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       Hearing the voice of God
       By: George Date: January 6, 2013, 1:18 pm
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       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: laterunner Date: January 6, 2013, 1:53 pm
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       Thanks. George.
       That was such a sad situation. We do need to ''Weigh'' all
       things seemingly ''Spirit'' or natural.
       I was getting out a small tree's roots to add a new tree two
       foot away, a couple of days ago.
       I was conscience of the Holy Spirit being there with me.
       I am artistic & no DIY wiss.       I worked at it unusually
       systematically through the wet clay.
       Would there be an other root going straight down just to
       frustrate me.?
       Would the root I was chopping go through easily?
       Would I be strong enough to move it?
       I just felt an unusual confidence.
       I haven't had this experience before with no ''Spiritual''
       purpose in what I was doing.
       I hope this make sense.
       I agree in what has been said before that God speaks to all all
       the time as we tune in to Him or He chooses to make Himself
       known.
       #Post#: 3169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: James Date: January 6, 2013, 5:17 pm
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       Quote from George:- I don't believe that anyone hears a voice
       whether it be in there heads in there dreams or in physical
       form.....
       George having said that you do not believe and that you are not
       looking to have your belief changed and that anyone who says
       they do hear is on the verge of mental instability WHY would you
       expect an answer from anyone who actually does hear from God?
       The bible makes it clear we are not to put before those who will
       rend the truth, those things that are the pearls of the kingdom.
       Bless you George with an intervention from God such as the man
       Saul had on the Damascus road.
       James
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       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: George Date: January 7, 2013, 10:05 am
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       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3169#msg3169
       date=1357514220]
       Quote from George:- I don't believe that anyone hears a voice
       whether it be in there heads in there dreams or in physical
       form.....
       WHY would you expect an answer from anyone who actually does
       hear from God?
       The bible makes it clear we are not to put before those who will
       rend the truth, those things that are the pearls of the kingdom.
       James
       [/quote]
       I honestly wasn't expecting for anyone to say they hear
       voices... If they did I would have expected scripture that shows
       that God says when we listen we will hear his voice...Only
       scripture that comes to my mind is "Be still and know that I am
       God"... I cant think of one where God says anything about us
       hearing his voice
       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3169#msg3169
       date=1357514220]
       The bible makes it clear we are not to put before those who will
       rend the truth, those things that are the pearls of the kingdom.
       James[/color]
       [/quote]
       Well maybe I just don't have any pearls then...
       #Post#: 3185--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: George Date: January 7, 2013, 10:25 am
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       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3169#msg3169
       date=1357514220]
       George having said that you do not believe and that you are not
       looking to have your belief changed
       [/quote]
       I made this statement so that anyone who chose to reply would
       speak from there heart and not in a manner of trying to persuade
       me or convert me into there thought process... I wanted to hear
       some things from the heart, supported by scripture, what I
       didn't want was a bunch of short sermons... Anyhow its
       irrelevant
       #Post#: 3186--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: George Date: January 7, 2013, 10:40 am
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       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3169#msg3169
       date=1357514220]
       George having said that anyone who says they do hear is on the
       verge of mental instability WHY would you expect an answer from
       anyone who actually does hear from God?
       James
       [/quote]
       And to clarify I said nothing of the sort!!! What I said was I
       think anyone hearing voices is not of a strong mind... I didn't
       say anyone was on the verge of mental instability!!!
       Please don't twist my words to make me sound as if I am trying
       to insult people... If you were insulted, that is how you took
       it... NOT WHAT I SAID THOUGH!!!
       #Post#: 3188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: James Date: January 7, 2013, 12:35 pm
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       Now George I hope you were not trying to scare me with your big
       letters.
       Yes George, the truth is that is what you said but not in those
       words.
       What you said was that anyone who claims to hear the voice of
       God is not of a strong mind and you then went on to say that
       such people were acceptable to many voices( I think you meant
       susceptible to many voices) and that there were many instances
       of people who have committed murders based on the fact they
       heard from God to kill
       George I would call killing someone because you said God told
       you to was without doubt mental instability.  I am sure by
       mentioning the murders you were showing the path a person was on
       if they claimed to hear from God.
       Still no matter George since it looks as if you might have lost
       interest as you say it is now irrelevant.
       George I was not insulted.  In my opinion I just gave an honest
       reply to what you had written, the fact that you do or do not
       believe that a living person can hear the voice of God is, as
       you say,  irrelevant.
       As I said before I pray you have the blessing of a Damascus road
       experience.
       James
       #Post#: 3189--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: Runner Date: January 7, 2013, 12:54 pm
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       Actually I myself was insulted. That's why I didn't reply after
       I read the OP.
       I don't believe that God ever tells us to do something we cannot
       do.
       Many , many times in the OT He said " Hear My voice" Harken to
       My word. Attend to Me. Why say that if He doesn't have a voice
       or speaks?
       Noah heard, and built the ark. Abraham heard, and took his only
       son up the mountain.
       Elijah heard.."and went to the brook.." etc
       In the New T. Jesus says- " My sheep HEAR MY VOICE..."
       I have heard, and I do hear the voice of the Lord. ...In many
       different ways.
       #Post#: 3190--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: Runner Date: January 7, 2013, 12:55 pm
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       P.S.
       And...for a "Global Moderator" to shout at someone with font
       sized 38, I think is pretty bad behaviour!!
       #Post#: 3191--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Hearing the voice of God
       By: George Date: January 7, 2013, 2:55 pm
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=323.msg3189#msg3189
       date=1357584873]
       Actually I myself was insulted. That's why I didn't reply after
       I read the OP.
       I don't believe that God ever tells us to do something we cannot
       do.
       Many , many times in the OT He said " Hear My voice" Harken to
       My word. Attend to Me. Why say that if He doesn't have a voice
       or speaks?
       Noah heard, and built the ark. Abraham heard, and took his only
       son up the mountain.
       Elijah heard.."and went to the brook.." etc
       In the New T. Jesus says- " My sheep HEAR MY VOICE..."
       I have heard, and I do hear the voice of the Lord. ...In many
       different ways.
       [/quote]
       I had no intentions to insult...
       [quote author=Helen link=topic=323.msg3190#msg3190
       date=1357584946]
       P.S.
       And...for a "Global Moderator" to shout at someone with font
       sized 38, I think is pretty bad behaviour!!
       [/quote]
       I think for people to quote others yet change words is poor
       practice... Again you took it as I'm shouting because I used a
       large font... I thought shouting was using all caps... Large
       font is so that it is seen clearly that that was not my words!!!
       Moderator status can be changed... I'm not going to let anyone
       put words in my mouth whether I am a moderator or not, I should
       have the same rights as you, and I'm sure you wouldn't
       appreciate it either... If someone didn't understand what I
       meant they could ask, not assume and make there own statements
       and credit them to me or say that I said it...
       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1357583728]
       Now George I hope you were not trying to scare me with your big
       letters.
       James
       [/quote]
       Scare you??? Not at all!!! It was to make it clear you changed
       my words...
       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1357583728]
       Yes George, the truth is that is what you said but not in those
       words.
       [/quote]
       That is how you read it... I said someone hearing voices is not
       of a strong mind... Meaning they are easily persuaded to believe
       things that may not be true... Nothing with being on the verge
       of mental instability
       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1357583728]
       What you said was that anyone who claims to hear the voice of
       God is not of a strong mind and you then went on to say that
       such people were acceptable to many voices( I think you meant
       susceptible to many voices) and that there were many instances
       of people who have committed murders based on the fact they
       heard from God to kill
       [/quote]
       I gave an example of when people claim to hear a voice when we
       know they are wrong... nothing to do with anyone who claims to
       hear Gods voice is going to kill people... The part about
       susceptible to hearing many voices is true I said that and stand
       by that...
       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1357583728]
       George I would call killing someone because you said God told
       you to was without doubt mental instability.
       [/quote]
       I would agree
       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1357583728]
       I am sure by mentioning the murders you were showing the path a
       person was on if they claimed to hear from God.
       [/quote]
       This is a ridiculous statement!!! For correction you ASSUMED
       that is what I was meaning... But you are not SURE, there is no
       way you could be because you got it wrong...
       [quote author=James link=topic=323.msg3188#msg3188
       date=1357583728]
       George I was not insulted.  In my opinion I just gave an honest
       reply to what you had written, the fact that you do or do not
       believe that a living person can hear the voice of God is, as
       you say,  irrelevant.
       [/quote]
       Glad you were not insulted... Maybe next time clarify if what
       you think I mean is actually what I mean with questions rather
       than assume you know what I mean and reword my statement when
       quoting me...
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