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       Done/Finished/Accomplished !?
       By: twinc Date: November 25, 2014, 2:54 pm
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       It seems most Christians, refuse to simply believe and simply
       accept [Jn.20:31] and still query "what must I do to be saved" -
       any comments - I am posting this before going on holiday
       tomorrow for 10days - so be quick if you want to know more about
       'the real good news" - twinc
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       Re: Done/Finished/Accomplished !?
       By: coldwar Date: November 26, 2014, 5:49 pm
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       "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the
       Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life
       through his name."
       It creates a bit of a problem if a person's believing is based
       solely on what was written. After all, the Church itself forbid
       the reading of what was written by making it only available in
       Latin. Also, there are still people in our world who've never
       had the opportunity to read what was written, for a multitude of
       reasons.
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       Re: Done/Finished/Accomplished !?
       By: twinc Date: November 26, 2014, 9:09 pm
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       [quote author=coldwar link=topic=913.msg9605#msg9605
       date=1417045791]
       "But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the
       Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life
       through his name."
       It creates a bit of a problem if a person's believing is based
       solely on what was written. After all, the Church itself forbid
       the reading of what was written by making it only available in
       Latin. Also, there are still people in our world who've never
       had the opportunity to read what was written, for a multitude of
       reasons.
       [/quote]
       it seems you really have a problem simply believing - this was
       foreseen and allowed for - you read it so how about reading it
       to some one who cant read or at least tell it[preach it] - Jesus
       knew full well that it is very difficult if not impossible for
       adults to just simply simply believe but children simply simply
       believe - so you have a problem - must dash or I will miss my
       flight - twinc
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       Re: Done/Finished/Accomplished !?
       By: HOLLAND Date: February 3, 2015, 7:26 am
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       Perhaps twinc we are in the place of the person who wanted his
       child healed.  We are always saying "I do believe, help my
       unbelief."  We lack that which is most needful, or at least we
       perceive it as such, and maybe it is what is the case.  Jesus
       says, "Apart from me you can do nothing."  So it is the case as
       observed by Martin Luther, we are all beggars in the faith . . .
       Peace be with you!
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