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       Re: IT's ALL IN YOUR ATTITUDE
       By: lavaland Date: April 28, 2013, 3:38 pm
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       water ideas continued...
       a couple water ideas for toilets
       are any of you old enough to remember the old-time toilets which
       had the tank mounted high up on the wall above the bowl ?
       connected by a pipe and with a pull chain to operate the
       flapper. we discovered this fitting a toilet into a head(water
       closet on a boat). space is dear on a boat, heads are usually
       even smaller than those on a commercial jet. the typical bowl
       with tank combo takes up too much space as it pushes the bowl
       away from the wall to accommodate the tank. so we mounted the
       tank up in the corner of wall and ceiling, connecting it to the
       bowl by pipe with a gate valve. to flush, you open the gate
       valve. what we stumbled on was when opened fully and quickly,
       the torrent created by the gravity was more than needed to flush
       the biggest load. the water came roaring down the pipe creating
       a tumult in the bowl. we had to learn to limit the flush by
       opening the gate valve less than completely and slower. you
       learned by experience how far to open the valve and for how long
       to accomplish the needed flush. on the boat we had no shortage
       of water since we used the ocean water. but on land with limited
       water reserve, using this method, you have total control over
       the amount of water you use to accomplish the task at hand,
       using only as little as needed. but then i see the new American
       Standard toilets that flush the largest load successfully with
       only 1.2gal. that might be the way to go.
       also, for guys, get an old fashioned urinal with a manually
       operated valve. it only takes a short trickle of water to wash
       down the urinal after use. no need for a full flush.
       continued ...
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       Re: IT's ALL IN YOUR ATTITUDE
       By: lavaland Date: April 28, 2013, 3:40 pm
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       i keep running up against the 2000 character limit
       continued...
       then there is use of grey water from sinks and shower for
       landscape irrigation. but gotta be careful when using it on a
       food garden or smaller ornamentals as soap ingredients can
       overwhelm them. before the advent of 'green' awareness, when it
       was more difficult to find soaps, shampoos and cleaning products
       that are environmentally friendly, some people would collect
       grey water to a holding tank to let the phosphates and other
       ingredients settle to the bottom, drawing water for use in the
       garden from higher up the holding tank.
       gotta run. will check back later
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       Re: IT's ALL IN YOUR ATTITUDE
       By: admin Date: April 28, 2013, 4:09 pm
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       I changed the post limit to max 50,000.  Lets see how that goes.
       Also, do me a favor and start new topics that are specific to
       your idea or a particular technology so someday we can find the
       information.
       For example, a new topic dealing with grey water, or passive
       cooling.
       Nothing worse than looking for a great bit of information on
       catch basins and finding it in a topic called  "digging post
       holes"
       Thank You :)
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       Re: IT's ALL IN YOUR ATTITUDE
       By: lynx wind Date: April 28, 2013, 4:31 pm
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       Great ideas, thoughts and conversation.
       Raincatchers.org installs water catchments in Haiti and I donate
       $$$ to them.  All the money goes to the materials.  Very simple,
       spilt PVC tube, into a plastic hose and through a filter into a
       barrel.  Mount this high enough to maintain some gravity water
       pressure.
       If and when I get enough time I will make the North American
       Rocket stove for cooking and baking.  It takes 60 red bricks,
       some stove pipe and a few cut steel parts.  This could also be
       configured for home heating and water heating.  I will look up
       the link you mentioned to learn more.
       And then my ultimate dream is to get the time to make a small
       engine that will run off the rocket flame and power a small 200
       watt generator.  It is a hybrid between a stirling and a uniflow
       steam engine I call the McKenny Vapor Engine.  No boiler and no
       pumps.
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