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       #Post#: 14096--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: Kim Tyranto Date: February 15, 2021, 5:37 am
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       Unlikely to be in AS; she will be a Routen Band member long
       after AS...
       Her info will be set in some form of stone... IF... the PC works
       and her notes can be created...
       The Routen Band having 32 members at some point is fun... but no
       more than that... those surnames get pretty ridiculous just to
       keep the numerical theme... :-b
       #Post#: 14099--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: King (2.0) Date: February 15, 2021, 7:05 am
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       [quote author=RKS link=topic=473.msg14096#msg14096
       date=1613389067]
       Unlikely to be in AS; she will be a Routen Band member long
       after AS...
       Her info will be set in some form of stone... IF... the PC works
       and her notes can be created...
       The Routen Band having 32 members at some point is fun... but no
       more than that... those surnames get pretty ridiculous just to
       keep the numerical theme... :-b
       [/quote]
       So in Umbrageous Light perhaps?
       #Post#: 14102--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: Kim Tyranto Date: February 15, 2021, 8:12 am
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       UL takes place in the Dataverse (except the epilogue, revealing
       UL to be Lunadine Crimstaine's attempt to make a game while
       inebriated)...
       Sureya is from Gehengard (I hope the spelling is correct,
       @Cibryll ), which is not featured in any XSP work currently...
       I got the given name from a Turkish-translated-to-Afrikaans
       (maybe to English first) series... like how it sounds...
       "Sureya"...
       #Post#: 14107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: King (2.0) Date: February 15, 2021, 10:20 am
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       [quote author=RKS link=topic=473.msg14102#msg14102
       date=1613398353]
       UL takes place in the Dataverse (except the epilogue, revealing
       UL to be Lunadine Crimstaine's attempt to make a game while
       inebriated)...
       Sureya is from Gehengard (I hope the spelling is correct,
       @Cibryll ), which is not featured in any XSP work currently...
       I got the given name from a Turkish-translated-to-Afrikaans
       (maybe to English first) series... like how it sounds...
       "Sureya"...
       [/quote]
       I'm not too hot on the idea of Umbrageous Light being a video
       game made by a drunken Lunadine. However if you want it to be
       non-canon, you could have it take place in an alternate timeline
       where she breaks out of the Brainwashing Machine. Or if that
       doesn't work, you could make it work like Selenic Shadow where
       it's implied to be a dying dream of hers.
       #Post#: 14110--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: Kim Tyranto Date: February 15, 2021, 10:45 am
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       UL is canon because spoilers...
       [spoiler]
       (a) Ilina is a beta tester...
       (b) Savannah Nokorikaze is introduced in UL (Anegio's Castle
       Oblivion)...
       (c) the UL that Lunadine (Luna) made... it is implied that
       Savannah edited it from inside the game...
       Savannah can enter/exit the Dataverse (she was born outside of
       it, in Serenth)... she was nearly murdered by a serial killer,
       but fled into her computer (the killer had no idea about this
       ability)...
       She went to the Galaxynet (Serenth's Internet) and wound up in
       Luna's PC...
       Savannah is the female Elemental Royale of the Data element...
       who falls in love with the mysteriously crazier woman who was
       going to murder her, but as Savannah has no idea how to react to
       it... she acts crazy...
       [/spoiler]
       ... All that was Cibryll's doing... and some details may be
       incorrect as that is what I recall...
       #Post#: 14216--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: King (2.0) Date: February 19, 2021, 1:09 pm
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       [quote author=RKS link=topic=473.msg14110#msg14110
       date=1613407505]
       UL is canon because spoilers...
       [spoiler]
       (a) Ilina is a beta tester...
       (b) Savannah Nokorikaze is introduced in UL (Anegio's Castle
       Oblivion)...
       (c) the UL that Lunadine (Luna) made... it is implied that
       Savannah edited it from inside the game...
       Savannah can enter/exit the Dataverse (she was born outside of
       it, in Serenth)... she was nearly murdered by a serial killer,
       but fled into her computer (the killer had no idea about this
       ability)...
       She went to the Galaxynet (Serenth's Internet) and wound up in
       Luna's PC...
       Savannah is the female Elemental Royale of the Data element...
       who falls in love with the mysteriously crazier woman who was
       going to murder her, but as Savannah has no idea how to react to
       it... she acts crazy...
       [/spoiler]
       ... All that was Cibryll's doing... and some details may be
       incorrect as that is what I recall...
       [/quote]
       So it's canon? That's good. And I suppose it'd be nice for Ilina
       to get her own game considering her role in Lunar Shadow ZER0
       and Lunar Shadow.
       #Post#: 14219--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: Kim Tyranto Date: February 19, 2021, 1:57 pm
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       Problem: original Ilina still has no playable role... :-/
       Not in canon, not in fanon, not in non-canon...
       (Three different classifications for XSP works...)
       Her role in LSX is to be off-screen, being Tirahnys's eighth
       president...
       That said, there are plans for her and Selena Daria teaming up
       in 2015 (post-LS) to kill Mi'aro (he dies in April 2015, I
       think) so... she still has hope...
       (A dream team... a woman with three fairies, and an Elemental
       Royale of Light who is also an ex-president...)
       #Post#: 14224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: King (2.0) Date: February 20, 2021, 5:12 am
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       [quote author=RKS link=topic=473.msg14219#msg14219
       date=1613764633]
       Problem: original Ilina still has no playable role... :-/
       Not in canon, not in fanon, not in non-canon...
       (Three different classifications for XSP works...)
       Her role in LSX is to be off-screen, being Tirahnys's eighth
       president...
       That said, there are plans for her and Selena Daria teaming up
       in 2015 (post-LS) to kill Mi'aro (he dies in April 2015, I
       think) so... she still has hope...
       (A dream team... a woman with three fairies, and an Elemental
       Royale of Light who is also an ex-president...)
       [/quote]
       Ilina doesn't have to be canon. Perhaps if Selenic Shadow ever
       gets updated, it could have Ilina Horton and Shinica Horton as
       playable characters. If that doesn't work, perhaps the Lunar
       Shadow Memories series could make them playable.
       #Post#: 14226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: Kim Tyranto Date: February 20, 2021, 5:33 am
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       Ilina's existence is canon...
       Selenic Shadow was just to make sure Cibryll's skills did not
       rust (I worked on the majority of it, but had her do things as
       well)...
       Though now, both our skills are rusting away...
       Shinica would be playable in Selenic Shadow, but since we made
       it all up as we went along, it is hard to say for certain...
       The LSM trilogy have their own protagonists already...
       Original Ilina, original Ilina... how original are you to be
       playable...?
       (The best she currently has is being cosplayed by Kyaro in
       Apocalyptic Shadow... and the Umbrageous Light version of
       Ilina...)
       #Post#: 14232--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
       By: King (2.0) Date: February 20, 2021, 6:02 am
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       [quote author=RKS link=topic=473.msg14226#msg14226
       date=1613820823]
       Ilina's existence is canon...
       Selenic Shadow was just to make sure Cibryll's skills did not
       rust (I worked on the majority of it, but had her do things as
       well)...
       Though now, both our skills are rusting away...
       Shinica would be playable in Selenic Shadow, but since we made
       it all up as we went along, it is hard to say for certain...
       The LSM trilogy have their own protagonists already...
       Original Ilina, original Ilina... how original are you to be
       playable...?
       (The best she currently has is being cosplayed by Kyaro in
       Apocalyptic Shadow... and the Umbrageous Light version of
       Ilina...)
       [/quote]
       I never said her existence wasn't canon, I just said that her
       appearance in game didn't have to be canon. Ilina being a
       costume in Apocalyptic Shadow fits that description whereas Data
       Ilina would probably be a different character altogether
       depending on how UL plays out.
       Also it's funny that Selenic Shadow was created to test
       Cibryll's modding skills because that's how Gun started out.
       Regarding SeSh, I figured it was a dying dream world of sorts
       considering Selena Daria's dialogue, Grie'dyr: Thunder
       resembling one of the areas in Myst Zone and several of the NPCs
       appearing there.
       It's possible that Shinica may've been playable considering she
       has a full sprite sheet like Selena and Shinica but also has an
       alternate costume. Not sure how she would've factored into the
       story though considering Selena dies and Shinica's story is
       currently unknown.
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