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Just
By: George Date: December 19, 2012, 3:07 pm
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I read today at another forum, If God was truly a just God he
would have culled man kind when Adam and Eve screwed up... He
knew it was only going to get worse!!!
We only hope for better days, the reality could be that the only
better day to come in the end is death and going out of
existence... Not in a Buddha religious way, just no longer
living, no longer exist...
To some I'm sure some ask, is life truly a blessing or a
curse??? I know I ask this myself at times... seems with all the
misery and sadness, lack of love world wide... nothing appears
to be getting better... more church's is just more hypocrites...
more holier than thou we know the truth nonsenses... I think it
is the book of Leviticus that I heard someone say was all about
this life is all we have, so eat drink and be merry...
Why should we try to be good people when always the good finish
last??? Oh yea in the afterlife the last finish first... I
KNOW!!! What about this life??? Seems I might as well quit
trying to be good, and just try to anything and everything that
is pleasing to me... Why be loyal, faithful, loving, why turn
the other cheek??? Why not just knock the ever living snot out
that noggin??? Then at least you feel better for a brief
moment... In the end no one will be lost so why try and be one
of the good guys???
They say to be successful you have to be willing to step on
everyone's toes... Friends, Family, Foe it doesn't matter... Its
all about self!!!
Spend most of our lives in misunderstanding, wants, misery,
sadness, disappointment; but anytime we get a glimpse of
goodness just a moment of sunshine we credit it to Gods
blessings... Maybe it is true that we must create our own
blessings??? Even if that means stepping on a few toes!!!
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Re: Just
By: Kerry Date: December 19, 2012, 6:53 pm
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[quote author=George M. C. Jr. link=topic=292.msg2731#msg2731
date=1355951254]I read today at another forum, If God was truly
a just God he would have culled man kind when Adam and Eve
screwed up... He knew it was only going to get worse!!! [/quote]
By this kind of thinking, you could say God shouldn't have made
man in the first place since man is completely worthless.
[quote]We only hope for better days, the reality could be that
the only better day to come in the end is death and going out of
existence... Not in a Buddha religious way, just no longer
living, no longer exist... [/quote]
Hope should be based on something reasonable. My car needs
fixed. Hoping it fixes itself wasn't enough.
[quote]To some I'm sure some ask, is life truly a blessing or a
curse???
I know I ask this myself at times... seems with all the misery
and sadness, lack of love world wide... nothing appears to be
getting better... more church's is just more hypocrites... more
holier than thou we know the truth nonsenses... I think it is
the book of Leviticus that I heard someone say was all about
this life is all we have, so eat drink and be merry... [/quote]
This life is meant to be enjoyed if we can. If we make
ourselves miserable, we are not being grateful; and Moses said
the ungrateful will burn in the lowest hell. They should too,
since nothing will make them happy.
What have you done lately about malaria? One person a minute
dies from it. You can eat, drink and be merry if you like; but
why complain then how the world has such a lack of love?
I wonder why we're so upset about the Connecticut shootings?
That was not that many people dying. It just shocked us because
we didn't expect it...here. If children die quietly of malaria
in Africa, we can live with that without it upsetting us; is
that because malaria is not a theat to us?
[quote]Why should we try to be good people when always the good
finish last???
[/quote]ROFL!!! If you think the good finish last in this
world, maybe you are part of the problem.
[quote]Oh yea in the afterlife the last finish first... I
KNOW!!![/quote]
Why talk about the afterlife if this life is confusing? If
there is a God, He didn't put you here to learn about the
afterlife.
[quote]What about this life??? Seems I might as well quit
trying to be good, and just try to anything and everything that
is pleasing to me... Why be loyal, faithful, loving, why turn
the other cheek???[/quote]
I aim to loyal, faithful and loving because that's what I want
to do. It pleases me. Even if there is no God and no
afterlife. I do what I please, and that is what pleases me.
Have I been betrayed? More times than I'd care to talk about,
but why should I feel bad about that? So I got fooled, I needed
to start making better choices about who I trust. I used to
trust people for wrong reasons, mostly because I wanted to think
they cared about me. ROFL, I was fooling myself.
[quote]Why not just knock the ever living snot out that
noggin??? Then at least you feel better for a brief moment... In
the end no one will be lost so why try and be one of the good
guys??? [/quote]
That's why most people are here. The real cause of the problem
hasn't been corrected. A lot of people try to obey the
commandments in order to get a better afterlife. Perhaps that
works to some extent, but it isn't the final solution.
The person who feels like murdering someone but doesn't do it
still has murder in his heart. He can be tempted by
circumstances to murder. Put enough pressure on him, and he
will. The truth is that an unkind word and murder are the same
act with the only difference being a matter of degree. If
people thought they could get away with murder, they'd probably
do it. Some are restrained by fear of man's legal system and
others by fear of hell. That impulse to strike out when we
don't get what we want is exactly why we are here with other
people like us. We are in a prison for angry spirits.
How could using violence on other people make you happy? Even
for a second? If someone thinks that, I'd say he's confused.
[quote]They say to be successful you have to be willing to step
on everyone's toes... Friends, Family, Foe it doesn't matter...
Its all about self!!! [/quote]Successful at what? If your goal
is to be loving and caring, there is no one on the face of the
earth that stop you from succeeding. If the calculation is "I
will be loving and caring in order to get what I want from
others," I don't see how that is loving or caring.
[quote]Spend most of our lives in misunderstanding, wants,
misery, sadness, disappointment; but anytime we get a glimpse of
goodness just a moment of sunshine we credit it to Gods
blessings... Maybe it is true that we must create our own
blessings??? Even if that means stepping on a few
toes!!![/quote]
Most people in America don't know what real suffering is. They
might be stronger and happier if they did. One of my best
friends was a Jew. She was in Germany on Krystallnacht. She had
lost most of her family in Nazi Germany. Her husband had died in
America when he was young, and they had no children. Her few
relatives seldom called or visited. I knew her when she had
breast cancer and had more problems than most people could
imagine. She was never angry or resentful. One day when I said
something, she did get a slightly sharp tone to her voice, but
she realized it and stopped. I was impressed. Amid all her
problems, she still had compassion for me and did not want to
use a sharp tone with me; and I would have tolerated it too,
excusing it as irritation with the rest of her life.
Perhaps the tragedy in the world is that most people never met a
person who was happy because of what she did and said and not
because of what others said and did.
LOL, if you think being rich or famous makes people happy. I've
been around rich and famous people. Do you know the problems
they have? The woman in Connecticut had it made, more or less.
Nice house and over $200k a year in alimony and child support.
But she was miserable. Her child was miserable. If she found a
man who loved her, what could she do? It would have be another
rich man or she'd lose the alimony if she married him. I don't
know if she was keeping the child with her to keep the child
support coming in.
It's amazing to me what people will do for money; but what is
that to me? When my Mother died, she had some money saved in
the bank; and that became a problem for a few people. I thought
they were either conniving or lying or perhaps had talked
themselves into believing the things they said. The saddest
thing to me was that I could see they cared more about money
than about me. If that's the way it was, why not let them have
the money? To me, it wasn't worth fighting over. It hurt my
feelings, to be sure; but I had to accept that as part of caring
about them. Pretending I was angry at them would have been a
lie. There are things which make me angry, and I express that
anger; and I can frighten people when I get angry; but the money
made me feel sorry for them. Things would never be the same
between us again since they had shown me they cared more about
money than about me. I knew where they stood and accepted it.
If they could accept that in themselves, then I could.
Should I have argued with them about the facts? Should I have
told them they already had lots more money than I? Should I
have asked them if they loved me that they could that to me? I
say no. Why waste my time on such questions?
It's odd how people can lose me as a friend. A man asked to
borrow $20 from me once. Said he'd pay me back next pay check.
He didn't. I let it go until the next pay check. I thought
maybe he had forgotten. So I brought it up. He paid me. Then
later he asked to borrow money again, so I gave him some. Again
he didn't pay me. Do you think I asked him about it? No. I'd
rather be out the $20 than try to chase him down again for it;
and then if he paid me back, he'd be borrowing it again, and I'd
be back to chasing him again. LOL, let him keep it and end the
game. I don't feel cheated. I feel sorry for him. He could have
had me as a friend. And really, how do I know maybe he really
couldn't afford to pay me back; but he could have tried to
explain it to me if that was true.
I have a rule: Never lend more money to someone than you're
willing to lose. If you follow that rule, you will never be
upset if someone doesn't pay you back. That rule is for my own
happiness. I am selfish that way. I can predict what will and
what won't upset me. I also would say if I lend money to
someone and don't get it back, it's my fault as well as well as
his. I agreed to do it. My decision. I can control that. I
can't control if he pays me back.
My happiness should depend on my decisions. Was I doing the
right and decent thing to lend it? If so, forget it. Why
regret it? Because I got duped? ROFL, that happens sometimes.
But I don't see any reason to get upset if someone else lies to
me. And if I trust a liar again, I surely shouldn't be angry
to find out he duped me again. I've done that too! They told
me lies I wanted to hear. How sorry they were, how much they
cared, etc. The facts were staring me in the face, but I
believed what I wanted to believe. I wanted to think they cared
about me because I cared about them.
Just because I care about someone else is no guarantee he or she
is going to care about me. All I can be sure of is when I care
about someone and that makes me feel hurt; and that's the risk
that comes with caring. The only other option is to say I don't
care about anyone else at all. That would make me miserable.
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Re: Just
By: Laurie Date: December 20, 2012, 8:20 am
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What's up with you lately, George? I'm pretty sure you don't
really think like some of the things you've been writing---but I
am glad you feel you can say it here without getting
cyber-stoned. ;)
I see so much working in a store. Thievery, parents with
questionable parenting skills, rudeness---oh, if I had a nickel
for every time someone ignored my "hello" or acted like I'm
responsible when something is out of stock, my roof would not
be leaking---LOL!
My boss hasn't been handling it very well lately....sometimes
trying to out-rude when he's been ruded. I think he needs a good
vacation away from people. The other day I told him about
waking up really early and not being able to go back to sleep,
and how I figured it'd be a good time to talk to the Lord.
He asked me if I prayed for him...he knows I'm a believer and
that I'm not what would fall under the 'mainstream' label.
The other day he was in one of his 'I hate people' moods, and
caught me looking at him with my 'it'll be okay' smile. Then he
told me, "this isn't me....I am not really like this." I just
said, "I know."
I was glad he felt he could talk to me.
My point? I don't have one....and don't feel I have to have one
when I'm talking to people who I think care about other people.
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Re: Just
By: George Date: December 20, 2012, 9:51 am
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[quote author=Laurie link=topic=292.msg2741#msg2741
date=1356013247]
What's up with you lately, George?
[/quote]
Some personal things, that have been going wrong for a while
and I'm at my wits end, as some would say... Here I am thinking
everything is going well, when I find out a week before
Christmas that everything I hoped was good is actually not and I
have been fooled, Lied to right in my face...
[quote author=Laurie link=topic=292.msg2741#msg2741
date=1356013247]
I'm pretty sure you don't really think like some of the things
you've been writing---but I am glad you feel you can say it here
without getting cyber-stoned. ;)
[/quote]
You are correct in I don't believe in some of the stuff I
post!!! But I do have these thoughts run through my mind... Its
when I really ponder these thoughts that I know are wrong that I
post them here... I know people like Kerry, Yourself, and Others
will reply and try to help get me out of my slump... I do feel
safe to say what I feel here because I think we all have a
mutual love and respect for each other, and we can all lean on
each other when one needs a shoulder to lean on... You may not
believe it but you guys are about my only support I trust and
can count on... I especially thank Kerry, he deals with me more
than anyone knows... At times I've wondered why he hasn't given
up on me and just said, "you got problems my friend"
[quote author=Laurie link=topic=292.msg2741#msg2741
date=1356013247]
I see so much working in a store. Thievery, parents with
questionable parenting skills, rudeness---oh, if I had a nickel
for every time someone ignored my "hello" or acted like I'm
responsible when something is out of stock, my roof would not
be leaking---LOL!
[/quote]
This reminded me of the other day, I was in wal-mart doing some
shopping, when we walked down a row where there was a women
pushing a little toddler in the shopping cart... The toddler
wanted to ride in the back of the cart but she wasn't having
it... She kept yelling at the little boy and I could see she was
frustrated... suddenly he starts to try and stand up to crawl
into the back and she jerked the cart really violently and told
him to sit down and shut up...
About that time she stopped to look at something and we stopped
so Dana could look at something, So I started making funny faces
at the little boy, and when he went to try and stand up again, a
gave him a funny look and pointed my finger at him, kind of like
saying "don't do it" with my facial expressions...
next thing I knew the little boy sat back down and started to
laugh at me... and I smiled back... All of a sudden the women
snatched the cart again and started walking forward and said,
"It's not funny, and whoever is making you laugh is not funny
either...
I asked Dana, did you see that??? First she was mad because he
was fussing and trying to get in the back, now he is calmly
sitting there and laughing with me and she is telling him to
stop laughing and still being mean towards the poor child...
IMO...
I know how aggravating toddlers can be, especially when trying
to shop... But I found if you can make them laugh, it gives them
joy and they will more than likely listen to you a little
better... You don't always have to try and be mean and scare the
child into behaving... apparently that wasn't working for her,
so why did she insist on being mean towards the little boy...
after they walked off I felt bad for the little boy I just
wanted to pick him up out the cart and let him hang out with me
until the mother was finish shopping... I wouldn't dare ask a
stranger to leave there child with me while they shop, but it
would have probably done her some good and me and the little boy
would have had a blast... He just wanted to have some fun, he
couldn't have been over 3 or 4 yrs old...
Thank you for noticing and asking about me, it shows that you
really care!!! And I appreciate that!!!
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