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Blessing in the afterward..
By: Runner Date: October 6, 2012, 9:13 pm
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" Hast thou seen the treasures of the hail, which I have
reserved against the day of trouble?" Job 38:22-23
Our testing times are great opportunities. We see them as
obstacles and hindrances.
It would be more blessing to us if we could quickly recognize
every difficult situation as one of God’s ways of 'proving us'
with His love. I am afraid that I usually "see" it afterward!
If we will look back into the past, we will probably find that
the times our Father picks to do us good and blessed our lives ,
has been the very time that we felt at whits end and the heavens
as brass. That beautiful ozone fragrance after the rain :)
God’s 'gems' arrive at the times when we are least expecting
them..... In the mouth of a raven like Elijah had, or in the
fishes mouth.
He asks us to trust Him in the dark, and honor Him with our
'confident expectation of good'. (= Hope)
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Re: Blessing in the afterward..
By: bənê hāʼĕlōhîm
Date: October 7, 2012, 9:46 pm
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I must say you have been on a role with GREAT post!!!
Yes, I agree what you posted seems to be so true, and I believe
it is true that most of us don't see the blessing until after
the storm has passed...
ANOTHER great post Runner!!!
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Re: Blessing in the afterward..
By: Kerry Date: October 8, 2012, 12:16 am
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Is this a reference to physical hail or to the hail mingled with
blood or fire? It's a deep passage. Rashi thought that verse
23 is a reference to Gog and Magog. ???
How could such things be treasures? Because they usher in a
new age? Like birth pangs precede the birth of a child?
It seems true that blessings follow troubles in our personal
lives; and if we can see that, maybe that's a clue how it will
play out globally. Perhaps it has to do with how much we fight
giving up the darkness. The more we cling to it, the more
difficult we make our problems.
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Re: Blessing in the afterward..
By: Laurie Date: October 8, 2012, 5:23 am
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My "at wits end" problems seem to have changed as I've gotten
older.
I needed to learn a lot of stuff....and God is the best Father
at teaching me just what I need to learn.
I am getting old enough now to be able to see how He has grown
me up....even with the late start I had. :)
Sometimes I think I may have had a little bit of an advantage
that my parents only gave me a little info, and provided the
tools, which allowed me to do my own seeking.
I hope that all made sense! I'm in a rush----early day at work
today, but get off earlier than usual.
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Re: Blessing in the afterward..
By: Runner Date: October 8, 2012, 11:42 am
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Job 38.18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare
if thou knowest it all. Where is the way where light dwelleth?
and as for darkness, where is the place thereof, That thou
shouldest take it to the bound thereof, and that thou shouldest
know the paths to the house thereof? Knowest thou it, because
thou wast then born? or because the number of thy days is great?
Hast thou entered into the treasures of the snow? or hast thou
seen the treasures of the hail,Which I have reserved against the
time of trouble, against the day of battle and war?
[quote]quote Kerry...How could such things be treasures?
Because they usher in a new age? Like birth pangs precede
the birth of a child?
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I would say, yes, and yes. When we think of the pain of soul and
anguish of spirit that Christ went through....and like you
mentioned, any mother knows the pain
snow and hail of childbirth, yet it is the vehicle to deliver
the 'treasure'. The treasures OF the snow and the treasures OF
the hail. I don't think the snow and hail are treasures in
themselves. "reserved against the time of trouble...and the day
of battle.." Bringing in the afterward of a new day.
And, as Laurie said...God is the best Father at teaching me just
what I need to learn.
Job said... "Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him: but I
will maintain mine own ways before him." We usually only hear
the first half of this verse quoted..yet I see that Job still
had some way to go in humility...that's what I believe the whole
book is all about. He was his own saviour and of his
children...he sacrificed like mad to earn God's favour and keep
his children in His good books.
We see in chap 1 "8 And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou
considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the
earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and
escheweth evil?
9.Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for
nought?
My own opinion is that verse 8 became his own trap...he started
to rely on his own righteousness .....'FAITH was imputed as
righteousness to Abraham'. "I think" Job faith had shifted
from God to his own works. God loved him and wanted to make a
correction...hence he brought him to Satan's attention. verse 9
I think hits the nail...'Doth Job fear God for nothing?' = No,
Job didn't love and fear him just for who God was, but for what
He could do in protection of Job and his family. The rest of
the book of Job shows bringing the correction back to 'true
north'. Jobs salvation, with twice as much blessing as he
started with in the beginning.
This all happened long before "Israel" but...Isaiah 45:3 "And
I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of
secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which
call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel." Would fit here for
Job too.
The earth , as I see it, is in a dark place...and will probably
get even darker.
I sometimes believe that there will be a mighty blowing of God's
Spirit before the End.
And at other times I believe that God will just 'swab the deck'
and make a clean slate.
Whichever and whatever, I do believe that there will be treasure
out of darkness and treasures out of the 'snow and hail'
whatever they be....as the earth travails to bring forth the
son's of God. Like Christ, darkness before Glory. Storm before
The New Day.
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