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Worldly Christians.
By: meshak Date: December 30, 2014, 6:32 pm
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They are not interested in being faithful to Jesus' teachings.
They don't even know what Jesus teaches.
They like to pretend they are true and saved Christians.
They like their elitism doctrines to differentiate others who
don't agree with them, and argue about it.
Their behavior is the same as the world even though Jesus says
they are salt and light of the world.
Above all, they spread hate spirit to the world by approving to
join the military and practice being the police of the world
even though Jesus says to love your enemy.
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: meshak Date: December 31, 2014, 8:43 am
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There are too many ugly truth that most churches don't like to
address, and doing their best to hide under the rugs.
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: Amadeus Date: December 31, 2014, 10:03 am
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[quote]Meshak: They are not interested in being faithful to
Jesus' teachings.[/quote]
[font=courier]The difficulty for a person, who does not know all
of Jesus' teachings and doesn't know what is wrong with what he
believes he knows, is criticizing specifics too harshly when the
"beam" may be in their own eye. If the person really has a lack
of interest (love of the truth) in the truth which Jesus is,
then he does have a problem. Some people, I believe, have a
'love of truth' but are in error in some the truth that they
believe that they have. [/font]
[quote]Meshak: They don't even know what Jesus teaches.[/quote]
[font=courier]Ignorance can be a problem for every one of us,
but we are sincerely searching regularly to improve ourselves,
our ignorance is better than the ignorance of a person who
doesn't bother to search for anything or to ask for help as
needed.[/font]
[quote]Meshak: They like to pretend they are true and saved
Christians.[/quote]
[font=courier]Likely this is so for some people, but I would be
very slow to point a finger at an individual or a group without
something definite from God on it. [/font]
[quote]Meshak: They like their elitism doctrines to
differentiate others who don't agree with them, and argue about
it.[/quote]
[font=courier]Again, very likely there are some or even many who
fall into the category you describe, but I would move slowly
toward any complete condemnation.[/font]
[quote]Meshak: Their behavior is the same as the world even
though Jesus says they are salt and light of the world.[/quote]
[font=courier]Yes, for too many this is likely so, but again be
very careful about pointing too quickly.[/font]
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: Kerry Date: December 31, 2014, 11:05 am
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=940.msg9807#msg9807
date=1419985956]
They don't even know what Jesus teaches.[/quote]They know
enough. They surely know the Golden Rule, that we should treat
others the way we would like them to treat us. Even if people
haven't read the Bible or even heard of Jesus, they should know
this. There are non-Christians who know and teach this rule.
People who have Bibles and know Jesus said this really can't be
let off the hook then if they aren't obeying the Golden Rule.
They need to take a look at themselves and see if they like
themselves. Sometimes I think some people who go to church
don't like themselves that much. They know how they are, and
they know they don't like it; but they seem to think if they go
to church and others see them as "good," that will make them
feel better. I don't think that works, not really. It makes
them feel a little better; but it's not fixing anything. It's
like taking pills when you have a thorn stuck in your foot --
sure the pills may make the pain less, but it will return unless
you do something about the thorn. You could take pills and
pills and more pills and never get around to getting the thorn
out. You could get addicted to the pills; and people can get
addicted to religion too since it makes them feel "better" about
themselves; and if it isn't really making them into better
people, it's an addiction.
It's also sad that some people start attending church because
they know they could be better people and want to be; but when
they get to church, they aren't told how to live lives that
would make them into better people. Indeed sometimes the people
in the pews are better people than the people in the pulpits.
How sad then for the the people in the pews who want to become
better but are following people who are crooks, liars, and
perverts People need to wake up and stop following religious
leaders who don't care about other people but who care about
money, sex, and power.
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: meshak Date: December 31, 2014, 1:28 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=940.msg9825#msg9825
date=1420045542]
They know enough. [/quote]
they may know but they don't love Him enough to honor His word.
IOW, they are giving Him a lip service.
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: meshak Date: December 31, 2014, 1:31 pm
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[quote author=Amadeus link=topic=940.msg9823#msg9823
date=1420041839]
[font=courier]Yes, for too many this is likely so, but again be
very careful about pointing too quickly.[/font][/quote]
You may not see it clearly but I see it clearly.
If you are not certain about it, you should not say about it.
What they are producing is not true Christianity.
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: Arsenios Date: January 10, 2015, 2:20 pm
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[quote=Meshak]
They are not interested in being faithful to Jesus' teachings.
They don't even know what Jesus teaches.
They like to pretend they are true and saved Christians.
They like their elitism doctrines to differentiate others who
don't agree with them, and argue about it.
Their behavior is the same as the world even though Jesus says
they are salt and light of the world.
Above all, they spread hate spirit to the world by approving to
join the military and practice being the police of the world
even though Jesus says to love your enemy.[/quote]
What a bunch of terrible, flesh and blood people!
Sounds like they belong in Hell, Meshak!
Should we attack them for their evil deeds?
Or is there another way to help them?
Arsenios
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: meshak Date: January 10, 2015, 6:18 pm
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[quote author=Arsenios link=topic=940.msg10004#msg10004
date=1420921237]
Or is there another way to help them?
Arsenios
[/quote]
They are not interested in being true to Jesus. Jesus'
teachings are not complicated at all.
My mission for my Lord is to inform the world that what we see
in the world is not true Christianity.
All they have to do is to read Jesus' word. All church people
own the Bible, don't they? Jesus teaches simply and clearly. I
nor anyone else can teach like Jesus.
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: Arsenios Date: January 11, 2015, 12:14 am
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[quote=Meshak]
They are not interested in being true to Jesus. Jesus'
teachings are not complicated at all.[/quote]
Then condemn them all to hell and criticize them...
THAT is the Christian way I say...
Hate them and expose them you will be doing God's will, yes?
[quote] My mission for my Lord is to inform the world that what
we see in the world is not true Christianity.[/quote]
Well then, there is NO Christianity on earth, because ALL
Christianity can be seen, including you...
[quote] All they have to do is to read Jesus' word.
All church people own the Bible, don't they?
Jesus teaches simply and clearly.
I nor anyone else can teach like Jesus.[/quote]
Some things are simple and clear...
Some are not...
The Church did not start with a Book...
The Apostles preached out of the Old Testament...
Of its fulfillment in Christ...
Christ commanded the Apostles to DISCIPLE all the Nations...
He did not command them to read the New Testament...
Christ's Church is still upon the earth...
The Gates of Hell shall not prevail over it...
And yes, Christianity is in grave decline... :'(
Arsenios
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Re: Worldly Christians.
By: meshak Date: January 11, 2015, 12:33 pm
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[quote author=Arsenios link=topic=940.msg10014#msg10014
date=1420956885]
Then condemn them all to hell and criticize them...
THAT is the Christian way I say...
Hate them and expose them you will be doing God's will,
yes?[/quote]
If informing the world that what they see is not true
Christianity is condemning, then so be it. Do you realize you
are condemning me for my spreading my conviction? Who are you to
slander His servant who are doing what the HS telling her to do?
[quote]Well then, there is NO Christianity on earth, because ALL
Christianity can be seen, including you... [/quote]
You just don't seem to realize there are some faithful and true
servants are out there. The majority is the wicked one who are
disgracing Jesus with their wicked and corrupt faith. And you
are one of enablers of wicked churches.
shame on you.
You are redundant, I will skip the rest.
BTW, I don't worry your slandering my mission for the Lord. You
are not my Lord, dear. Jesus is with me everyday.:) You cannot
intimidate me with your criticism. It is nothing new. I get it
on daily bases.
blessings.
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