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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: Kerry Date: February 21, 2015, 3:23 pm
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I've never thought about it; but probably everything we do and
say has some religious significance.
I have been wondering lately if the rise in exorcisms is related
to the movie The Exorcist. It seems to me that the more people
thought about demon possession, the more it likely it is that
people would come under the influence of demons, real or
imagined.
Real or imagined? Where does the line get drawn? If a child
imagines a monster is under his bed, if that idea affects his
behavior, it's real in one way. Can we reasonably say that
the effects are real but the causes aren't?
I wonder at times just how much influence movies have on
behavior. It seems to me that when a gruesome movie comes out,
news stories begin to surface about people who are imitating it.
Is evil itself real? Perhaps in one way, no; but it seems real
enough in another way. The Bible mentions the imagination of
evil being a problem before the Flood.
Genesis 6:5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in
the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his
heart was only evil continually.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: February 22, 2015, 9:06 pm
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I guess that it can be observed that all human action has
religious significance in that all of it enters in some way
under divine judgement. If this is the case, then
story-telling, however seemingly trivial is not. It would then
seem that nothing in human life is trivial and all of it has
significance and valuation on the part of God as well as with
humans.
Even myths have meaning, though they may have an ultimate
significance apart from what humans attach to them. Perhaps one
could say that the story of each and every human life is part of
a larger story in the making by God. Symbolic and real, trivial
and important, all are merged in the same greater story . . .
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: October 27, 2015, 7:34 pm
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Good storytelling is to be had!
Good storytelling is to be found in the Jesse Stone movies that
come out on television. The series has actor Tom Selleck as
Jesse Stone, as a police chief of the fictional town of
Paradise, Massachusetts. There has been a new movie that has
come out on the Hallmark Channel on cable. It is called "Lost
in Paradise". The plot and characters are well developed and
memorable.
I recommend it to you all!
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: January 18, 2016, 1:42 pm
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Notes on the Hospirin
I thought I would note what the Hospirin are in respect to the
story thread, Authoring A Story Together. I thought I would do
this given there are, maybe, some lingering questions concerning
it. Jella and I had emailed each other about this story concept
and it is still largely indeterminate. The story concept is
Jella’s and Jella has the final say as to what the Hospirin are
and what I have put down here may be wrong. I wrote my entries
to the story based upon the following understanding:
Nomenclature. The term Hospirin refer to two things, an entity
or symbiont that has entered a particular being; or the
particular being to whom the entity or symbiont has entered, or
both, the host and symbiont taken together.
Appearance. By sight or smell, the entity is unknown at this
point. By touch, the entity feels soft, gel-like in texture,
about the size of pill or geltab. The Hospirin entity displaces
into two parts and two locations, one part located behind the
ear close to the neck and the other part located in the back of
the hand. The host does not feel the entity beyond a simple
physical awareness. There is no known physical annoyance or
discomfort at the presence of the entity. If the symbiont is
destroyed in the two locations, it is possible that it may
regenerate again in the host’s body from another metabolic
source or process.
Symbiotic Relationship. The relationship is not viewed as
parasitical in that shared benefits are exchanged between the
symbiont entity and its hominid host, a working mutualism. The
entity provides the infected host greater insight regarding the
host’s life experience. It is likely that the entity can enter
into a rationality that would not otherwise exist apart from the
host.
How The Symbiosis Occurs. There is no information regarding
this. It could be through ingestion such as drinking a fluid to
which the Hospirin entity inhabits. It could also be through
injection by an animal or large insect. It could occur at
random or be done deliberatively such as through a social or
religious ceremony.
Benefits To The Host. My impression of this is a heightened
sensitivity in respect to oneself and to others. It is a
biological working where the host and symbiont are seeking to
protect each other. The host becomes effectively an empath and
is highly pacifistic. The host’s subconscious is more active;
that is where the mind is thinking but whose thoughts have not
risen to conscious awareness. Visions and dreams become
important for the host. They help disclose the meaning of
things as revealed by the symbiont. Another benefit is that the
metabolism and health of the host is guarded by the entity.
There could be a subtle working of telekinesis in the healing of
the host by the symbiont, but if so, that it is a form of
telekinesis that might not be known as such by the host.
Benefits To The Symbiont. My impression is that the symbiont
has a working autonomous intellectual action and identity at
work in the host’s subconscious mind and that these thoughts do
not rise up into conscious awareness by the host’s mind. This
is not to say that the host’s body is composed of two different
minds and thought processes that are at war with each other but
that they parallel each other and work in harmony. The
symbiont, gifted with rationality, provides the host with wisdom
and technical knowledge available to the host since it has
access to the same memories and knowledge as the host, and may
be able to supply that information despite any temporary
limitation because of the host’s health or insight.
Unclear Matters Regarding The Hospirin. Jella specified that
the Hospirin do not have telepathy and so Eloette and Yvetta
portrayed do not have that power. Yvetta, though, does arrive
at the mountain under mysterious circumstances at the last part
of the narrative; and Eloette is deeply surprised that she has a
sister and that her sister has an aura of authority about her.
Yvetta is portrayed as clearly knowing about where her sister
was and so Yvetta’s presence needs to be explained . At that
point of the story I assumed that the Hospirin symbionts have
some way of recognizing the presence of other Hospirin, an
awareness of some type.
For the purposes of the story, I have identified this
awareness as a type of very limited passive telepathic awareness
that discloses location and possibly other information regarding
Hospirin about other Hospirin and that this reaches across the
vastness of space. Jella made it very clear that the Hospirin
do not listen into other person’s thoughts and that the Hospirin
do not have telepathy.. It is possible that this awareness is
known only to the symbiont directly and is only shared with the
host under certain circumstances. It is also possible that the
limited telepathic awareness may be indicative of other powers
as well; perhaps it could mean that the Hospirin have power to
block telepathic attacks, but this is unclear at this point.
This power would only be in the possession of the symbiont and
not present in the consciousness of the host given Jella’s
denial of conscious telepathy for the Hospirin. Also unclear is
the possibility of telekinesis in the protection of the host’s
metabolism and health by the symbiont.. If the telekinesis does
exist, it could mean that the Hospirin symbiont can block
telekinetic attacks and may even be able to make them at a short
distance, though the latter may call for the conscious awareness
of the host.
The above is my understanding of the Hospirin and is the working
basis I used in my part of the story. This dictated the
following:
Relationship of the Star People with the Hospirin. The Star
People are favorably disposed to the Hospirin because they have
identified them on the basis of their pacifism and their desire
to live in social harmony with nature, something that leads the
Star People to identify them as a benevolent species. Also,
they are favorable disposed given that there is the possible
Hospirin passive telepathy and possible telekinetic abilities
which can establish a kind of distant kinship to the Star
People.
The Hospirin do not trust the Star People and view them
unfavorably. If one sees how Yvetta so quickly asks Eloette to
come away from the Star People, whom she calls the outlanders,
it is indicative of the sense the symbiont feeling the threat of
possible danger by a species that has, at this point, for all
intents and purposes, weaponized psionics.
How The Hospirin Experience Themselves and Their World. The
person who has become a Hospirin experiences the world similar
to what had been before. I suppose that dreams and visions
would be very important. Given the symbiont relationship with
the host, that there would be a general seeking to live in
harmony with nature. There would be a social pacifism that
would be affirmed. I understand the Hospirin to have
paracognition which involves pre- and retro-cognition.
What Desh, of the Star People, Gave to the Hospirin. From the
understanding of the above, I understand Desh to have gifted the
Hospirin with heightened powers of being able to sense one
another through the vastness of space. Also, what was given
were heightened powers within the symbiosis which permits the
effective guarding of health and healing of the host. I, also,
envision Desh as giving heightened powers of pre-cognition and
retro-cognition to the Hospirin.
Desh had to make Yvetta, Eloette and Kaney unconscious because
they were not permitted by the authorities to be conscious as
the stellar bomb was being disarmed. So, instead of
telepathically stunning them, Desh decided upon healing them
which would call for a similar unconsciousness.
It is important to note at this point that the idea of the
Hospirin is Jella’s and that she has ownership of this story
idea even though it is not copyrighted, and so cannot be used
without her express permission.
I had experimented with the story idea for the Star People
involving a symbiont and was not able to make it work for me. I
attempted too much for it and failed miserably. The Star People
that I have envisioned are a very powerful species, too powerful
to make any symbiosis work. Jella’s idea works very well
because of its restraint in respect to the power of the
Hospirin. Jella wants to write a story of commonplace persons.
She is, fundamentally, uninterested in writing about a race of
superbeings.
Her story idea is a good platform for science fiction/fantasy.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: February 3, 2016, 8:05 pm
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I’ve been thinking about the thread and story Authoring A Story
Together, wondering what the civilization would be like for
Eloette, Kaney and Yvetta.
If one continues the story in imagination, one could imagine
them arriving at the space port for their planet and then going
off planet on an airliner space plane that has the same
anti-gravity propulsion as their privately owned transportation
platform that flew above the trees on the way to Yoatlara Peak.
I suppose that they would have had their airliner space plane
dock at a space station. At that point they would have boarded
a space liner that would take them to whatever place they wanted
to go. I suppose that it would have had hyper-drive power that
would be like much science fiction post 1950s and is typified by
such movies as Star Wars.
Creation of science fiction/fantasy involves the creation of
imagined worlds. I would tend to offer the following as an
imagined civilization that would be compatible with the Eloette
and Yvetta characters:
1.
civilization is low tech on its habitable planets that are
compatible with its species. It practices organic farming,
living in the environment that leaves a small signature of the
species in respect to the biospheres of each of the planets
inhabited. The civilization would be high tech and would do its
production and natural resource extraction on planets and
asteroid belts that lack a living biosphere.
2.
a highly technocratic society in which there is a need for great
social cooperation, there would not be the possibility of great
monied or privileged elites in most of the star systems of the
civilization. This is not to say that they do not exist because
they could exist in some star systems for various sociological
reasons.
3.
civilizations economy would be mixed, composed of both public
and private components. This would be necessary given that much
social production would not be able to be squandered in useless
financial speculation but to be devoted to highly expensive
ventures in space..
4.
planetary and space police forces but not weaponized starships
on a big scale. The civilization would recognize that
militarization would endanger the democratic polity.
In the story I imagined that the civilization would have maybe
20 or so habitable planets and about 300 or so other planets
that had been discovered and are available for production and
resource development.
I imagined that several of the early planets of this
civilization had been heavily polluted and are over-populated
and so the remaining planets are more carefully preserved
through legislation that seeks to keep them largely pristine and
healthy places to live. There is a migration of people from the
older planets of the civilization to the newer ones. This
causes some social disruption but is being done in such a way as
to make it a comfortable transition for most of the population
affected.
There would be the usual social conflicts that would exist in
this society that does appear in human society. I would expect
that it would be in more muted form given that a civilization in
space has to have had most of its great social conflicts solved
before going out into space. Thus there would be a kind of
utopian quality to the civilization that human civilization has
not yet arrived to.
Such as I imagine Eloette, Kaney and Yvetta’s civilization. It
has been interesting to think of it.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: March 8, 2016, 7:27 pm
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Story conflict is needed for story interest and development.
When one is developing characters for a story or is in a process
of story and character development in order to further the
story, there is the need to develop the conflicts and problems
for the characters to overcome. If this is not done, there is a
loss of interest in the story. The question arises as: what is
the story about if there is not something or someone to be
overcome?
In the story thread, Authoring a Story Together, I created as
adversaries for the Hospirin, The Pure Species League and the
blood-thirsty religious prophet, Kato Mana.
The blood-thirsty prophet, Kato Mana, is perhaps understandable
in an advanced society that has significant sociological
leveling, where there is no wealthy elites and so that religion
is proposed as a rule to subvert and overthrow the social
consensus with democratic government and values. It seems that
arguments about God and divine authority seem to be the only
arguments that endure in the face of democratic values and
rules.
The Pure Species League is something else again. It is not an
attack against democratic institutions directly. It is, rather,
an attack against the loss of social cohesion when an advanced
civilization has migrated out into space and has started to
inhabit other biospheres on alien planets within their control.
When a species would move out into space and occupies other
planets, it will leave its native biospheres and inhabit other
alien ones on new planets that are compatible with their
species, but this means biological change. The DNA will not
remain the same but be affected by each new biosphere and so the
unitary species that left its homeworld for space with become
multiple variants of the same species when they inhabit new
worlds. The Pure Species League is a sociological reaction to
this.
There are several theses to the above view:
1.
diversity cannot develop the needed social development that is
needed to becoming an interplanetary or interstellar society;
and,
2.
society cannot survive to be able to migrate out into space;
and,
3.
long-term goals and values cannot hope to survive.
Thinking about fiction and writing about it should lead to
thinking about how things should be as well as how they are.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: March 13, 2016, 3:51 pm
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A person had asked me why the Star People seem more powerful in
the Authoring A Story Together rather than in The River of No
Return. The reason for that are several. In the story The
River of No Return, the Star People originated on Earth thru a
melding with an alien sentient life form, the Maikorrceni,
composed of energy, or rather energemata, with the human
species. This melding does not mean a biological change to the
human species. It does not affect human DNA at all. But it
means a melding with the electromagnetic part of the human
being, either enhancing it and giving it either psionic or
anti-psionic power or not giving it anything. On Earth, the
Star People are limited in that they function in relation to
those that may damage or nullify their power, the anti-psi
people. Their power is, also, limited within the Solar System
and the Maikorrceni who have not melded with the human species
also protect normal humanity from any tyranny coming from the
Star People. This is a hidden reason why in the story The
River of No Return, the Star People are more constrained as to
what they can do.
In the story Authoring A Story Together, it was presupposed that
the civilization, that the Star People had not entered into,
lacked psionics within the society, with the possible exception
of the Hospirin. There was no melding of the Maikorrceni with
the human looking, humanoid species of Eloette, Kaney and
Yvetta. There were no psi and anti-psi personnel. It could be
assumed that there may be a possible biologically based
telepaths but these would be statistically uncommon. The Star
People in this civilization have none of the restrictions that
are present on Earth. They would have an over-arching power and
the ability to use it. In most instances, they are at minimum
ten times more powerful than what they would be on Earth.
Because of this, they have the aura of greater power because
they have that greater power. The best way of thinking of that
power is to compare it with other fictional beings. The Star
People would prevail in any conflict with the Star Wars Jedi
Knights/Sith, Aliens/ Predators, Riddick Furyans, and the Star
Trek Borg. The only fictional class of beings that could
overcome the Star People would be the Star Trek Q People. The Q
are much like demi-gods and, in the hierarchy of being, are a
step up from any melding of species such as the Maikorrceni with
humanity. The Q’s being and power are untrammeled since they
have no need to meld with any other living being.
As I think of it, it may have been a mistake to have the Star
People enter into the story as I did in the story Authoring A
Story Together. I should have had one of the Star People come
in as a character and carefully conceal what the character could
do. Given their great power they can smother the action in the
storyline as it develops and so I had to withdraw them at the
end of the story since they could deeply interfere with it.
As with all fiction, I hope everyone who reads the threads
understands how, through the imagination, we can experience the
world differently and can think of how things could have been if
there had been changes in our being in the world.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: April 12, 2016, 4:43 pm
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Given the concern about possible copyright violation, I have
removed the word tricorder from the story, Authoring A Story
Together, substituting sensor-trac. I envision that the
sensor-trac can provide sensory information regarding a
geographical area around the person using it and provide
information about flora and fauna. I do not envision it having
the medical functions that the tricorder can do as it is used in
Star Trek. The sensor-trac, though, can provide injury
information and can indicate dangerous disease conditions
regarding the person using it.
It is interesting in the craft of writing that some story ideas
are so basic that ownership of ideas can be questioned or
challenged. I thought I would close any basis for challenge in
any part of the story.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: April 18, 2016, 5:45 pm
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Kaney’s EM Pistol, A Description
In the story, Authoring A Story Together, I described the
character Kaney as having an EM pistol. This is a curious kind
of weapon that I thought should be described further. It helps
a person to understand how Science Fiction/Fantasy background is
developed by understanding how contemporary weapons work and
contemplating how future weapons may develop here on Earth.
To the dismay of Eloette, Kaney had an EM pistol, formidable
weapon in his possession. As a pacifist, she was surprised and
angry that he had something that could cause considerable
damage; and she had good reason to think that way.
The fictional weapon, the EM pistol, is an electromagnetic
pistol. It does not shoot bullets through the use of an
explosive powder, but rather through an electromagnetism of the
pistol barrel which causes a bullet to shoot out of the barrel
at very high rate of velocity. As a matter of course, these
pistols lack a slide mechanism and do not discharge spent
propellant casings.
The pistol itself is composite metal and polymer construction.
The upper frame of the pistol is made of metal; and, on the
inside in the front of the barrel housing, there is the barrel
that can be changed out. Behind it and above the magazine is
the EM module which, when the trigger is pulled, through
electromagnetism, it will snap a boat tail shaped bullet out of
the magazine and fire it through the barrel. The person using
the weapon will hear a loud snapping sound when the weapon is
fired. The bullet itself will make a loud sound or report as
well because it because of its velocity, especially if its
velocity is supersonic. The polymer construction of the pistol
would include everything below the top frame. This would
include the grip, the trigger, the trigger guard and the
magazine.
There are three velocity settings for this pistol, dictating how
fast the bullet shall be fired; the settings are known as (1),
(2) and (3). There is Subsonic velocity(1): 1000 feet per
second/305 meters; Supersonic velocity(2): 1200 feet per
second/366 meters; and Supersonic velocity(3): 1400 feet per
second/423 meters. The velocity will usually dictate the
potential power of penetration of the projectile. Damage, of
course, would also be dictated by the type of bullet selected.
The bullets themselves are what humans call either hardball or
hollow-point boat tail ammunition. The pistol Kaney was
carrying had a barrel for 10mm ammunition. Kaney had the option
of changing out the barrel for using a smaller caliber, the 9mm
bullet. But he had not done so. The bullets themselves are of
varying weight. Kaney was using bullets that had the following
weights: for the 10mm bullet, the weight would be 155 grain; the
weight of the 9mm bullet, which he had an option for using,
would be 135 grain.
The boat tail bullets would have been loaded into thin spring
magazines that would be inserted into the butt of the handle of
the pistol. Kaney had a magazine for his 10mm ammunition that
contained a load of 24 bullets. Since the bullets lack
gunpowder casings, more bullets can be carried than what could
be carried in a conventional similar-sized pistol on Earth.
Since there is no discharge of gunpowder, EM pistols are quieter
than pistols used on Earth. Shooting bullets through an EM
pistol on the subsonic velocity setting would make the pistol
very silent. For Kaney’s civilization, this mode setting for
the EM pistol would be culturally known as the ‘silencer’
setting. Because of their mechanical simplicity, these pistols
would not jam as Earth-style gunpowder pistols would.
This EM pistol is multi-functional. It not only fires bullets,
but if the bullet barrel is changed out and replaced by an EM
directed energy beam barrel, and the bullet magazine is replaced
by an EM battery magazine, the EM pistol will be able to shoot
directed energy beams that could stun a person. The pistol that
Kaney was using was only classed for stun but there are models
in Kaney’s civilization that could have a kill capability with
this function.
The EM pistol that has this function active, emits a beam that
is, simultaneously, an infrared and microwave pulsed energy beam
that will kinetically strike and stun a biological target
causing pain and temporary paralysis. The beam is not a plasma
energy type; it does not heat a target or disintegrate its
atomic structure. In Kaney’s non-militarized civilization, the
need for such plasma energy weapons would not exist.
Something to think about is if there is a real need for directed
beam weapons. There are many people, I understand, who think
that energy beam weapons will appear in this century and be used
as a control measure against civilian populations that are
conventionally armed or unarmed. It is sobering to think that
someday populations will be able to be controlled without
killing them.
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Re: Thoughts Regarding The Stories and Storytelling
By: HOLLAND Date: March 15, 2017, 9:05 am
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It is interesting to think of how President Trump is going to
affect the detective and thriller genres of fiction in America
and in the rest of the world. Since the 1990s, there has been
evidenced a great mistrust of government by writers working in
these genres. Stephen Hunter and Joseph Garber would be good
examples of this. Now it could involve incompetence in
government, where a fictional detective or spy encounters
trouble due to gross unfitness, even stupidity. This affect
could also extend into the science fiction/fantasy genres as
well.
I’ve been thinking that I would not be able to do The River of
No Return with the story plotted in 2017. There would be no
cooperation in matters regarding law enforcement and in
diplomacy. As I envision my fictional world, I would think that
the Star People as well as the anti-psi American forces and
institutions would not accept Donald Trump as having the
necessary temperament to be able to hold the secrets regarding
the psionic/anti-psionic world. Trump is too much within an
alternative reality, too much absorbed and self-aborbed in his
appetites to be able to keep what could be considered incredibly
dire secrets. Also, given that he has surrounded himself with
Alt Right people, who are at war with the Deep State, that part
of government that has power that works itself secretly within
American society, he would be disposed to be hostile to secret
institutions in general, and to a race of supposed superbeings.
I suppose if I did a story posited for occurring in late 2016
and early 2017, it would consist of having Mack Stemple putting
mind locks on Trump and whatever associates that he has that
would be considered dangerous to the psi/anti-psi world. In my
fictional world a mind lock is a telepathic control of another
persons mind. This would be done with the sanction of the
anti-psi security forces of America and would be telepathically
witnessed by them. The mind lock would prevent inquiry into the
anti-psi security forces and their possible exposure and
defunding. The structure of the anti-psi forces would remain as
they were in the time of Obama. The only major difference is
that the Department of State would not be read into the secrecy
because Secretary Tillotson has fired so many career diplomats
and has shown himself to be too incompetent for the Star People
to deal with. American diplomacy with the Star People would be
done informally though one of the fired diplomats.
I’ve only posited this kind of government relation of the Star
People with human society with those societies being, largely,
third-world in character. It is odd to think that in creating
and working with a fictional world, I have come to a point that
I could consider America a third-world country. Perhaps it is.
It’s sobering to think about it.
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