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Election of Grace
By: Laurie Date: March 3, 2013, 7:33 am
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ELECTION OF GRACE
“Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant
according to the election of grace.” (Romans 11:5)
All men shall have to admit that when grace comes to us, there
is no qualification on our part whereby we merit such grace, for
grace is never given on merit or human worthiness. Grace is
given because there is a need for it, and because God loves to
meet our needs. If there were works to first be done to qualify,
then it would no more be grace. It is well said that ‘the
barrenness of Sarah’s womb was her greatest asset,” for this
great need became the arena wherein God could manifest His
grace, and give her a son.
While the vast majority of mankind are held in darkness and
death until that future date of His purpose, there is at present
time a remnant being called “to come out from among them”, (II
Cor. 6:17), as a firstfruits of that new creation species
through whom He shall ultimately reveal His grace to all men. It
is a sovereign act of God – He calls and chooses, makes known
His grace unto us. Then, having received His grace, we are put
to the test to see if we shall respond in obedience to this
grace, and walk worthy of His calling. We are warned not to do
“despite” unto the grace of God. And it was Paul who wrote, “I
do not frustrate the grace of God”, (Gal. 2:21). He did not
despise, belittle, disannul that grace so freely given to him,
but yielded himself to its full inworking, so he could, also,
say, “By the grace of God I am what I am: and His grace which
was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more
abundantly that they all: yet not I, but the grace of God was
with me.” (Corinthians 15:10)
The wonders and glories of this inworking grace is that we
might become His vessels of mercy, so “that in the ages to come
He might shew the riches of His grace in His kindness toward us
through Christ Jesus”. (Eph. 2:7). His display vessels, to
manifest to all creation the grace, which shall also be given to
all, though it be “every man in his own order”. (I Corinthians
15:23)
Ray Prinzing
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Re: Election of Grace
By: Runner Date: March 3, 2013, 10:51 am
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Excellent opener for the day....thanks :)
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Re: Election of Grace
By: James Date: March 3, 2013, 12:09 pm
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Quote:- as a firstfruits of that new creation species through
whom He shall ultimately reveal His grace to all men.
Just how does that happen? By what method will it take place
Very interesting.
James
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Re: Election of Grace
By: Laurie Date: March 17, 2013, 10:34 am
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[quote]Quote:- as a firstfruits of that new creation species
through whom He shall ultimately reveal His grace to all men.
Just how does that happen? By what method will it take place
Very interesting.[/quote]
Is love a method?
Maybe love is more the motivator.....and causes one to be
merciful, kind, forgiving, etc.
Maybe when one experiences mercy, kindness, forgiveness, etc
from one to whom he has treated the opposite----God's grace is
revealed?
I've heard that love covers a multitude of sins.
Maybe it will be contagious....love someone who has been
unloving, and maybe it will cause them to do the same. :D
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Re: Election of Grace
By: George Date: March 17, 2013, 4:25 pm
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[quote author=Laurie link=topic=419.msg4153#msg4153
date=1363534492]
I've heard that love covers a multitude of sins.
[/quote]
I would say this is one of the few things I can agree with, for
sin is simply to forget the nature of wo/man and that we are all
gods worthy of unconditional love. It is when we begin to show
other than love that we slip into sin. Which is then punished
here and now in a hell that is created within oneself for
choosing to continue in sin.
[quote author=Laurie link=topic=419.msg4153#msg4153
date=1363534492]
Maybe it will be contagious....love someone who has been
unloving, and maybe it will cause them to do the same.
:D[/quote]
As good of an idea as this sounds in my lifetime experience I
cannot say in these current condition and in this current
environment this is the case. I would put most emphasis on the
maybe because the reality is it is up to ones self to be
awakened, although our loving can help to bring them to
awareness it is them that must realize.
I really enjoyed your posts Laurie! Thank you!
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Re: Election of Grace
By: Mike Date: March 17, 2013, 4:42 pm
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[quote author=George M. C. Jr. link=topic=419.msg4155#msg4155
date=1363555552]
I would say this ("love covers a multitude of sins" )is one of
the few things I can agree with, for sin is simply to forget the
nature of wo/man and that we are all gods worthy of
unconditional love. It is when we begin to show other than love
that we slip into sin. Which is then punished here and now in a
hell that is created within oneself for choosing to continue in
sin.
[/quote]
At last George you unfold your 'faith'....."that we are all gods
who slip into sin and are punished here and now in a hell that
is created within ourselves if we continue in sin."
Any chance you can tell whether this is of your own compilation,
or discovered from others who believe likewise?
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Re: Election of Grace
By: George Date: March 17, 2013, 4:59 pm
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[quote author=Mike link=topic=419.msg4157#msg4157
date=1363556564]
At last George you unfold your 'faith'....."that we are all gods
who slip into sin and are punished here and now in a hell that
is created within ourselves if we continue in sin."
Any chance you can tell whether this is of your own compilation,
or discovered from others who believe likewise?
[/quote]
John 10:34
King James Version (KJV)
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
I discovered it in the bible and the original meaning of sin
when studying where the idea of sin came about, I am not sure if
anyone agrees with me I didn't pick it up solely from any other
person, per say. It is just what I believe. I will also say I
don't believe in an afterlife thus the hell is within here and
now and the kingdom of God is within you as well!
Luke 17:21
King James Version (KJV)
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold,
the kingdom of God is within you.
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Re: Election of Grace
By: George Date: March 17, 2013, 5:05 pm
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[quote author=Mike link=topic=419.msg4157#msg4157
date=1363556564]
At last George you unfold your 'faith'....."that we are all gods
who slip into sin and are punished here and now in a hell that
is created within ourselves if we continue in sin."
Any chance you can tell whether this is of your own compilation,
or discovered from others who believe likewise?
[/quote]
I must point out you left out the most important part! That we
are all worthy of unconditional Love.
Just curious how did you miss that part or is it just not
relevant?
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Re: Election of Grace
By: Kerry Date: March 17, 2013, 8:01 pm
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[quote author=George M. C. Jr. link=topic=419.msg4159#msg4159
date=1363557546]
[quote author=Mike link=topic=419.msg4157#msg4157
date=1363556564]
At last George you unfold your 'faith'....."that we are all gods
who slip into sin and are punished here and now in a hell that
is created within ourselves if we continue in sin."
Any chance you can tell whether this is of your own compilation,
or discovered from others who believe likewise?
[/quote]
John 10:34
King James Version (KJV)
34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said,
Ye are gods?
I discovered it in the bible and the original meaning of sin
when studying where the idea of sin came about, I am not sure if
anyone agrees with me I didn't pick it up solely from any other
person, per say. It is just what I believe. I will also say I
don't believe in an afterlife thus the hell is within here and
now and the kingdom of God is within you as well!
Luke 17:21
King James Version (KJV)
21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold,
the kingdom of God is within you.
[/quote]He was quoting Psalm 82. Does that Psalm mean everyone
or was it addressed to Israel?
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Re: Election of Grace
By: George Date: March 17, 2013, 10:03 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=419.msg4165#msg4165
date=1363568500]
He was quoting Psalm 82. Does that Psalm mean everyone or was
it addressed to Israel?
[/quote]
Yes he was quoting Psalms 82; but I don't think your nationality
has anything to do with your humanity, We are all made equal. If
I'm to believe that Jesus was sent only to the house of Israel
and Psalms and Jesus were only referring to Israel and the bible
is for the Jews. Then why waist my time with what the bible or
Jesus or even God had to say? People of the house of Israel are
gods and God's chosen people etc. etc. then the rest of us Goyum
are just irrelevant by standards, offspring of another race, Who
says God cares about anyone else then? According to Jesus us
dogs aren't even worthy of the scraps!
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