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Ace Attorney
By: Ariana Date: November 6, 2016, 11:53 am
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Discuss it here!
The magatama would trigger if Phoenix asked a person if they had
amnesia and they said "yes" when in truth they didn't right?
But it wouldn't trigger if Phoenix asked the question and they
really have amnesia?
And if they can't remember something and a question is asked,
would that trigger Psycholocks?
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Re: Ace Attorney
By: KarjamP Date: November 6, 2016, 12:14 pm
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A) Pysche-locks appear whenever someone;s trying to hide
something in their hearts. Thus, it doesn't matter if they say
"Yes". As long as they're trying to hide somything, psyche-locks
will appear.
B) An amnesiac has nothing to hide. Thus, Psyche-locks will not
appear.
C) Psycho-locks is just what Mr. Edgeworth called it. They're
not separate from the main Psyche-lock. (Fun fact: they really
are called Psycho-locks in Japan.)
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Re: Ace Attorney
By: Ariana Date: November 6, 2016, 12:41 pm
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[quote author=KarjamP link=topic=297.msg6694#msg6694
date=1478456059]
A) Pysche-locks appear whenever someone;s trying to hide
something in their hearts. Thus, it doesn't matter if they say
"Yes". As long as they're trying to hide somything, psyche-locks
will appear.[/quote]Then I suppose… * five Psycho-Locks appear *
I'm going psycho. * stabs thread *
[spoiler]Sorry, I had to go there~[/spoiler]
[quote author=KarjamP link=topic=297.msg6694#msg6694
date=1478456059]B) An amnesiac has nothing to hide. Thus,
Psyche-locks will not appear.[/quote]Ah.
Are those red or black? The black ones being for things the
person are hiding without knowing it or something such?
[quote author=KarjamP link=topic=297.msg6694#msg6694
date=1478456059]
C) Psycho-locks is just what Mr. Edgeworth called it. They're
not separate from the main Psyche-lock. (Fun fact: they really
are called Psycho-locks in Japan.)
[/quote]Drew Misham also called them "Psycholocks" in Apollo
Justice (when Phoenix was involved).
I get why they got "Psycho" instead of "Psyche" though. The
pronunciations are almost similar.
I wonder if it's possible for someone who has a Magatama
themselves to have Psyche-Locks appear, only for them to realize
it and then break them all.
Like. Phoenix asks someone a question. Psyche-Locks appear. Said
someone notices these (carrying their own Magatama), and the
locks shatter because they decide to stop hiding something
inside their hearts.
…
Of course, if the Heartless travel through works to get those
hearts…
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Re: Ace Attorney
By: KarjamP Date: November 6, 2016, 10:59 pm
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I believe theh must be aware of it in some form or another in
order for them to gain black psyche-locks. Those people
underwent events so traumatizing, they unsubconciously lock it
deep inside their own hearts, effectively making it so that
they're keeping secrets even from themselves.
There had only ever beem two such examples of black psyche-locks
appearing. One, it was because the character in question was
apparently so paranoid about whatever he's doing, he's keeping
secrets even he's not aware of. The second was due to an
incredibly traumatizing event.
And I believe that incidemt in Apollo Justice may had been a
translation mistake.
And I actually doubt those aware of the Magatama's powers would
shatter their own psyche-locks just like that, especially not if
it's so,ething like around 5. The amount of psyche-locks
represent their resolve in keeping the secret. The higher thr
amount, the bigger the resolve. (And while a big resolve was
instantly shattered when Phoenix gave the one who has is an item
she really had wanted, this was played for laughs as it showed
just how badly she wanted it.)
Incidentally, the Magatama is not fool-proof. There's nothing
stopping a person from piling a lie right after their
psyche-locks had been shattered, passing it off as them no
longer hiding anything. This is exactly what The Phantom did in
Dual Destinies when he had inadvertantly triggered Phoenix's
Magatama.
In addition, if the person really does believe a falsehood deep
inside their hearts, even if said falsehood happens to be "they
did nothing wrong" {when they actually did}, they won't be
hiding anything and thus, won't trigger Phoenix's Magatama. This
is exactly why it didn't work at first when Phoenix tried to use
it on Matt Engarde - as a sociopath, complete with all that
implies, Matt really did believe he didn't commit murder {even
though it was him who ordered the killing in the first place}.)
#Post#: 6704--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ace Attorney
By: Ariana Date: November 7, 2016, 1:33 am
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[quote author=KarjamP link=topic=297.msg6700#msg6700
date=1478494770]
I believe theh must be aware of it in some form or another in
order for them to gain black psyche-locks. Those people
underwent events so traumatizing, they unsubconciously lock it
deep inside their own hearts, effectively making it so that
they're keeping secrets even from themselves.
There had only ever beem two such examples of black psyche-locks
appearing. One, it was because the character in question was
apparently so paranoid about whatever he's doing, he's keeping
secrets even he's not aware of. The second was due to an
incredibly traumatizing event.
[/quote]
Didn't Edgeworth also someone who went through a very
traumatizing event (the DL-6 incident, where his father was shot
and killed)?
So it's possible to break psyche-locks without even having a
Magatama?
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Re: Ace Attorney
By: KarjamP Date: November 7, 2016, 4:05 am
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If Phoenix had his Magatama then, he'd most likely see black
psyche-locks on Miles as well, so yes, it might be possible.
#Post#: 6709--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ace Attorney
By: Ariana Date: November 7, 2016, 4:28 am
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…
Wow.
…
I wish we get a game set before Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney,
but long after that Japan-exclusive game with Sherlock Holmes in
it!
Playing as Gregory Edgeworth (only available in Gyakuten Kenji 2
as a flashback case), Mia Fey (only two cases available so far,
which take place in the past anyway), Diego Armando (before he
got poisoned)…
I also wish there were games where the player gets to play as
Franziska. Or that she returns - if Larry and Maya could, then
why not Franziska too?
#Post#: 6711--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ace Attorney
By: KarjamP Date: November 7, 2016, 6:45 am
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You forgot Pearl Fey.
#Post#: 6712--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ace Attorney
By: Ariana Date: November 7, 2016, 7:06 am
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Pearl appeared in AA5 and AA6, though. Edgeworth as well.
#Post#: 6726--------------------------------------------------
Re: Ace Attorney
By: Ginevra Date: November 9, 2016, 5:08 am
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I guess I'd drink tea if I was a defense attorney in the Ace
Attorney world.
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