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Linux
By: coldwar Date: December 9, 2013, 5:55 pm
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"I have lots of disk space but I seldom download things. I use
some sites that have several versions available as well as the
original languages."
If you have lots of space, you can install Linux and still keep
Windows all on the one disk, in what's called "dual-boot" (you
get to select which system you want to run when you first turn
your computer on. At one time, linux was for the real computer
enthusiast "geek" - you had to have a lot of knowledge to set it
up, but now it's the other way around - Windows has become far
more difficult and Linux is super easy to install and use. It
has it's own "store" of applications, and the Xiphos bible is
one of them - once you get Linux installed, you simply go to the
Software Center and click "install", and that's it! The biggest
advantage of Linux is security - it's absolutely bullet-proof -
no viruses or malware exists for it (people don't bother) - your
computer will become totally unrecognisable to hackers. Other
advantages:
-much more efficient, runs faster and cleaner - very little
background programs are running.
-Linux can "see" every file you have stored on Windows, but not
vise-versa. As you create new files, it'll allow you to continue
storing them under Windows, so they'll be there when you re-boot
your computer to Windows if you ever need to. or, you have the
option to store new files )or copy your old ones) over to the
Linux side.
-it's so fast and efficient, it'll breath new life into an older
computer.
-Programs or the system itself will never crash - if something
goes wrong it's because you've hit a bad website.
-Unless you have a real odd-ball computer, everything will
configure itself - the system will be totally ready to use right
after you install it
-Linux business model is "Open Source" originated in Europe. -
money is made by installation of large systems in corporations
and government, leaving single end users everything free of
charge.
-never slows down or needs maintenance (other than updates which
are extremely well administered, but never interrupt what you're
doing)
-Office Programs are totally Microsoft Compatible now
-Excellent Applications available for multi-media and games if
you're into that.
-user interface is much more user friendly - allows you to run
different things on different "screens", but really you're still
using just a single monitor.
-totally free to download and install the whole system and all
applications
Disadvantages - only one - Linux is not compatible with some
Printers and Scanners, especially Canon products. Others, like
Epson and HP are fine.
There are hundreds of Linux variants to choose from, from two
main streams - RedHat / Fedora, and Debian. Debian is easier to
use for ordinary people like us - I've tried a lot of their
variants, but the best by far in my opinion is Xubuntu - it's
almost like turning your PC into a Mac. It is "Ubuntu" with a
more streamlined and user-friendly desktop.
I'm providing all this info for the sake of everyone here, and
if you need further help or advice regarding giving Linux a try,
I can answer most questions - I've been using it for years.
#Post#: 6429--------------------------------------------------
Re: Linux
By: Kerry Date: December 9, 2013, 6:10 pm
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I think my computer is a Dell that can't be partitioned. I
have a version of Red Hat on a CD, and I could run that if I
wanted to boot up used the CD every time. Too much work.
Windows is a dreadful system; but I think we're going to be
stuck with it until there is a major internet breakdown
associated with it.
PS: If you want me to divide this thread into two threads, let
me know. I can split it so our commentary back and forth
isn't interrupting the flow of your ideas as you move forward.
#Post#: 6430--------------------------------------------------
Re: Linux
By: coldwar Date: December 10, 2013, 7:40 am
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Sure - why not create a "room" called "Computing and Tech" or
something like that, and start a thread in there called "Linux"?
As for Dell's that can't be partitioned, yeah - my wife got one
of those - I couldn't install XUbuntu side by side with Windoze,
but, as she has no hardware issues at all, I simply installed
XUbuntu on the whole partition, wiping out Windows altogether
(although I made a system backup of it first on an ext. drive).
She's never complained.
Dave
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Re: Linux
By: Kerry Date: December 11, 2013, 12:04 am
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I "inherited" a laptop once when a relative of a relative died.
My niece got the laptop; and she took Windows off it and tried
to install Linux. She knows a lot about computers; but for some
reason, this laptop malfunctioned terribly. I tried to sort
things out. I had a friend who tried to sort things out. It
never did work right.
I suspected that Windows had done something to some settings
that prevented it from operating on Linux right. I also wondered
if it may have had a hardware problem. In the end, I gave up on
it. I believe I tried to reinstall Windows on it and got the
message I couldn't since it had already had one version
installed; and I'd need to buy a new copy of Windows or
something. Windows does something, I think, to computers to
make guard against piracy. I had no idea of what was going on
and just gave up.
#Post#: 6435--------------------------------------------------
Re: Linux
By: coldwar Date: December 11, 2013, 9:26 am
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"I suspected that Windows had done something to some settings
that prevented it from operating on Linux right. I also wondered
if it may have had a hardware problem."
Most likely a hardware problem.
Win-8 definitely does something to prevent a side-by-side
install of another OS - it has done this within it's
"boot-loader". The easy way around this is to completely format
the hard drive before installing Linux, but this leaves you with
a Linux only system - Windows will be gone (be sure to make a
complete recovery USB device drive in case you want to
re-install your Win-8). In many cases this is OK. Otherwise,
from Win-7 downward, I've installed Ubuntu Linux successfully on
over a dozen computers, in a side-by-side (dual boot)
configuration with Windows. It takes less than an hour, and you
can pretty much walk away from it while the install is going on.
That's how far Linux has progressed over the past five years.
The basic steps:
1. Choose which Linux you want. I really recommend XUbuntu.
2. Go to the Download Site for what you've chosen and download
the image file (*.iso)
3. Use your Windows DVD software, and insert a blank DVD -
select the option "burn image to disk"
4. Pre-Test the DVD by viewing it's contents - if all you see is
only the *.iso file, you didn't burn it right. You should see a
bunch of folders and files other than the *.iso
5. Keep the DVD in your drive and reboot. If your computer is
set up right, the DVD should boot to a "Live Session". If it
still boots to Windows, you'll need to reboot again, and catch
the boot sequence at the very beginning (by pressing F12, or
Esc. or whatever it says to do - every computer is different)
6. The Live Session will eventually come up and actually run a
trial version of the Linux you've chosen - you can surf the net
and do lot's of things just from the DVD, but it's slow and not
very impressive. You'll see an option to install the system -
hold your breath and click on that icon
7. The Install will begin. First you go through a few basic
choices (time zone, your name, system password you want to use,
keyboard layout), and then the last of which is most important -
do you want to wipe the drive and have only Linux, do you want
Linux to run side by side with Windoze (recommended) or do you
want to do "something else"?
8. Click the "side-by-side" option, then follow instructions.
Note - if you have a Dell Win-8 machine, this probably won't
work from my own experience. But in most other situations, the
Install will set everything up as it should be while you go eat
lunch.
9. After lunch, you should have a completely wonderful,
dual-boot Linux-Windows computer. Linux will request that a
bunch of updates be run - simply click on "Install Updates" and
go have desert. Linux always self-manages it's own updates.
NOTE to everybody - if you're running a Windows computer, folks,
this is well worth doing! If you're using a Mac, don't bother.
Since about six years ago, Apple computers and other devices are
all built on an adaptation of Linux anyway - that's why people
love them so much, at twice the price!
#Post#: 6441--------------------------------------------------
Re: Linux
By: James Date: December 14, 2013, 1:36 pm
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Hello Dave, this is the second time I have heard of Ubuntu, if
as you say it makes things a lot quicker then it is worth
having.
My questions would be , do I have to somehow install windows
Outlook Express on it so I can still use email in the format I
am used to?
Does it let one import all of the windows bookmarks from
Explorer into its search engine?
As I see it one has a faster system but then a day of setting up
all the bits to use the system, how easy do you think it is for
a windows user of XP for the past 10 years to make the change?
#Post#: 6442--------------------------------------------------
Re: Linux
By: coldwar Date: December 14, 2013, 3:05 pm
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Quick answers James - there are several POP Email packages with
Ubuntu - I use "Thunderbird" which is put out by the Firefox
(old Netscape) browser people. As for importing bookmarks from
IE, no, I don't think it does that well, although it gives you
the option to try, I believe - I simply click on "don't import
anything" when I install, because I recall that it didn't work
in the early days - it might be OK now.
But the really amazing thing is how Ubuntu can actually "mount"
your entire Windows "Documents and settings" Libraries, so that
while running Ubuntu, you can still read- write to all of your
existing files - that part just works automatically.
Dave
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