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       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Amadeus Date: June 10, 2013, 11:16 am
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       [quote]Catholics sometimes (if not often) talk a lot more sense
       than Protestants.[/quote]
       [font=courier]Without a doubt, Mike! Catholics have better
       answers at times than Protestants. The Catholic Church has been
       around a long time and they have studied the whole situation and
       are able to see and explain almost anything. They have a answer
       for nearly every problem simply because they have gathered
       together a lot of knowledge and experience. My disagreements
       with them cannot often, if ever, be proven to the satisfaction
       of an unbiased human observer (if such a person exists). Often
       when I am at odds in the open with a Catholic, that Catholic has
       stepped outside of the official position of the RCC. (I say
       often, because, sometimes, it is probably me that missed
       something.)[/font]
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       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Amadeus Date: June 10, 2013, 11:29 am
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       [quote]George: I remember someone (Think Kerry) posted a reply
       with the scripture let God be true, but every man a liar, and
       that really hit home for me and made a lot of sense of all the
       confusion we see in religion in the world today. I would say a
       hypocrite is a liar and a liar is a hypocrite! The scripture say
       every man is a liar, therefore to me a hypocrite, its one in the
       same. So therefor I can see how it is said it is only by Gods
       Grace, I would think according to our actions. Actions one to
       another more so than actions of which religion one chooses, what
       dogmas one lives by, what actions one takes for the purpose of
       salvation such as baptism.[/quote]
       [font=courier]I remember several years ago hearing a very wise
       old preacher say that all preachers, including himself, were
       liars. He is now gone to whatever reward was his, but I remember
       his words. He amplified his statement by explaining that anyone
       whose beliefs were in error in any part and spoke in support of
       his erroneous belief was, in effect, a liar even though it may
       have been unintentional. It was still a lie. Have any of us ever
       been guilty of such an unintentional lie? I most certainly have.
       Until I know, rather than believe, that my beliefs are all
       correct in the eyes of God, isn't it likely that I am still
       telling lies?[/font]
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       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Kerry Date: June 12, 2013, 4:24 pm
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       11:0  To the conductor, of David.
       1  In the Lord put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a
       bird to your mountain?
       Compare to what David said here talking to Saul:
       1 Samuel 26:17 And Saul knew David's voice, and said, Is this
       thy voice, my son David? And David said, It is my voice, my
       lord, O king.
       18 And he said, Wherefore doth my lord thus pursue after his
       servant? for what have I done? or what evil is in mine hand?
       19 Now therefore, I pray thee, let my lord the king hear the
       words of his servant. If the Lord have stirred thee up against
       me, let him accept an offering: but if they be the children of
       men, cursed be they before the Lord; for they have driven me out
       this day from abiding in the inheritance of the Lord, saying,
       Go, serve other gods.
       Solomon compared wandering people to birds which left their
       nest:
       Proverbs 27:8 As a bird that wandereth from her nest, so is a
       man that wandereth from his place.
       2 For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their
       arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the
       upright in heart.
       The "wicked" is  a reference to Doeg, the Edomite, and others
       who made things worse between Saul and David by encouraging Saul
       to hate David.
       "Bend" is not quite strong enough.  "Darak" means "tread."  The
       image is of having such a large and strong bow you have to put
       your foot on one end of it.
       The "upright in heart" were the priests in Nob.
       3 If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
       Doeg was guilty for telling Saul where David had gone and
       stirring up animosity towards Ahimelech and the others.  While
       Saul gave the order, Doeg cannot be excused for his words.  But
       what could David do at that time?
       James 3:5  Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth
       great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth!
       Matthew 12:37  For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by
       thy words thou shalt be condemned.
       4 The Lord is in his holy temple, the Lord's throne is in
       heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.
       Part of the meaning is clear that God although in Heaven can
       still see what is going on earth.  The word "eyelids" is
       ambiguous. The word `aph`aph can mean eyelids perhaps, pupils
       perhaps.  It can also mean rays of light or the dawn.
       I could be wrong but I tend to think it means God appears to
       wink at times, deferring judgment.  This is to test or prove,
       the way gold is tested, the hearts of men.  Do they learn and
       come to repentance?  Paul talked  about   God winking:
       Acts 17:29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we
       ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or
       silver, or stone, graven by art and man's device.
       30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now
       commandeth all men every where to repent:
       31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge
       the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained;
       whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath
       raised him from the dead.
       5 The Lord trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that
       loveth violence his soul hateth.
       The righteous often face tribulations in this world while the
       wicked seem to escape but we should believe that they will
       receive their reward later.
       6 Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and
       an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.
       While this sounds vengeful, it is written so, I believe, because
       wicked men experience correction and purification as vengeance.
       If the wicked receive their rewards  not in this world, then
       they will be purified in Gehinnom.
       7 For the righteous Lord loveth righteousness; his countenance
       doth behold the upright.
       That God loves righteousness in men should be easy to accept;
       and we should not read Isaiah to mean that righteousness is as
       "filthy rags."  Isaiah also talks about iniquities in that
       verse:
       Isaiah 64:6  But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our
       righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a
       leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.
       What is wicked is as temporary as a leaf.  The tree may live,
       but the leaves are driven away in the wind.  Did they serve a
       purpose?  Yes.  And new leaves will grow next year, and the tree
       will grow some more; but what is not worth saving perishes.  Yet
       the leaves are for our healing.
       "His countenance doth behold" is akin to expressions of
       receiving Light from the Face of God.  While no man may behold
       the Face of God and live, the righteous  receive Divine Light
       from the Face of God.  This is somewhat like our eyes which are
       damaged if we look directly at the sun; but the sun still shines
       on us and gives us light.
       Numbers 6:23 24 The Lord bless thee, and keep thee:
       25 The Lord make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto
       thee:
       #Post#: 5103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Kerry Date: June 13, 2013, 8:46 am
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       Psalm 12:0  For the conductor, on the harp, a song of David.
       The harp is the eight-stringed shemenith again.
       1 Help, Lord; for the godly man ceaseth; for the faithful fail
       from among the children of men.
       This appears to be referring to how the Ziphites were willing to
       betray David into the hands of Saul (1 Samuel 23).
       2 They speak vanity every one with his neighbour: with
       flattering lips and with a double heart do they speak.
       "Double heart" is an expression similar to Jame's
       "double-minded."  David is describing the person who smiles at
       you and flatters you when you are around and who may even give
       you aid of some sort; but when you are gone, he betrays you.
       3 The Lord shall cut off all flattering lips, and the tongue
       that speaketh proud things:
       4 Who have said, With our tongue will we prevail; our lips are
       our own: who is lord over us?
       Words are cheap, the saying goes, but words can be dangerous;
       and there is a type of person who thinks he can be the master of
       a situation without much real effort if only he can find the
       words to get others to act.
       5 For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy,
       now will I arise, saith the Lord; I will set him in safety from
       him that puffeth at him.
       David seems to be connected this kind of double-talk with
       wishing to oppress the poor and needy. The reader may reflect on
       how our politians today often use words to rise to power and to
       enrich themselves.
       6 The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a
       furnace of earth, purified seven times.
       "Words" could also be rendered "sayings."  While the sayings of
       God are indeed pure unlike the double-minded talk of deceivers,
       still we may need to purify our own minds in order to discern
       the silver from the dross of our own initial interpretations.
       7 Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from
       this generation for ever.
       I read this to mean God will preserve both the poor and David
       and his band.
       The first "them" is correct, being the usual word chosen in most
       translations; but the second "them" should probably be
       translated as "us."
       "Forever" shows that that generation of wicked men would soon be
       dealt with and they would never again have power to oppress the
       poor and needy.   Other wicked men would arise in future
       generations, but God had a final solution for some of wicked
       people in David's time.  Their evil would be consumed out of the
       earth (Psalm 104:35).
       8 The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are
       exalted.
       The saying goes that it is the darkest before the dawn; and in
       the spiritual history of the world, often the gloomiest of
       periods precede the dawn of a more enlightened age.   Thus
       Solomon was to rule in peace for forty years as the result of
       David's prayers and efforts to extirpate the evil around him.
       Let them attack him -- then they could be dealt with.
       Compare also to what God told Abraham:
       Genesis 15:13 And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy
       seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall
       serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
       14 And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge:
       and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
       15 And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be
       buried in a good old age.
       16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again:
       for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
       The tares finally reveal themselves as tares.  As long as men
       are not entirely corrupted, there is hope for them.  Perhaps
       they will change for the better; but once someone reaches the
       point of total depravity, he is judged.  Do not jump to
       conclusions that this means he is subject to eternal punishment.
       "The vilest men are exalted" is related to Psalm 118 in an
       indirect way.  Christians may think of the "stone" which the
       builders rejected as referring to only Jesus and overlook how it
       refers to David also.
       22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone
       of the corner.
       If we can see how it can apply to both,a pattern begins to
       emerge.
       
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       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Kerry Date: June 15, 2013, 8:23 pm
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       Psalm 13:0 To the conductor, a song of David.
       1 How long wilt thou forget me, O Lord? for ever? how long wilt
       thou hide thy face from me?
       "Me" may be  more than David since may be  asking also of all
       Israel.  One answer is four times:  Babylon, Persia, Greece, and
       Edom. Egypt would have been a fifth but it is behind them. The
       periods of forgetfulness of Babylon, Persia and Greece are over,
       leaving only the hiding of God's face from Israel in the matter
       of the Edomites.
       2 How long shall I take counsel in my soul, having sorrow in my
       heart daily? how long shall mine enemy be exalted over me?
       3 Consider and hear me, O Lord my God: lighten mine eyes, lest I
       sleep the sleep of death;
       Death is sometimes called sleep, of course; and there is a type
       of sleep which is said to last forever.
       Jeremiah 51:37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace
       for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an
       inhabitant.
       38 They shall roar together like lions: they shall yell as
       lions' whelps.
       39 In their heat I will make their feasts, and I will make them
       drunken, that they may rejoice, and sleep a perpetual sleep, and
       not wake, saith the Lord.
       There is another type of death or sleep which is temporary, and
       souls awaken out of it.
       Matthew 27:52  And the graves were opened; and many bodies of
       the saints which slept arose,
       Thus we see that David is asking not to sleep the perpetual
       sleep. If we read only some other passages, we could suppose all
       sleep in the same way; or we could believe all will sleep until
       the Resurrection at the end of the age. We learn here that not
       all sleep this perpetual sleep.
       Note the connection  about light in the eyes. Compare to what
       Jesus said:
       Matthew 6:22  The light of the body is the eye: if therefore
       thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.
       23  But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of
       darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness,
       how great is that darkness!
       4 Lest mine enemy say, I have prevailed against him; and those
       that trouble me rejoice when I am moved.
       If the  the eye is in darkness, one is in some danger of
       entering the darkness and going to sleep perpetually.  Unless
       someone comes along to wake him up, he may be asleep a long time
       or forever.  Thus one's enemies would prevail.
       5 But I have trusted in thy mercy; my heart shall rejoice in thy
       salvation.
       6 I will sing unto the Lord, because he hath dealt bountifully
       with me.
       Those who put their trust in God's mercy with a pure heart have
       nothing to fear.
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       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Kerry Date: June 15, 2013, 8:55 pm
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       Psalm 14:0 For the conductor, of David.
       1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are
       corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that
       doeth good.
       This verse is often pulled out of contexts and interpreted to
       mean atheists are fools.  Does it really say that?  It really
       doesn't.  It says the fool said in his heart there is no God.
       The atheist usually says it in his mind. In other words, the
       atheist cannot produce evidence for God in order to believe; but
       the fool is motivated by by his corrupt heart to say if there is
       no God, he can do as he wants -- therefore wouldn't it be nice
       if there were no God?  THen he believes it because he vainly
       seems to think he can make it true if he believes it.
       We cannot say that all atheists are corrupt and do abominable
       works.
       So what fool is David talking about?  I follow Rashi on this.
       This Psalm is a prophecy concerning the future Nebuchadnezzar.
       He exalted himself and had others worship him as a god.  "They"
       are the men of his armies.
       2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to
       see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
       3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy:
       there is none that doeth good, no, not one.[/b]
       "They" are all his troops since not one objected  when he
       destroyed the Temple.  To the man, they did not think they were
       violating the Temple of God.
       4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my
       people as they eat bread, and call not upon the Lord.
       They did not come to knowledge.
       5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of
       the righteous.
       Perhaps a reference to Belshazzar and his "feast."
       Daniel 5:1 Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand
       of his lords, and drank wine before the thousand.
       2 Belshazzar, whiles he tasted the wine, commanded to bring the
       golden and silver vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had
       taken out of the temple which was in Jerusalem; that the king,
       and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, might drink
       therein.
       3 Then they brought the golden vessels that were taken out of
       the temple of the house of God which was at Jerusalem; and the
       king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, drank in
       them.
       4 They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold, and of silver,
       of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone.
       5 In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote
       over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of
       the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that
       wrote.
       6 Then the king's countenance was changed, and his thoughts
       troubled him, so that the joints of his loins were loosed, and
       his knees smote one against another.
       6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the Lord is
       his refuge.
       Are the poor better advisors than the rich? They are if they put
       their faith in God and not in money or armies and the like.
       7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when
       the Lord bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall
       rejoice, and Israel shall be glad.
       I read this as a prediction of the end of the Babylonian exile
       -- "bringeth back the captivity" should read perhaps "turneth
       back the captivity."
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       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Kerry Date: June 23, 2013, 11:31 am
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       15:0 A song of David.
       1 Lord, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in
       thy holy hill?
       "Tabernacle" is "tent."  God does not live in a tent, of course.
       "Tent" is sometimes used to speak of the spiritual space around
       a being. Thus we read about Ham not respecting the "tent" of his
       father Noah (Genesis 9:21).  The LORD appeared to Abraham as he
       sat in the door of his tent (Genesis 18:1).  Tents are mentioned
       several times in Genesis 33 with the plural given in the
       feminine although the word is masculine, emphasizing how Jacob
       had become one spiritually with Rachel -- thus his tent was
       feminine.
       "Holy hill" is Zion, of course, or Eden, the Garden or Paradise.
       Who will sit down with Abraham in the kingdom?
       2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and
       speaketh the truth in his heart.
       Speaking truth with the tongue is not enough. We must speak it
       in our hearts as well.
       3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his
       neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
       "Backbiteth" could read "slanders."  Slander is akin to murder
       since you can remove a person's life from him through slander by
       turning his friends, neighbors and possibly his family against
       him.  While he may still be alive in his physical body, what
       kind of life is that?
       4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth
       them that fear the Lord. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and
       changeth not.
       Seeing vile people as vile is one of the requirements for
       dwelling with God. If we honor the vile person along with the
       virtuous, we are unjust and encouraging wickedness and
       discouraging virtue.  For this reason Ahaz was not buried in the
       royal sepulchres.
       2 Chronicles 28:27 And Ahaz slept with his fathers, and they
       buried him in the city, even in Jerusalem: but they brought him
       not into the sepulchres of the kings of Israel: and Hezekiah his
       son reigned in his stead.
       There is a tradition that Hezekiah even showed disrespect for
       his vile father by having his body dragged through the streets.
       The commandment to "honor thy father" has its limits.   We ought
       never pretend someone is worthy of honor because of a family
       relationship. For this reason Abraham also deserted his father
       who was an idol maker.  There are times when earthly fathers
       have thrown away their "cards" that say "father" on them; and
       children must see God as their father since they lack earthly
       parents worthy of the name.
       For this reason also, when a Gentile converted to Judaism, his
       earthly parents were considered dead to him.  He was considered
       to be "born again" into the new family of Israel.
       "Honors the God-fearing" sounds easy to apply but is it?  I fear
       it may be difficult indeed.  We are easily tempted to condemn
       others if they disagree with us about doctrines; but do they
       fear God?  Are they sincere?  Oh, it can be easy to disobey
       this, while we may even honor the vile because they agree with
       us.
       "Swears to his own hurt" is also hard to follow.  It may be easy
       to do this in court if we never get called to court; but what
       about in daily life?  Do we accept the blame if need be to save
       others trouble?
       "Changeth not" means to do what we say.  He does not take a vow
       or say he will do something and then neglect to do it if things
       become hard.  Some people promise things when it looks to their
       advantage; but when circumstances change and it looks to their
       disadvantage, they change their minds and break their word.   If
       we betray ourselves by breaking our word, whom would we not
       betray?
       Nevertheless if we speak rashly and err in a vow even, it is
       better to change course than to continue in the error.  It is a
       matter of commitment.  We ought not to betray others.  I would
       say if you tell someone you will not help him, you are free to
       change your mind and help him; but if you promise to help him,
       you should not feel free to change your mind since you are
       letting him down when he may be counting on you.   You would not
       be betraying him or letting him down by helping him after saying
       you would not.
       Matthew 21:28 But what think ye? A certain man had two sons; and
       he came to the first, and said, Son, go work to day in my
       vineyard.
       29 He answered and said, I will not: but afterward he repented,
       and went.
       30 And he came to the second, and said likewise. And he answered
       and said, I go, sir: and went not.
       31 Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say
       unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto
       you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of
       God before you.
       32 For John came unto you in the way of righteousness, and ye
       believed him not: but the publicans and the harlots believed
       him: and ye, when ye had seen it, repented not afterward, that
       ye might believe him.
       The second son will not dwell on God's Holy Hill according to
       David.
       5 He that putteth not out his money to usury, nor taketh reward
       against the innocent. He that doeth these things shall never be
       moved.
       Usury, especially when lending money to friends and family, is
       something few people today think about.
       A "reward against the innocent" is taking sides by being bribed.
       Today that can take subtle forms also.  When we vote, are we
       taking a bribe or the promise of a bribe from a politician?  Do
       we want innocent people harmed to enrich ourselves?
       Now let me add a personal note.  When I was an atheist, I
       decided to read the Bible all the way through.  I said if God
       was real and the Bible meant anything, maybe something would
       happen.  I read through all the books without anything happening
       until I read this Psalm.  When I read it, I was struck by how
       little God asks of us.  It really is simple.  If we can do these
       things, that is all God wants.   Then I knew God was real and
       David was a prophet.
       Then I realized also that as easy as it sounded, I could not do
       these things. As simple as it was, I couldn't do it.  I needed
       help.  Remember I was not a Christian then; but I could see the
       need for someone to help me. The idea of a Messiah made sense to
       me.  So my next question was if Jesus was the Messiah. That is
       another story; but Psalm 15 will always be important to me.
       Strange how a Psalm put me on the path to believing in Jesus.
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       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Kerry Date: July 2, 2013, 5:17 pm
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       Psalm 16:0 A michtam of David.
       This introduction is omitted in many Bibles.  A michtam is a
       "golden Psalm." Six Psalms are called this:  This one, and
       numbers 56 to 60.
       1 Preserve me, O God: for in thee do I put my trust.
       2 O my soul, thou hast said unto the Lord, Thou art my Lord: my
       goodness extendeth not to thee;
       "O my soul" is added, shown in the KJV by italics. It could be
       that is  David is talking to others here.  It could read as
       Young's Literal Translation has it, "Thou has said to Jehovah"
       or "You should say to the LORD."
       "My goodness extendeth not to thee" is obscure.  It means the
       goodness God does for us is not something God does for us
       because we deserve it.
       3 But to the saints that are in the earth, and to the excellent,
       in whom is all my delight.
       Why "in" the earth and not "on" the earth?  Again, this is
       ambiguous. It could be read as hope in the resurrection.  It
       could mean the living saints "on" the earth, or it could mean
       the saints resting "in" the earth. "Saints" means "set aside
       ones" just as vessels are consecrated and set aside for sacred
       purposes only.
       The "excellent" is more often translated in the KJV as "nobles."
       
       4 Their sorrows shall be multiplied that hasten after another
       god: their drink offerings of blood will I not offer, nor take
       up their names into my lips.
       5 The Lord is the portion of mine inheritance and of my cup:
       thou maintainest my lot.
       This can be read as a reference to the wine and lamb of Passover
       when people were counted to make sure there was enough lamb for
       everyone but also not too much.
       Exodus 12:4 And if the household be too little for the lamb, let
       him and his neighbour next unto his house take it according to
       the number of the souls; every man according to his eating shall
       make your count for the lamb.
       "Maintainest my lot" may mean to choose as God chose for us:
       Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day
       against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing
       and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed
       may live:
       Another possibility is that whatever our lot in life is, we
       should say, "It is well with my soul," confident that as Paul
       wrote in Romans 8:28 "all things works together for the good to
       them that love God,  to them who are the called according to his
       purpose."
       6 The lines are fallen unto me in pleasant places; yea, I have a
       goodly heritage.
       7 I will bless the Lord, who hath given me counsel: my reins
       also instruct me in the night seasons.
       The Jews say Abraham kept the Law of God even before Moses wrote
       it.  They use this verse to explain how this could be, saying
       God instructed Abraham at night.  Compare this to what Elihu
       said:
       Job 33:14 For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth
       it not.
       15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth
       upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;
       16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their
       instruction,
       17 That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride
       from man.
       18 He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from
       perishing by the sword.
       8 I have set the Lord always before me: because he is at my
       right hand, I shall not be moved.
       9 Therefore my heart is glad, and my glory rejoiceth: my flesh
       also shall rest in hope.
       10 For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou
       suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
       The New Testament takes this verse and applies it to Jesus; but
       it is true also of David despite the seeming comment in Acts
       that it isn't. The speech in Acts 2 appears confused to me.  It
       is also true of everyone who trusts in God to raise him up in
       the resurrection.
       11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is
       fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for
       evermore.
       "Path" could also read "way."  I believe this is a description
       what David sees and trusts God for in the future.
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       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Kerry Date: November 24, 2013, 10:45 pm
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       Psalm 17:0 A prayer of David,
       1 Hear the right, O Lord, attend unto my cry, give ear unto my
       prayer, that goeth not out of feigned lips.
       2 Let my sentence come forth from thy presence; let thine eyes
       behold the things that are equal.
       David is not bragging here about his upright acts; rather he is
       asking God to see what is good and not only what is not.  If we
       are trying to do what is right and doing somethings right,
       surely God is willing to see those merits; and this is surely
       how we all pray, is it not?
       3 Thou hast proved mine heart; thou hast visited me in the
       night; thou hast tried me, and shalt find nothing; I am purposed
       that my mouth shall not transgress.
       Some say this Psalm is about his test with Bathsheba.  God knows
       David's sin in the matter, so there is nothing new for God to
       find there.
       "My mouth shall not transgress"  means that if David's mind does
       turn to his past error of asking to be tried (Psalm 26:1-2), he
       won't say it again with his mouth.
       4 Concerning the works of men, by the word of thy lips I have
       kept me from the paths of the destroyer.
       5 Hold up my goings in thy paths, that my footsteps slip not.
       He relies on the Word of God to keep him on the right path.
       Compare to:
       Psalm 119:105  Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto
       my path.
       Of course, he is not talking about the "Bible" since most of the
       Bible wasn't written yet.  He is talking about walking in the
       Light of God -- hearing first of all the Word, "Let there be
       Light," and then hearing the other words.
       6 I have called upon thee, for thou wilt hear me, O God: incline
       thine ear unto me, and hear my speech.
       Here David's faith in God is evident.  We are doubting the
       goodness of God if we pray sincerely and then wonder if He will
       hear us.  Such doubts may indeed mean we are praying not to the
       One True God but a god of our own imagination, a deaf god who
       lacks mercy and love.    We should have confidence then when
       praying, as much confidence as the baby has when he cries to get
       his mother's attention.   A baby's cry shows his belief that a
       loving response is at hand.
       7 Shew thy marvellous lovingkindness, O thou that savest by thy
       right hand them which put their trust in thee from those that
       rise up against them.
       8 Keep me as the apple of the eye, hide me under the shadow of
       thy wings,
       The apple of the eye may be the pupil.   In the physical world,
       the image we see on a pupil depends on what is "out there."  Is
       that the way it is spiritually?   Or is it perhaps the other way
       around -- that we exist first in the eye of God and then take
       form "out here."  Which is more real?  The way we perceive
       ourselves now, or the way God sees we shall be in the future?
       Does  God  have wings? Can  there be a shadow?  What light would
       cast the shadow?  We can say a shadow shares a shape or form
       with the real object.  Shadow in Hebrew is tsel -- image (as in
       image and likeness) is tselem.  We are made in His "shadow," you
       might say.
       9 From the wicked that oppress me, from my deadly enemies, who
       compass me about.
       They were also the enemies of God.
       10 They are inclosed in their own fat: with their mouth they
       speak proudly.
       They are depicted as greedy men given to insatiable lusts like
       gluttony.  Compare to:
       Deuteronomy 32:15  But Jeshurun waxed fat, and kicked: thou art
       waxen fat, thou art grown thick, thou art covered with fatness;
       then he forsook God which made him, and lightly esteemed the
       Rock of his salvation.
       Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in
       purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
       20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid
       at his gate, full of sores,
       21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the
       rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
       1 Corinthians 6:13  Meats for the belly, and the belly for
       meats: but God shall destroy both it and them. Now the body is
       not for fornication, but for the Lord; and the Lord for the
       body.
       11 They have now compassed us in our steps: they have set their
       eyes bowing down to the earth;
       12 Like as a lion that is greedy of his prey, and as it were a
       young lion lurking in secret places.
       There is a type of evil person who seeks good people as prey,
       almost like something to be killed and devoured.  They may dress
       up in sheep's clothing at times to disguise themselves, but
       "inwardly they are ravening wolves."  (Matthew 7:15)
       13 Arise, O Lord, disappoint him, cast him down: deliver my soul
       from the wicked, which is thy sword:
       14 From men which are thy hand, O Lord, from men of the world,
       which have their portion in this life, and whose belly thou
       fillest with thy hid treasure: they are full of children, and
       leave the rest of their substance to their babes.
       "From men which have their portions in this life" refers to
       those men with a few good deeds and God rewards them for their
       few good deeds with all the good they deserve.   Thus when they
       die, God does not need to reward them any more. Compare to:
       Luke 16:25  But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy
       lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil
       things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
       Matthew 6:2  Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound
       a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues
       and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I
       say unto you, They have their reward.
       15 As for me, I will behold thy face in righteousness: I shall
       be satisfied, when I awake, with thy likeness.
       Does this not contradict the statement given to Moses?
       Exodus 33:20  And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there
       shall no man see me, and live.
       Perhaps it does not.  Someone once said this verse means no man
       may see the face of God . . . and remain living as a man.  David
       says he will behold the face of God when he awakens.
       #Post#: 6820--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Thoughts on the Psalms 
       By: Kerry Date: January 31, 2014, 7:37 am
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       Psalm 18:0  (ASV -- not KJV) For the Chief Musician. A Psalm of
       David the servant of Jehovah, who spake unto Jehovah the words
       of this song in the day that Jehovah delivered him from the hand
       of all his enemies, and from the hand of Saul: and he said,
       The introduction is not in all versions.
       1 I will love thee, O Lord, my strength.
       This should be in the present tense, not future, as the
       introduction shows.
       2 The Lord is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my
       God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn
       of my salvation, and my high tower.
       Rock has two meanings.  The first is:
       Deuteronomy 32:4  He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all
       his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just
       and right is he.
       The second is:
       2 Samuel 23:25 Saul also and his men went to seek him. And they
       told David; wherefore he came down into a rock, and abode in the
       wilderness of Maon. And when Saul heard that, he pursued after
       David in the wilderness of Maon.
       26 And Saul went on this side of the mountain, and David and his
       men on that side of the mountain: and David made haste to get
       away for fear of Saul; for Saul and his men compassed David and
       his men round about to take them.
       27 But there came a messenger unto Saul, saying, Haste thee, and
       come; for the Philistines have invaded the land.
       28 Wherefore Saul returned from pursuing after David, and went
       against the Philistines: therefore they called that place
       Selahammahlekoth.
       Selahammahlekoth means cliff of escapes.  Compare also to:
       Job 24:8  They are wet with the showers of the mountains, and
       embrace the rock for want of a shelter.
       Back to the Psalm:
       3 I will call upon the Lord, who is worthy to be praised: so
       shall I be saved from mine enemies.
       "Will call" should read "call," again in the present tense.
       "Shall be saved" is correct.
       4 The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly
       men made me afraid.
       This more literally reads, "bands of sheol" or "cords of sheol"
       encompassed me.  "Floods of ungodly men" could be read also as
       "streams of scoundrels" or "floods of Belial."
       5 The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death
       prevented me.
       6 In my distress I called upon the Lord, and cried unto my God:
       he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him,
       even into his ears.
       If the soul in hell could only remember to call on God, he could
       be rescued.   The problem for souls in hell is that they often
       cannot remember things.  Their mental state is like a nightmare
       in which no volition exists, in which things happen and the soul
       reacts without knowing why.  This nightmarish forgetfulness of
       the soul is what Solomon describes:
       Psalm 6:5  For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the
       grave who shall give thee thanks?
       
       The state of death is lack of all awareness. In sheol, the soul
       may call to God if it can remember.  In this Psalm however, the
       language is describing the enemies of David figuratively as
       bands of men from the nether world; but there are spiritual
       connections to the denizens of hell.
       7 Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the
       hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth.
       8 There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his
       mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
       9 He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was
       under his feet.
       10 And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon
       the wings of the wind.
       The LORD may travel in any of the four vehicles or cherubim.
       Here He is said to ride on one, flying on the wing of the wind
       or spirit since ruach can mean either wind or spirit.
       11 He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about
       him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
       Compare to what Solomon said:
       2 Chronicles 6:1  Then said Solomon, The Lord hath said that he
       would dwell in the thick darkness.
       12 At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds
       passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
       2 Chronicles 7:1 Now when Solomon had made an end of praying,
       the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering
       and the sacrifices; and the glory of the Lord filled the house.
       2 And the priests could not enter into the house of the Lord,
       because the glory of the Lord had filled the Lord's house.
       3 And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came
       down, and the glory of the Lord upon the house, they bowed
       themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and
       worshipped, and praised the Lord, saying, For he is good; for
       his mercy endureth for ever.
       Or to use the language of Isaiah:
       Isaiah 42:16  And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew
       not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will
       make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight.
       These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them.
       13 The Lord also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave
       his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
       The hail is solidified water -- symbolic of solid ideas which
       come down from Heaven to the earth.  The coals of fire show
       purifying energy of a seraphic nature. These coals are small;
       but some are larger too as the burning stars which fall in
       Revelation.
       14 Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot
       out lightnings, and discomfited them.
       15 Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of
       the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O Lord, at the blast of
       the breath of thy nostrils.
       These actions of the LORD are the result of David's prayer. We
       are not told a mountain is picked up and moved into the ocean;
       but the action is similar.
       16 He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many
       waters.
       As the LORD also made the great fish expel Jonah onto dry land.
       Jonah was in sheol or hell, he said, at the bottom of the
       mountains.
       17 He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which
       hated me: for they were too strong for me.
       18 They prevented me in the day of my calamity: but the Lord was
       my stay.
       19 He brought me forth also into a large place; he delivered me,
       because he delighted in me.
       20 The Lord rewarded me according to my righteousness; according
       to the cleanness of my hands hath he recompensed me.
       21 For I have kept the ways of the Lord, and have not wickedly
       departed from my God.
       22 For all his judgments were before me, and I did not put away
       his statutes from me.
       23 I was also upright before him, and I kept myself from mine
       iniquity.
       Note that David does not say he was perfect.   He knew his own
       iniquity and did not act on it.  Blessed indeed is he who can
       perceive the evil urge in himself and know not to act on it.
       24 Therefore hath the Lord recompensed me according to my
       righteousness, according to the cleanness of my hands in his
       eyesight.
       25 With the merciful thou wilt shew thyself merciful; with an
       upright man thou wilt shew thyself upright;
       Is it not just of God to treat us as we treat others (Matthew
       18:23-35)?  Consider too the possibility that this means we are
       apt to create God in our own image and He allows us to think
       this is so.  So what kind of God do we hope for? Perhaps we
       should figure this out, and then try to behave that way
       ourselves.
       26 With the pure thou wilt shew thyself pure; and with the
       froward thou wilt shew thyself froward.
       It may be wise to consider this wisdom when reading the Bible.
       How we interpret the Bible may say more about us than it says
       about God.  William Blake wrote, "Both read the Bible day and
       night, But thou read'st black where I read white."  Paul wrote:
       Titus 1:15  Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them
       that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their
       mind and conscience is defiled.
       27 For thou wilt save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down
       high looks.
       28 For thou wilt light my candle: the Lord my God will enlighten
       my darkness.
       This could be a reference to David's battle with the Amalekites
       at night.
       1 Samuel 30:17 And David smote them from the twilight even unto
       the evening of the next day: and there escaped not a man of
       them, save four hundred young men, which rode upon camels, and
       fled.
       29 For by thee I have run through a troop; and by my God have I
       leaped over a wall.
       30 As for God, his way is perfect: the word of the Lord is
       tried: he is a buckler to all those that trust in him.
       31 For who is God save the Lord? or who is a rock save our God?
       32 It is God that girdeth me with strength, and maketh my way
       perfect.
       33 He maketh my feet like hinds' feet, and setteth me upon my
       high places.
       Why female deer? There is debate among American hunters if the
       sex of a deer can be determined by its tracks; and I do not know
       myself; but Rashi was of the opinion that the feet stand
       straighter on female deer than on male deer.
       34 He teacheth my hands to war, so that a bow of steel is broken
       by mine arms.
       This should read brass, of course.  It's usually  translated as
       brass but it's rendered brass in two other places as well as
       here.  It is said he did have bows of copper and could bend
       them.
       35 Thou hast also given me the shield of thy salvation: and thy
       right hand hath holden me up, and thy gentleness hath made me
       great.
       Perhaps translators could not conceive how God could have
       humility; but if you consider the matter, you may conclude that
       God is perfectly humble and lacking in any human defects such as
       pride or arrogance.  This should read "humility" and not
       "gentleness."
       36 Thou hast enlarged my steps under me, that my feet did not
       slip.
       Giving him a wide stride thus making it more difficult to fall.
       
       37 I have pursued mine enemies, and overtaken them: neither did
       I turn again till they were consumed.
       38 I have wounded them that they were not able to rise: they are
       fallen under my feet.
       39 For thou hast girded me with strength unto the battle: thou
       hast subdued under me those that rose up against me.
       40 Thou hast also given me the necks of mine enemies; that I
       might destroy them that hate me.
       They would expose their necks when turning to flee.
       41 They cried, but there was none to save them: even unto the
       Lord, but he answered them not.
       Indeed God does not answer all prayers.  We should remember that
       David is talking here about men who attacked him first out of
       hatred.  It is dangerous indeed to attack the servants of God.
       Will God grant mercy to such villains who ask for help only out
       of fear?
       42 Then did I beat them small as the dust before the wind: I did
       cast them out as the dirt in the streets.
       43 Thou hast delivered me from the strivings of the people; and
       thou hast made me the head of the heathen: a people whom I have
       not known shall serve me.
       44 As soon as they hear of me, they shall obey me: the strangers
       shall submit themselves unto me.
       45 The strangers shall fade away, and be afraid out of their
       close places.
       46 The Lord liveth; and blessed be my rock; and let the God of
       my salvation be exalted.
       47 It is God that avengeth me, and subdueth the people under me.
       48 He delivereth me from mine enemies: yea, thou liftest me up
       above those that rise up against me: thou hast delivered me from
       the violent man.
       49 Therefore will I give thanks unto thee, O Lord, among the
       heathen, and sing praises unto thy name.
       50 Great deliverance giveth he to his king; and sheweth mercy to
       his anointed, to David, and to his seed for evermore.
       "Anointed" could be translated as "Messiah" of course.
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