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       Re: One Spirit
       By: Kerry Date: October 28, 2013, 6:37 pm
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       ^ I don't agree with  that Rabbi on that point.  (See how it
       goes?  I don't think he's that sensible, so I'll trust him less
       on other things.)     I might concede that David would have
       wanted to commit adultery and failed the test that way.  Of
       course, you are free to agree with him,  James.  What I think
       probably isn't going to change what really happened -- I don't
       take my own opinions that seriously.
       I found an article, but the author doesn't give the original
       sources (not that I could find):
  HTML http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/bathsheba-midrash-and-aggadah<br
       />
       I also found this, but they also don't cite the sources:
  HTML http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/463977/jewish/Davids-Trials.htm
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       Re: One Spirit
       By: James Date: October 29, 2013, 9:08 am
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       Read that Kerry and saw some things in a new light, have
       bookmarked the sites for any future reference.
       This quote from Elisha spoken to Elijah -:[color=black]As the
       LORD liveth, and as thy soul liveth,
       It seems on the face of it to not differ greatly from what Uriah
       said to David, am I missing something because I do not
       understand the context or the Jewish way of seeing
       things.Quote-:as thou livest, and as thy soul liveth
       James[/color]
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       Re: One Spirit
       By: Kerry Date: October 29, 2013, 11:01 am
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       ^ It appears to be the same to me, James.  It's an oath.   The
       difference may have been swearing on the life of the king.  But
       I found in another place someone else swears by the life of
       David.
       2 Samuel 15:21 And Ittai answered the king, and said, As the
       Lord liveth, and as my lord the king liveth, surely in what
       place my lord the king shall be, whether in death or life, even
       there also will thy servant be.
       Could the difference be that Uriah was disobeying David and
       swearing that he would definitely disobey?
       Now you have me wondering if what I believed (not sure I still
       do)   is right.   Maybe it was an oath (seems impious to me
       though) but not blasphemy?
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       Re: One Spirit
       By: James Date: October 29, 2013, 4:43 pm
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       That is why I am sure that Proverbs says iron sharpeneth iron.
       [color=black]Prov27: 17 Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man
       sharpeneth the countenance of his friend.
       One gets to chatting about something and one soon sees a little
       more light, sometimes the light is coming through very large
       holes that another has shot right through one of my pet, firm,
       never to be shaken beliefs.
       God is so good.
       James
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       #Post#: 7068--------------------------------------------------
       Re: One Spirit
       By: Justin Mangonel Date: April 8, 2014, 11:37 am
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       Dear All,
       The Spirit and power of Elijah was simply the Holy Spirit i.e.
       God.  The model is that God wants to indwell us if we ask Him to
       do so.  God was upon John the Baptish but when His ministry was
       done the came upon and indwelt Jesus at the River Jordan.  This
       is why John decreased while Jesus increased.  The Spirit and
       power of Elijah, God, left Jesus on the cross and this is why
       Jesus cried, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
       The problem is, and hence why there is so much confusion, is
       that many are not filled with the Spirit and thus do not have
       that light to understand what He is saying.  We must ask for the
       gift of the infilling of His Spirit so that, by measure, that
       same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead may dwell in us.
       Blessings,
       Justin
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       Re: One Spirit
       By: HOLLAND Date: May 13, 2014, 6:23 am
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       [quote]Why King Arthur, I had always thought of him as a myth,
       then they brought out the film that portrayed him as Roman
       General left here when the Romans returned to their native land.
       I do not know if such is true but it does make a nice
       story.[/quote]
       I thought that I would answer this, James.  King Arthur was,
       historically, a Roman knight that did service in Britain at the
       end of the Roman occupation of England.  The latest film showing
       Arthur as a Roman knight is the most plausible retelling of the
       story.  Cinematically, the last scenes showing the battle of
       Badon Hill are entirely fictional but is quite good.
       [quote]One gets to chatting about something and one soon sees a
       little more light, sometimes the light is coming through very
       large holes that another has shot right through one of my pet,
       firm, never to be shaken beliefs.
       God is so good.[/quote]
       I would agree, James.
       [quote]Dear All,
       The Spirit and power of Elijah was simply the Holy Spirit i.e.
       God.  The model is that God wants to indwell us if we ask Him to
       do so.  God was upon John the Baptish but when His ministry was
       done the came upon and indwelt Jesus at the River Jordan.  This
       is why John decreased while Jesus increased.  The Spirit and
       power of Elijah, God, left Jesus on the cross and this is why
       Jesus cried, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?"
       The problem is, and hence why there is so much confusion, is
       that many are not filled with the Spirit and thus do not have
       that light to understand what He is saying.  We must ask for the
       gift of the infilling of His Spirit so that, by measure, that
       same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead may dwell in us.
       Blessings,
       Justin[/quote]
       Amen, Justin.
       Peace be with you all!
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