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       Commodities
       By: coldwar Date: December 7, 2014, 12:09 pm
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       What is the world's most precious commodity? Oil, silver, gold??
       I believe it is the human race. Somebody might say "duh" to
       this, while somebody else might say "huh?"
       I had difficulty believing this - it took a word from God to
       straighten me out. I then realized that I need to stop watching
       TV news, because it is there, within a half hour time-frame,
       they throw out every man-made tragedy for every given day, and
       then they repeat it over and over and over.
       Naturally, with 7 Billion of us now inhabiting this planet,
       there's bound to be humanitarian catastrophe, and much evil
       among people everywhere - but we should be reminded of our true
       value in spite of all this. When I reflect on the words of some
       good old Christmas Carols like "Hark the Herald Angels Sing", I
       think how the writers of those songs actually got it!
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       Re: Commodities
       By: Runner Date: December 7, 2014, 4:31 pm
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       Good thoughtful post Dave.  After people, I think WATER.
       I so agree with you on " The News."   It is two years since I
       watch what they call the News...it's all bad news!!
       I started to 'get a clue' when I read Frank Peretti's book 'The
       Prophet' about TV News
       That was the first time my eyes were opened to it being "a
       sensational show" and a grab to catch audiences, true or
       not...it is all about "the spin".
       I read the book years ago..but only two years ago gave up on the
       news. It depressed me.
       8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever
       things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things
       are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of
       good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise,
       think on these things.
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       Re: Commodities
       By: HOLLAND Date: December 8, 2014, 6:54 am
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       Interesting that commodities is the title of the thread.
       Overpopulation seems to lead to the diminishment of the labor
       value, and, ultimately, economic power of the average person.
       Given how one relates to society is based upon one's labor,
       there must be an eventual loss of humanity.
       Perhaps this was what it was like in Christ's time, the
       population supply of the Roman Empire reached a certain point,
       it was disposable and so treated accordingly by its rulers.
       Overpopulation + Commodity value of human life = diminishment of
       labor value = loss of humanity (slavery or death)?  Something to
       think about.
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       Re: Commodities
       By: Runner Date: December 8, 2014, 9:29 am
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       Hi there
       Personally I think the Overpopulation thing is a bunch of old
       crock. There is no overpopulation of the earth.  Even in England
       from where I come there are thousands and thousands of acres of
       beautiful green fields and forrests. People have overpopulated
       the towns and cities..but the world itself is still pretty much
       empty on every continent.
       I think we have been sold a lemon. Just like oil, which here in
       Calgary Alberta they cap the oil wells, then says 'we have
       none'. Any shortage of wheat, livestock etc...is all man made.
       I believe there is enough oil in the world to last til Jesus
       comes.
       But...that is just how I see things. :)
       There are too many people behind the curtain pulling the strings
       and moving the pawns around the board...and we fall for their
       stories every time.
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       Re: Commodities
       By: Brad Date: December 8, 2014, 9:44 am
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       ^Yes, definatley there are people pulling strings and trying to
       make it look like someone else is doing the definable statements
       of those in power.   Sometimes its someone in the government,
       and sometimes someone in business's.   Wherever power bases
       exist there are puppet masters with leadings from satan to bring
       about the downfall of mankind in return for personal power.
       But hasnt it always been so?   Has it changed more so, or is it
       just that the media picks up on it more, but only against the
       puppet masters of the other camp?
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       Re: Commodities
       By: Kerry Date: December 8, 2014, 1:12 pm
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       If I was a rich person running an international  corporation and
       I could replace all the human jobs with robots, I could make
       things cheaper than anyone else since I wouldn't have to pay
       workers.   People would buy my things since they were cheaper,
       so I could put the competition out of business.    I could
       charge less for my things and still make more money than the
       people with human workers.
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       Re: Commodities
       By: Mike Date: December 23, 2014, 7:02 pm
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       I think the greatest 'commodity' is contentment, and the
       greatest 'red herring' is so called 'growth'.
       But the truth of that requires a deeper treatise on economics
       and the evil of 'capitalism' than I care to attempt right now.
       Suffice it to say that 'growth' ignores the fact that it can
       only be at the expense of whoever is at the bottom of the chain
       (usually some poor inhabitant of what we call a 'third world'
       country)
       Capitalism means identifying an unsatisfied need and charging
       vastly more than its cost in order to satisfy that need.
       That's 'greed' in direct opposition to 'contentment'.
       Think it through.
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       Re: Commodities
       By: coldwar Date: December 24, 2014, 6:38 am
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       Good thoughts all --- I especially like what you said about
       contentment Mike; our flesh is constantly wanting more, and that
       is a battle I personally have yet to win. Yet I am surprised
       that just because I called this "Commodities", it put you all in
       the trench of "Economics" in one way or another (less so you
       Helen). The power of a single word, eh?
       I said the "human race" because God is constant in His
       requirement of paying the cost of redemption -
       Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and
       gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you:
       this do in remembrance of me.   20 Likewise also the cup after
       supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which
       is shed for you.
       Rev. 11:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness,
       and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings
       of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our
       sins in his own blood,  6 And hath made us kings and priests
       unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever
       and ever. Amen.
       --- we must be of great value - the very greatest!
       Since I too have stopped watching TV news, I had no idea that
       Malaysia is having extreme monsoon flooding, and my best friend,
       who is a teacher over there, along with his wife, lost
       everything they own, with water right up to the roofs of a lot
       of houses, including theirs. But they are safely here in Canada
       for the holidays, so they're OK.
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