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       Full potential solar
       By: Michael Anthony Date: July 29, 2015, 7:59 am
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       I have often wondered if there isnt a better way to draw power
       from solar panels. There is a new company in Georgia, usa , that
       is incorporating mppt right into the panel itself. They claim
       that even if they have partial shading , they can still get a
       significant amount of energy from the panel. They also claim
       they can run a three phase electric motor directly from the
       panel! Well what if we take this a step further, and mount the
       panels on a rotating base of a large diameter and draw the power
       off the center shaft?
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       Re: Full potential solar
       By: sut Date: August 3, 2015, 7:28 am
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       As far as I know there is only 2 ways to wire them series or
       parallel  series increases volts parallel increases amps
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       Re: Full potential solar
       By: Michael Anthony Date: August 3, 2015, 8:43 am
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       Hi Sut: I was not talking about getting more power out versus
       the sun, but by means of mechanical advantage. Think of mounting
       the solar panels on a large merry-go-round, the panels on the
       outer perimeter would drive a/c motors attached to gear
       reducers. the whole inner circle would have panels that would
       charge batteries. And by using a low speed low torque alternator
       on the center shaft, one could take advantage of the huge
       mechanical leverage from the middle.
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       Re: Full potential solar
       By: Michael Anthony Date: August 3, 2015, 9:30 am
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       I have drawn a quick sketch of the device
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       Re: Full potential solar
       By: sut Date: August 4, 2015, 7:42 am
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       Ah! now I understand  but wouldn't the power being used to turn
       the unit be more than you could produce with the alt ?
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       Re: Full potential solar
       By: ethan Date: August 5, 2015, 8:18 am
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       Wouldnt it take less power to aim a mirror?
       #Post#: 6054--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Full potential solar
       By: Michael Anthony Date: August 6, 2015, 12:58 pm
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       HI SUT: Lets say we have a 22 ft. diameter platform, Ihave at my
       disposal 2,640 watts , there are 746 watts per horse power. So I
       have 3.5 HP to turn the platform. My target rpm is 60. So if I
       use a .75 HP motor ( 3 phase AC) with a gear motor attached to
       each motor. four equal places around the platform. My AC motors
       turn at 1750 rpm reducing that to 60 rpm  through the gear
       reducer gives me29:1 ratio. At the center shaft I will have a
       12" dia. sprocket, and on thr alternator a 1.5" dia. sprocket.
       so my mechanical advantage from outer edge of platform to the
       12" sprocket is 10 to 1. so if I can incorporate the full 3.5 HP
       at the outer edge, I will get 35 HP in the center. How many KW
       can I generate with 35 HP after mechanical losses? More than my
       initial input of 2640?
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       Re: Full potential solar
       By: ethan Date: August 6, 2015, 1:07 pm
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       I dont think youll gain anything by this setup. If i see the
       drawing correctly  , you have solar panels around in a circle,
       on a turntable, that rotates with the sun? Some are facing the
       other way? Why not face them all the same direction? Then have a
       small tracker on each mount?
       The mirrors would reflect the sun on the panels.
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       Re: Full potential solar
       By: Michael Anthony Date: August 6, 2015, 1:08 pm
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       HI Ethan: I dont quite follow about the mirror, where do I put
       the mirror?
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       Re: Full potential solar
       By: Michael Anthony Date: August 6, 2015, 1:15 pm
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       The  sun rotates the platform! Ethan If you have an 11Foot lever
       in your hands and your fulcrum is 1 foot in from the end, how
       much weight could you lift? At least a 1000 lbs right? Now
       instead of lifting suppose you push on the lever and your 1000
       lb. weight was on wheels?
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