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       #Post#: 763--------------------------------------------------
       Vawt with treadmill motor 
   DIR By: sut
       Date: November 5, 2013, 11:48 am
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       Has any body ever tried using a vawt  windmill with a tread mill
       motor in place of the stator and magnet plate? I recently have
       come across one and thought it may be a good use for it instead
       of using it for a hawt windmill . I think it would fit nicely
       under it and it has a big enough serpentine pulley that's flat
       and should mount right up to the bottom of the rotor .I don't
       know if the motor can survive being turned this way because of
       the bearings in it . It also came with the control board which
       should have a lot of goodies with it. I have not had time yet to
       examine it real closely but I think it has some kinda rpm
       monitor hooked to the tail of the motor (a little disk with
       holes in it and a sender unit )
       #Post#: 764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vawt with treadmill motor 
   DIR By: crazyguy
       Date: November 5, 2013, 12:04 pm
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       You could use the motor with a belt (that would save the
       bearings) but belts steal power.
       The wheel with the holes in it is called an encoder. Probably
       optical with an infrared LED and photo diode or photo transistor
       sensing the holes.
       #Post#: 765--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vawt with treadmill motor 
   DIR By: lynx wind
       Date: November 5, 2013, 12:09 pm
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       I have only had good results with alternators taht are extremely
       free to spin.  There is so little startup torque with a lift
       type Vawt, and that was the one thing that always held the
       design back.  An alternator for the Gull type lift VAWT needs to
       spin like a lazy susan at a Chinese restaurant after a few
       cocktails.
       How easy does the treadmill motor spin?
       #Post#: 766--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vawt with treadmill motor 
   DIR By: crazyguy
       Date: November 5, 2013, 4:53 pm
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       lynx is right.  doesn't a treadmill motor have brushes? Only
       answer i can think of is a drag type vawt they have more
       starting torque. Put a crank on it and hook up a meter does it
       get at least to 5 volts?
       #Post#: 767--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vawt with treadmill motor 
   DIR By: sut
       Date: November 5, 2013, 5:25 pm
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       Well at this time I don't know much about this motor ! its still
       on front half of treadmill I can't read the tag on motor . I
       have gave it a spin with my hand and got 1.5 volts dc at the
       time (not a strong spin ) I was not sure if it would be ac
       current or dc but I do know it has brushes cause I can here them
       dragging . I don't have much free time at this point,in between
       doing leaves,getting snow plow ready for winter and everything
       else ( finding a new home for  diy 75 ) But I probably will
       mount it on my hawt .
       #Post#: 776--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vawt with treadmill motor 
   DIR By: sut
       Date: November 7, 2013, 7:03 am
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       I had to move the old tread mill outside to make room to work on
       my truck so I took off the motor ! and this is what is on the
       name plate. 130v dc ff.1.0 amo  2.5 hp  6700 rpm  18 amp   CW
       rotation  now is that looking at the pulley so you see it from
       the outside or looking at it from the motor side . I hooked it
       up to a meter and gave it a spin with my finger on the pulley
       and I could get it up to 4.5 volts (not bad ) I also hooked it
       up to a 12v light bulb and could get the filament to glow pretty
       good .
       @ lynx wind  the motor spins pretty easy but you can just feel
       the magnets pull, defiantly not as easy as the 75
       #Post#: 777--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Vawt with treadmill motor 
   DIR By: lynx wind
       Date: November 7, 2013, 7:18 am
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       It would work, but the resistance is usually fairly high with
       that type of motor which means a lot of the power will get
       turned to heat in the windings.  You would probably not see it
       start until winds got to 12 mph which is over average in most
       areas.  But, give it a try with something, maybe your HAWT and
       let us know.
       If nothing else you could probably Ebay it for good money.
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