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epitome of self righteousness
By: meshak Date: August 31, 2014, 4:54 pm
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It is mainstreamers self claim of "saved and true Christian".
No one gets to judge anyone's salvation, even trinity
believers. It is Jesus who judges we are saved or not.
It is blasphemy to usurp Jesus' authority.
It is also epitome of self-righteousness when you claim
yourselves to be true and saved Christian.
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: Runner Date: August 31, 2014, 7:11 pm
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Hi there Meshak. Interesting post.
What do you think of this scripture?
1 John 5:13 (KJV)
13 "These things have I written unto you that believe on the
name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal
life, and that ye may ( continue to) believe on the name of the
Son of God."
Back in 1964 when I gave my life to the Lord ( and am still
trying to keep it 'given' and not take it back and run it
myself) When I doubted as newly converted Christian often do. I
was given this scripture above...and it took away all doubt and
gave me confidence that my salvation wasn't a "hope so"
salvation but some that could be counted upon.
Anyway, thats just my experience. :)
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: meshak Date: August 31, 2014, 8:35 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=854.msg8913#msg8913
date=1409530317]
Hi there Meshak. Interesting post.
What do you think of this scripture?
1 John 5:13 (KJV)
13 "These things have I written unto you that believe on the
name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal
life, and that ye may ( continue to) believe on the name of the
Son of God."
Back in 1964 when I gave my life to the Lord ( and am still
trying to keep it 'given' and not take it back and run it
myself) When I doubted as newly converted Christian often do. I
was given this scripture above...and it took away all doubt and
gave me confidence that my salvation wasn't a "hope so"
salvation but some that could be counted upon.
Anyway, thats just my experience. :)
[/quote]
Jesus' followers have hope of being saved if we are true to Him.
I think I am true to Him but this is my own judgment. I don't
know how Jesus will see me. I hope Jesus will tell me "job well
done".
blessings.
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: Brad Date: August 31, 2014, 10:32 pm
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If you are in communion with the Lord through the Holy Spirit,
you will know when you are in the Lords will and when you are
not. Its really simple, but reading and knowing scripture is
only good to use as the acid test of whose spirit speaks to you.
Sometimes it might be a lying spirit. If you are following
the Lords will, you will know through that communion, and if you
die in that communion, you will be saved. No fear!
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: meshak Date: September 1, 2014, 7:14 am
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[quote author=Brad link=topic=854.msg8921#msg8921
date=1409542320]
If you are in communion with the Lord through the Holy Spirit,
you will know when you are in the Lords will and when you are
not. Its really simple, but reading and knowing scripture is
only good to use as the acid test of whose spirit speaks to you.
Sometimes it might be a lying spirit. If you are following
the Lords will, you will know through that communion, and if you
die in that communion, you will be saved. No fear!
[/quote]
I don't have fear, friend. But I would not claim to be true and
saved Christian.
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: Runner Date: September 1, 2014, 9:08 am
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[quote]Quote Meshak..
I don't have fear, friend. But I would not claim to be true and
saved Christian.
[/quote]
Bless you Meshak.
Psalm 107 says...
2 "Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom He hath redeemed
from the hand of the enemy."
It is very obvious that you love the Lord and you serve Him.
So why would you not be wish to testify in the face of our
Enemy, that the Lord has saved you, and you are fully His?
Nothing annoys the Enemy more than God's people boldly claiming
that through Jesus Christ they have been redeemed from the hand
of the Enemy!
When you wake up in the morning, the enemy should be saying..'Oh
dear there is Meshak awake, one of God's proclaimers of victory'
:)
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: Brad Date: September 1, 2014, 9:25 am
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=854.msg8926#msg8926
date=1409573698]
I don't have fear, friend. But I would not claim to be true and
saved Christian.
[/quote]
Do you think any of the apostles were true and saved?
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: meshak Date: September 1, 2014, 10:45 am
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[quote author=Brad link=topic=854.msg8930#msg8930
date=1409581550]
Do you think any of the apostles were true and saved?
[/quote]
Most of them were. they died for Him.
Most of us are so lukewarm including me of course. I doubt we
are true and saved.
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: meshak Date: September 1, 2014, 10:53 am
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=854.msg8927#msg8927
date=1409580532]
[size=12pt]Bless you Meshak.
Psalm 107 says...
2 "Let the redeemed of the Lord say so, whom He hath redeemed
from the hand of the enemy."
So why would you not be wish to testify in the face of our
Enemy, that the Lord has saved you, and you are fully His?
[/quote]
Jesus taught me to be humble. And I truly appreciate His
teachings and commands. That's why I spread to follow Jesus. His
teachings are not focused in the mainstream churches'
evangelism.
Salvation is all about peace and love of man kind. Jesus teaches
us how to love one another.
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Re: epitome of self righteousness
By: Brad Date: September 1, 2014, 10:43 pm
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=854.msg8932#msg8932
date=1409586327]
Most of them were. they died for Him.
Most of us are so lukewarm including me of course. I doubt we
are true and saved.
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Why would you believe they were saved? Did their works save
them? How can you even trust that anyone be saved except
Christ Himself? Jesus only said He had keep them safe except
for Judas, but that only applied to their earthly existence to
carry the gospel message to all the world. It is only faith
that lets you think its true for the apostles at least perhaps.
Its only some words in books and tradition that gives us their
works. Its faith there as well. Its faith in every aspect of
what we believe, and yet you would rather assume lukewarmness
and evil in many. Despite the evil of Jesus's time on earth,
he found more time to love the broken, and only encouraged them
to try better. His anger usually only fell on the religious
leaders who were leading the people badly and sought earthly
riches more than heavenly ones. Would you consider us all and
yourself to be the equivalent of a pharisee of old? Thats
pretty heavy judgement!
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