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       Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Mike Date: October 26, 2013, 11:15 pm
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       This morning Theophilocates awoke in England to a completely
       unnatural phenomena.
       Whilst nature around him proceeds at a gradual pace, someone has
       decreed that his time clock should suddenly change overnight by
       one hour.
       Theophilocrates is aware that the daily amount of sunlight which
       we enjoy increases for the six months after December 21st, and
       decreases for the six months after June 21st, but why should he
       be forced into an unnatural 1 hour change at an arbitrary point
       between those dates, when nature around him changes at a steady
       19.78 seconds per day.
       Theophilocrates proposes a rebellion.
       Theophilocrates proposes that civilisation now has at its
       disposal the wherewithal whereby mankind's things that used to
       go 'tick tock' should be replaced by things than buzz smoothy
       along with displays of 'time' that vary with nature by 19.78
       seconds per day.
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Kerry Date: October 26, 2013, 11:36 pm
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       What's an hour?  In 1752 the British lost 11 days
  HTML http://projectbritain.com/calendar/january/lostdays.html.
       
       In 1752 Britain decided to correct this by abandoning the Julian
       calendar in favour of the Gregorian. By doing so, 3 September
       instantly became 14 September - and as a result, nothing
       whatsoever happened in British history between 3 and 13
       September 1752.
       Many people thought that the government had stolen eleven days
       of their lives. They protested in the streets, demanding "Give
       us back our 11 days!"
       True or not?   From Wikipedia
  HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_(New_Style)_Act_1750:
       It has been reported in some history books that a number of the
       public rioted after the calendar change, requesting that their
       "eleven days" be returned. However, it is very likely this is a
       myth, being based on only two primary sources: The World, a
       satirical journal of Lord Chesterfield, and a painting by
       William Hogarth.
       Chesterfield was behind the Calendar Reform Act of 1750. In one
       of his letters to his son he writes, "Every numerous assembly is
       a mob, let the individuals who compose it be what they will.
       Mere sense is never to be talked to a mob; their passions, their
       sentiments, their senses and their seeming interests alone are
       to be applied to. Understanding have they collectively none."
       Here, he was boasting of his skill in having the Bill passed
       through the Lords; the 'mob' in question was his fellow
       peers.[citation needed]
       When the son of the Earl of Macclesfield (who had been
       influential in passing the calendar law) ran for a seat in
       Parliament in Oxfordshire as a Whig in 1754, dissatisfaction
       with the calendar reform was one of a number of issues raised by
       his Tory opponents. In 1755, William Hogarth made a painting
       (and an engraved print from the painting) loosely based on these
       elections, entitled An Election Entertainment, which shows a
       placard carrying the slogan "Give us our Eleven Days" (on floor
       at lower right). An example of the resulting incorrect history
       is by Ronald Paulson, author of Hogarth, His Life, Art and
       Times, who wrote that "...the Oxfordshire people...are
       specifically rioting, as historically the London crowd did, to
       preserve the 'Eleven Days' the government stole from them in
       September 1752 by changing the calendar."
       And thus it was that the "calendar riot" fiction was born. The
       election campaign depicted was one which concluded in 1754,
       after a very lengthy contest between Court Whigs and Jacobite
       Tories. Literally every issue between the two factions was
       brought up, including the question of calendar reform. The
       Tories attacked the Whigs for every deviation, including their
       alleged favoritism towards foreign Jews and the "Popish"
       calendar. Hogarth's placard, part of a satire on the character
       of the debate, was not an observation of actual crowd behaviour.
       There were, however, legitimate concerns about tax payments
       under the new calendar. Under provision 6 (Times of Payment of
       Rents, Annuities) of the Act, Great Britain made special
       provisions to make sure that monthly or yearly payments would
       not become due until the dates that they originally would have
       in the Julian calendar, or in the words of the act "[Times of
       Payment of Rents, Annuities] at and upon the same respective
       natural days and times as the same should and ought to have been
       payable or made or would have happened in case this Act had not
       been made".
       Several theories have been proposed for the odd beginning of the
       British financial year on 6 April.  One is that from 1753 until
       1799, the tax year in Britain continued to operate on the Julian
       calendar and began on 5 April, which was the "old style" new tax
       year of 25 March. A 12th skipped Julian leap day in 1800 changed
       its start to 6 April. It was not changed when a 13th Julian leap
       day was skipped in 1900, so the tax year in the United Kingdom
       still begins on 6 April.  Poole thought that quarter days, such
       as Lady Day 25 March, marked the end of the financial quarters
       of the year.  Thus, although 25 March Julian marked the
       beginning of the civil year, the next day, 26 March Julian was
       the beginning of the financial year before 1752. After removing
       eleven days in 1752, this corresponded to 6 April Gregorian,
       where it remains today. Although Poole's theory is supported by
       one dictionary,  the Oxford English Dictionary and another
       dictionary as well as other sources state that quarter days mark
       the beginning of their respective quarters.
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Mike Date: October 27, 2013, 1:53 am
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       Whatever will you come up with next, Kerry?
       Was it you that propounded the view that the world would end in
       December 2012?
       Based, in that instance, on a comparison between the 'other'
       calendar (can't remember how to spell it) and the Gregorian one.
       I very much doubt that I will get a response like yours in my
       own forum.
       Unless James or Helen copy and transfer it. ;)
       
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Mike Date: October 27, 2013, 3:13 am
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       However maybe we should first thrash out which Calendar should
       be the authentic 'natural' one before we fiddle with 'clocks'.
       I remember a debate with certain strict 4th commandment
       Christians (Sabbatarians) who were so zealous about their
       precise Sabbath day observance that they insisted on using what
       they claimed was God's original 'Lunar' Calendar to work out
       which day really was the 7th.
       Here's a list of currently recognised Calendars for us to
       consider (to which can be added 23 others no longer in use) :-
       360-day calendar
       Advent calendar
       Akan calendar
       Armenian calendar
       Assyrian calendar
       Astronomical year numbering
       Bahá'í calendar
       Bengali calendar
       Berber calendar
       Buddhist calendar
       Chinese calendar
       Coptic calendar
       Discordian calendar
       Ethiopian calendar
       Fiscal year varies with different countries. Used in accounting
       only.
       Germanic calendar (still in use by Ásatrúar)
       Gregorian calendar used by most countries in the world today.
       Hebrew calendar
       Hindu calendars
       Ibibio calendar used by the Ibibio people
       Igbo calendar used by the Igbo people.
       Indian national calendar
       ISO week date
       Iranian calendars
       Irish calendar
       Islamic calendar
       Jain calendar
       Japanese calendar (Gregorian months)
       Javanese calendar
       Juche era calendar used by North Korea
       Julian calendar
       Kurdish calendar
       Lithuanian calendar
       Malayalam calendar
       Maya calendar (parts still used by Maya)
       Nanakshahi calendar
       Nepali calendar
       Nepal Sambat
       Minguo calendar used by Republic of China/Taiwan.
       Revised Julian calendar
       Romanian calendar
       Runic calendar (still in use by Ásatrúar)
       Tamil calendar
       Thai lunar calendar
       Thai solar calendar
       Tibetan calendar
       Zoroastrian calendar (including Parsi)
       Xhosa calendar (in use in South Africa)
       Yoruba calendar (in use in Nigeria)
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: James Date: October 27, 2013, 4:55 am
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       Whichever calendar a group use may seem to them to make a
       difference as to which hour of the day they are "at" or even
       which day, but although they differ in duration they will all
       end at precisely the same time.
       [color=black]2 Thes2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the
       coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together
       unto him
       On that day when Gods building is complete so will all of your
       now calendars plus even the 23 left out be unified in
       ONE.[/color]
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Kerry Date: October 27, 2013, 6:22 am
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       [quote author=Mike link=topic=629.msg6242#msg6242
       date=1382856784]
       Whatever will you come up with next, Kerry?[/quote]
       I'm surprised people didn't think Lord Chesterfield was the
       "antichrist. "
       Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most
       High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think
       to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand
       until a time and times and the dividing of time.
       [quote]Was it you that propounded the view that the world would
       end in December 2012?[/quote]
       That must have been someone else.   I think something is apt to
       happen before 2018.   Rome will be invaded, etc.   It won't be
       the end of the world although some people may be praying for the
       end.   Perhaps sometime I should write down what I expect to
       happen shortly.   I just ran across some news about Russia and
       China that tell me things should start heating up.
       [quote]Based, in that instance, on a comparison between the
       'other' calendar (can't remember how to spell it) and the
       Gregorian one.
       I very much doubt that I will get a response like yours in my
       own forum.
       Unless James or Helen copy and transfer it. ;)[/quote]
       I wish everyone in the world used GMT.  Who cares what "time"
       the sun rises?    It seems to me getting the world on universal
       time is more important.   China doesn't have time zones -- they
       picked an average for the whole country.   And how preposterous
       is the International Date Line where you can move back a day in
       time? What a fiction.
       Oh, the Coptic calendar is very complicated.  It's based on
       something the Council of Nicea recommended.  They suggested that
       the Copts use the Roman calendar to calculate Easter.    That
       worked well for a while -- until Gregory changed the calendar.
       So what should they do?   Use the old method the Church of Rome
       had?  That's what they had been told.   So they invented their
       own calendar; and it so complicated, I couldn't make heads or
       tails of it.
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Mike Date: October 27, 2013, 6:59 am
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       Maybe the way 'prophesies' work is not based on foresight of a
       future happening, but rather that they are the floating of
       plausibilities with events being fashioned to fit 'whenever' at
       later dates.
       On that basis there could be any number of ostensible
       'fulfilments'.
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Kerry Date: October 27, 2013, 9:15 am
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       Ooops!  Wrong date!
  HTML http://www.oslcissaquah.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/DST.jpg
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Kerry Date: November 4, 2013, 10:10 pm
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       Daylight Savings Time is now being blamed for a rise in crime.
       The downside appears to be a big increase in crime, Steve. I
       spoke with Jennifer Doleac. She's an economist at the University
       of Virginia. And along with Nicholas Sanders, they analyzed
       crime patterns in the spring and fall. And she finds that in the
       fall, there's a substantial increase in street crime after the
       end of Daylight Savings Time, especially when it comes to
       robbery.
       More at NPR
  HTML http://www.npr.org/2013/11/04/242910381/study-sheds-light-on-criminal-activity-during-time-change<br
       />where you can either read the interview or listen to it.
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       Re: Theophilocrates contemplates anarchy.
       By: Kerry Date: March 9, 2014, 6:27 pm
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       More news about Daylight Savings Time!  From cbslocal.com
  HTML http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/03/07/seen-at-11-daylight-saving-time-can-be-a-danger-to-your-health/:
       Dr. Eric Cohen says there are even more serious health
       considerations beyond losing sleep.
       “There have been studies that have shown there are more
       workplace accidents, more driving accidents after the switch to
       Daylight Saving Time. There’s even studies that show there are
       more heart attacks right afterward. So there does seem to be
       some very real implications for this,” Cohen said.
       Experts suggest easing slowly into the time change may help some
       adjust better.
       “If you are one of these sensitive individuals, start setting
       your clock back by 15 minutes, even four or five days before, to
       make the change more gradual,” Samton suggested.
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