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       Re: hello
       By: Mike Date: June 27, 2013, 7:13 pm
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       [quote author=meshak link=topic=540.msg5192#msg5192
       date=1372374002]
       I am against Christians joining the military because Jesus'
       followers are Jesus' representative to the world. Christians are
       misrepresenting Jesus when they take side of any nation.
       Jesus says His followers are not of this world and the military
       is politics and it is of the world.
       [/quote]
       This is also my stance.
       I did military service in England in the days when it was
       compulsory excepting for approved conscientios objection.
       I objected for the reasons that you quoted (plus one other) and
       gained partial approval.
       I still had to do 2 years 'National Service', but limited to non
       combative duties.
       My 'other reason' was my objection to the principle of
       obligatory conscription.
       I felt that serving one's country on a military basis ought to
       have had a recompence that was sufficient to enable a voluntary
       force to be maintained. I also felt that one ought to be free to
       decline service if one genuinely felt that a particular 'war'
       was declared other than for the reason of defence.
       I realise the difficulty in preventing people from using such
       objections without sincerity, but how good is an army comprised
       of reluctant personel?
       If you were a voluntary soldier how would you feel fighting and
       relying upon the protection of your life on the integrity of the
       man beside you who was there reluctantly?
       #Post#: 5198--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hello
       By: meshak Date: June 27, 2013, 9:12 pm
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       Ok everyone here it is: I hope it is in the right board.  Feel
       free to move if it is not appropriate.
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       #Post#: 5206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hello
       By: meshak Date: June 28, 2013, 8:24 am
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       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=540.msg5193#msg5193
       date=1372375394]
       ]I was thinking of starting a thread about the causes of war.  I
       believe most wars are started because people tolerate evil
       things in their leaders, sometimes even love the evil in their
       leaders.    Can  anything be done to stop wars?  Anything?   I
       think there is.  I as one person may not be able to do much, but
       I can do some things I think to push things in the right
       direction.
       [/quote]
       Kelly,
       would you like to start this in another thread or would like to
       discuss in my military thread?
       thank you.
       #Post#: 5208--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hello
       By: Kerry Date: June 28, 2013, 10:48 am
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       [quote author=meshak link=topic=540.msg5206#msg5206
       date=1372425875]
       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=540.msg5193#msg5193
       date=1372375394]
       ]I was thinking of starting a thread about the causes of war.  I
       believe most wars are started because people tolerate evil
       things in their leaders, sometimes even love the evil in their
       leaders.    Can  anything be done to stop wars?  Anything?   I
       think there is.  I as one person may not be able to do much, but
       I can do some things I think to push things in the right
       direction.
       [/quote]
       Kelly,
       would you like to start this in another thread or would like to
       discuss in my military thread?
       thank you.
       [/quote]I think I'd rather start a new thread since it might
       interfere with this one; and at first, I would be talking about
       things which might seem unrelated to war.   People may wonder
       what I was talking about because it might take me some time to
       get to my conclusions.   I was thinking of working it into the
       thread about Job since I that book explains why we have wars.
       I think at least in part, it does.  I read Job as a prophecy;
       and I think it has clues about the Messianic Age when peace will
       come.
       #Post#: 5209--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hello
       By: meshak Date: June 28, 2013, 10:59 am
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       Ok, thank you Kelly.
       #Post#: 5213--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hello
       By: George Date: June 28, 2013, 12:54 pm
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       [quote author=meshak link=topic=540.msg5209#msg5209
       date=1372435199]
       Ok, thank you Kelly.
       [/quote]
       Just wanted to clarify his name is Kerry not Kelly  :D
       #Post#: 5214--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hello
       By: Kerry Date: June 28, 2013, 1:26 pm
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       [quote author=George M. C. Jr. link=topic=540.msg5213#msg5213
       date=1372442090]
       [quote author=meshak link=topic=540.msg5209#msg5209
       date=1372435199]
       Ok, thank you Kelly.
       [/quote]
       Just wanted to clarify his name is Kerry not Kelly  :D
       [/quote]I used to have an aunt who called me Gary.  My Mother
       would keep telling her my name was Kerry; but my dear aunt kept
       on calling me Gary.   LOL
       #Post#: 5217--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hello
       By: George Date: June 28, 2013, 2:41 pm
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       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=540.msg5214#msg5214
       date=1372444014]
       I used to have an aunt who called me Gary.  My Mother would keep
       telling her my name was Kerry; but my dear aunt kept on calling
       me Gary.   LOL
       [/quote]
       ROFL
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       Re: hello
       By: meshak Date: June 28, 2013, 5:05 pm
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       Ok, thank Kerry and George.
       #Post#: 5244--------------------------------------------------
       Re: hello
       By: Runner Date: June 29, 2013, 1:12 pm
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       Hello Meshak, from Helen.   :)
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