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       #Post#: 23779--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: twinc
       Date: August 21, 2019, 7:38 pm
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       man is no more than 10,000 years old according to the bible and
       scientific dating methods and the geological column = millions
       of years is impossible - twinc
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       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: HOLLAND
       Date: August 25, 2019, 7:13 am
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       --- Quote from: twinc link ---
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       > man is no more than 10,000 years old according to the bible
       and scientific dating methods and the geological column =
       millions of years is impossible - twinc
       >
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       Are you stating, twinc, that Genesis 1-11 is a scientific
       document?  If so, could you please prove this?  Thanks very
       much!   :)
       #Post#: 23844--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: twinc
       Date: August 29, 2019, 5:17 pm
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       --- Quote from: HOLLAND link ---
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       > Are you stating, twinc, that Genesis 1-11 is a scientific
       document?  If so, could you please prove this?  Thanks very
       much!   :)
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       it does not take millions of years for coal and oil to form -
       Archbishop Usher's biblical chronology is near enough and even
       if wrong by thousands of years not by give or take a few
       millions by science - twinc
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       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: HOLLAND
       Date: August 29, 2019, 7:04 pm
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       --- Quote from: twinc link ---
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       >
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       > it does not take millions of years for coal and oil to form -
       Archbishop Usher's biblical chronology is near enough and even
       if wrong by thousands of years not by give or take a few
       millions by science - twinc
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Fossil fuel formation is commonly explained as in the following
       video:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YHsxXEVB1M
       I think that if you're possibly correct, good chap, you would
       need to explain how hydrocarbons can form so quickly within the
       timeframe set by Bishop Usher instead of the millions of years
       posited by the scientists.
       #Post#: 23846--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: twinc
       Date: August 30, 2019, 4:51 am
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       --- Quote from: HOLLAND link ---
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       >
       > Fossil fuel formation is commonly explained as in the
       following video:
       >
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  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YHsxXEVB1M
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       >
       >
       > I think that if you're possibly correct, good chap, you would
       need to explain how hydrocarbons can form so quickly within the
       timeframe set by Bishop Usher instead of the millions of years
       posited by the scientists.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       you are talking about pseudo science and scientists - even the
       Pope stated he accepted evolution as it took millions of years
       for coal and oil to form - he was surprised to be told that they
       could be formed overnight under laboratory conditions and in a
       few days under field conditions - you can google[the early
       formation of coal] - Dinosaurs are not millions of years old
       either as some scientists noted what was buried with them as
       regards plants, birds, marine life and other animals - twinc
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       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: HOLLAND
       Date: August 30, 2019, 8:03 am
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       --- Quote from: twinc link ---
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       > you are talking about pseudo science and scientists
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       This is an extreme charge, twinc.  You will have to be prepared
       to back it up.
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       > - even the Pope stated he accepted evolution as it took
       millions of years for coal and oil to form - he was surprised to
       be told that they could be formed overnight under laboratory
       conditions and in a few days under field conditions
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       I imagine, good chap, that he learned that synthetic fuels can
       be created and manufactured on a big scale as the Third Reich
       accomplished during the Second World War.  These are not
       hydrocarbons derived from biomass which is beside the point.
       Can you prove that hydrocarbons derived from biomass had been
       created as quickly as synthetic hydrocarbons?
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       > - you can google[the early formation of coal]
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       I have already done so.  Please see the video of my last
       posting.
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       > - Dinosaurs are not millions of years old either as some
       scientists noted what was buried with them as regards plants,
       birds, marine life and other animals - twinc
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       This is an unproven assertion.  Have you noted how wildly
       different the flora and fauna is back at the time of the
       dinosaurs?  We live in a different milieu of time.
       #Post#: 23857--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: twinc
       Date: August 30, 2019, 3:30 pm
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       modern day/type animals, birds, insects etc are found buried
       with Dinosaurs after millions of years there should only be dust
       and anyway how long does it take to bury Dinosaurs - you must
       google[www.ukapologetics.net/10/coalandoil.htm - twinc
       #Post#: 23881--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: HOLLAND
       Date: September 1, 2019, 5:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: twinc link ---
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       > modern day/type animals, birds, insects etc are found buried
       with Dinosaurs after millions of years there should only be dust
       and anyway how long does it take to bury Dinosaurs - you must
       google[www.ukapologetics.net/10/coalandoil.htm - twinc
       >
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       The only time, twinc, if modern day/type animals, birds, insects
       etc. are found buried with dinosaurs is if the dig in question
       has been improperly maintained and if the site has become
       contaminated.  If you believe that dinosaurs lived into modern
       times, how come they have been superceded by less threatening,
       smaller mammalian predators such as wolves and bears?  I suspect
       that dinosaurs would enjoy eating any mammalian predator or
       human.  If this situation existed, humankind would have been
       eaten and would not have reached any form of civilization.
       Your link www.ukapologetics.net/10/coalandoil.htm does not
       provide any proof that hydrocarbons produced through biomass
       over millions of years has been found to be also created as
       quickly as it is done in a lab.  If I've read the article wrong,
       please explain where I am wrong.
       #Post#: 23884--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: twinc
       Date: September 1, 2019, 6:58 pm
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       --- Quote from: HOLLAND link ---
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       > The only time, twinc, if modern day/type animals, birds,
       insects etc. are found buried with dinosaurs is if the dig in
       question has been improperly maintained and if the site has
       become contaminated.  If you believe that dinosaurs lived into
       modern times, how come they have been superceded by less
       threatening, smaller mammalian predators such as wolves and
       bears?  I suspect that dinosaurs would enjoy eating any
       mammalian predator or human.  If this situation existed,
       humankind would have been eaten and would not have reached any
       form of civilization.
       >
       > Your link www.ukapologetics.net/10/coalandoil.htm does not
       provide any proof that hydrocarbons produced through biomass
       over millions of years has been found to be also created as
       quickly as it is done in a lab.  If I've read the article wrong,
       please explain where I am wrong.
       >
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       you  are totally and utterly wrong on both counts for Dinosaurs
       and humans and other animals were created as herbivores not
       carnivores and so rapidly increased and multiplied - some became
       carnivores because the veg had all but disappeared - during the
       war years meat was mixed with cereals and veg and fed to zoo
       animals and even now cat and dog food contain cereals eventually
       the lion will lie down with the lamb and even eat grass - it
       seems to me you have misread the link and your millions of years
       ago ls impossible and a laugh and mad  imagination run riot -
       twinc
       #Post#: 23898--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How old are man's earliest ancestors?
   DIR By: HOLLAND
       Date: September 2, 2019, 6:42 pm
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       --- Quote from: twinc link ---
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       >
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       > you  are totally and utterly wrong on both counts for
       Dinosaurs and humans and other animals were created as
       herbivores not carnivores and so rapidly increased and
       multiplied - some became carnivores because the veg had all but
       disappeared
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       In terms of biological structure, you can tell, twinc, who are
       the carnivores and who are the herbivores.  Carnivores have eyes
       set forward in the skull and have a tooth structure that allows
       for biting and tearing at flesh.  Herbivores has eyes set on the
       sides of the skull and have teeth that permits the grinding of
       tough vegetative matter.  Also, many herbivores have a developed
       digestive system that permits the digestion of plant material.
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       > - during the war years meat was mixed with cereals and veg and
       fed to zoo animals and even now cat and dog food contain cereals
       --- End Quote ---
       I agree.
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       > eventually the lion will lie down with the lamb and even eat
       grass
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       I agree.  It has been prophezied as such.
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       > - it seems to me you have misread the link and your millions
       of years ago ls impossible and a laugh and mad  imagination run
       riot - twinc
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       No, it is not, good chap.  It takes millions of years to turn
       biomass into hydrocarbons.
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