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       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: ethan
       Date: August 6, 2015, 1:19 pm
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       Are some of the panels facing the other way?
       It looks like two are facing noth, two south, two east, two
       west.
       They need to all face the same direction which is south, then
       track the sun from east to west.
       Or am i misinterpreting your drawing?
       One panel two mirroes = more power , plus hot water.
       #Post#: 6059--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: Michael Anthony
       Date: August 6, 2015, 1:57 pm
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       All the panels are facing straight up towards the sun, the
       platform is horizontal. Think of a small train going in circles!
       #Post#: 6060--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: ethan
       Date: August 6, 2015, 2:00 pm
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       ?
       Then why are you rotating anything?
       Is this a spoof?
       #Post#: 6061--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: Michael Anthony
       Date: August 6, 2015, 2:09 pm
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       no spoof I am very serious1  If I have 8    330 watt panels just
       setting in the sun the most I can hope to get out is 2640 watts
       at peak hours1 But if I use that power to rotate a platform and
       take the power from the center shaft I can get  TEN times MORE
       power!
       #Post#: 6062--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: ethan
       Date: August 6, 2015, 2:31 pm
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       Like i said before, if they are all pointing straight up, what
       good does rotation do?
       They are all still not tracking the sun. The panels get max
       solar radiation when they are perpendicular to the sun in both
       axis.
       If the merry go round just spins, then you gain nothing.
       This is a spoof, right?
       If not, draw a better picture. Sorry, maybe ive not slept
       well.:-(
       #Post#: 6063--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: Michael Anthony
       Date: August 6, 2015, 3:32 pm
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       ethan; If you can double or even triple the output of your solar
       panels, that would be good right? By spoof do you mean joke?
       Then no  I am not joking!  I will draw a better picture. The
       first picture I drew is a birds eye view. In other words you are
       in the air looking down on it!
       #Post#: 6064--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: Michael Anthony
       Date: August 6, 2015, 3:55 pm
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       here are a couple of  sketches that I hope will help
       #Post#: 6065--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: ethan
       Date: August 6, 2015, 4:38 pm
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       Oh. Now i get it.
       You want to spin the carousel with electric power produced by
       the solar panels and the spinning will drive an alternator to
       make AC?
       Thats got to be the largest invertor ive ever seen.:-)
       As always , ideas like this fall down because according to the
       first law of thermodynamics , you cant make more power than you
       use.
       The solar collectors have an efficeincy of less than 100% of
       converting the energy, the motors are also are less than 100%
       efficient,
       It would be better if you just used a tracker to aim the panels,
       with mirrors, and then used an invertor to make AC.
       Sorry.
       As i go back and read the whole topic, sut got it right away.
       Hail sut.
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       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: Michael Anthony
       Date: August 6, 2015, 5:18 pm
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       I really dont think I am trying to get a free lunch with this
       device, I am simply using the power of the sun to turn a
       mechanical levered arm to produce more power from the center
       shaft. The math is very basic,  even factoring in 33percent
       mechanical losses, I should be able to double my input. There
       are now available low speed (50 rpm) low  torque Alternators
       15KW and up. A 15KW alternator would require about 26 HP to run
       at full load output.
       #Post#: 6067--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
   DIR By: ethan
       Date: August 6, 2015, 5:51 pm
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       The max power is at the output of the panels, after that its all
       downhill.
       Good luck.
       Dont spend too much on this, life is too short.
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