! Although the shaggy sloth bear, one of four species
of bears found in India, has a fearsome reputation for
unprovoked aggression, Baloo is obviously no match for Shere
Khan. Bear hair in tiger scat is not an unusual sight in forests
where the two species co-exist. My friend, Dr. K. Yoganand, a
wildlife biologist who studied sloth bears in Panna Tiger
Reserve in Madhya Pradesh, not only witnessed many aggressive
encounters between bears and tigers, he even photographed a
tiger feeding on a fresh sloth bear kill. Obviously there is
little love lost between the two species, which makes the
incident I’m about to narrate rather unique."..
"As we watch in disbelief, it is followed by an obviously
agitated sloth bear that begins charging towards the predator.
The big cat turns around, and we brace ourselves for a
horrendous battle resulting in one very dead bear. Instead,
confounding our belief, and standing conventional wisdom on its
head, the tiger calmly flops down and contemplates the bear with
complete equanimity!"..
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More evidence of the tigers domination over Sloth bears...
Valmik Thapar, "Tiger: Portrait of a predator"
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Here's the account from G.P. Sanderson, mentioned above by
Valmik Thapar, of a tiger that habitually killed and ate bears:
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Book:
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More tiger predation on Sloth bears and a case of a full-grown
Malayan sun bear that was killed and devoured by a tiger. These
authors were told by their guides and locals, that these
incidents are not uncommon:
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Adult Sloth bear see's a young sub-adult tigress relaxing in a
watering-hole, and then retreats out of fear:
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Tigress kills an adult Sloth bear:
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Tiger chasing Sloth bear:
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2 year old tiger cub, chases away an adult Sloth bear:
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Tigress scares and chases away a big adult Sloth bear:
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