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       #Post#: 34210--------------------------------------------------
       *Just a reminder …*
       By: Justaname Date: June 9, 2023, 9:04 am
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       I just looked at the Forum Rules as I haven’t read them for
       many years now.
       Good to be reminded I think .
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       10.  No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
       nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
       should not judge them by a group they may be in.
       12.  If you see what you consider infractions of the rules,
       please notify the moderators.  Do not try to handle things
       yourself. That can make things worse.
       Violations of these rules may result in  a warning  (either
       private or public), suspension of certain privileges, or
       banning.
       ———-
       End of quote.
       It would be nice if rule # 10 was still taken seriously .
       Just saying …
       #Post#: 34212--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: Kerry Date: June 9, 2023, 10:19 am
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=1564.msg34210#msg34210
       date=1686319457]
       I just looked at the Forum Rules as I haven’t read them for many
       years now.
       Good to be reminded I think .
       Quote
       10.  No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
       nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
       should not judge them by a group they may be in.
       12.  If you see what you consider infractions of the rules,
       please notify the moderators.  Do not try to handle things
       yourself. That can make things worse.
       Violations of these rules may result in  a warning  (either
       private or public), suspension of certain privileges, or
       banning.
       ———-
       End of quote.
       It would be nice if rule # 10 was still taken seriously .
       Just saying …
       [/quote]I too think it would nice if people took the rules more
       seriously; and  I wonder what I should do at times.    If people
       violate the rules and no one complains,  I tend to do little or
       nothing.   If people want to quarrel, who am I to tell them to
       stop on my own?  That would be like having the police entering
       homes to make sure the people aren't breaking any laws.   People
       need  to call the police if they feel others are breaking the
       law.
       #Post#: 34216--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: Justaname Date: June 9, 2023, 10:41 am
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       Well my brother I am “calling in the police “ [emoji4]
       I’d like a curtain member to be ‘called to account ‘ and to be
       held to the rule # 10 as stated in the Nuts and Bolts Forum
       Rules Thread.
       Quote - 10.  No derogatory remarks of other religions,
       But , if I am seen as a trouble maker then I’ll just say no
       more.
       I didn’t start on here to make trouble. Sorry if I’ve caused you
       problems .
       …….H
       #Post#: 34220--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: Giuliano Date: June 9, 2023, 12:09 pm
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=1564.msg34216#msg34216
       date=1686325310]
       Well my brother I am “calling in the police “ [emoji4]
       I’d like a curtain member to be ‘called to account ‘ and to be
       held to the rule # 10 as stated in the Nuts and Bolts Forum
       Rules Thread.
       Quote - 10.  No derogatory remarks of other religions,
       But , if I am seen as a trouble maker then I’ll just say no
       more.
       I didn’t start on here to make trouble. Sorry if I’ve caused you
       problems .
       …….H
       [/quote]
       What?  I just logged in as Giuliano and see no reported posts.
       It's got to be an official complaint before I'll look to see
       officially what's going on and who if anyone is causing trouble.
       If two people are going at it publicly,  maybe that's what they
       want to do.   If either or both want me to look at things, then
       I will.
       No problem here, at least not yet.
       
       #Post#: 34221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: Justaname Date: June 9, 2023, 1:22 pm
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       Hmmm okay , then I guess it is ‘ my bad ‘ as they say .
       …I thought that a reference and open reminder to all of us ,
       including the Admin ,ref rule #10 , would be enough …but guess
       not …
       No worries…Let all continue as it is…
       #Post#: 34223--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: meshak Date: June 9, 2023, 7:21 pm
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       [quote author=Helen link=topic=1564.msg34221#msg34221
       date=1686334934]
       Hmmm okay , then I guess it is ‘ my bad ‘ as they say .
       …I thought that a reference and open reminder to all of us ,
       including the Admin ,ref rule #10 , would be enough …but guess
       not …
       No worries…Let all continue as it is…
       [/quote]
       10.  No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
       nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
       should not judge them by a group they may be in.
       So who do you think offended this rule?
       How?
       Would you clarify?
       thank you.
       #Post#: 34224--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: Giuliano Date: June 9, 2023, 8:10 pm
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       [quote author=meshak link=topic=1564.msg34223#msg34223
       date=1686356516]
       10.  No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
       nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
       should not judge them by a group they may be in.
       So who do you think offended this rule?
       How?
       Would you clarify?
       thank you.
       [/quote]
       I ask if you are following the Golden Rule as the rules suggest
       we all do?  You deleted posts by Helen.  Does that mean you want
       her to delete your posts in her threads?  Would that make you
       feel better?     It makes me think perhaps that is so.  You seem
       to crave rejection from others.  This is a mystery to me.  I
       worry about you, and I think Helen is worrying about you too
       even if you don't see it that way.  Helen also is showing she
       cares about  others who may be offended by your posts.  It's not
       just me; it's not just you; it's not just Helen; we all should
       care about everyone else.
       You may say you are here to spread your "truth"; but if that is
       so, why not keep to your own threads?  Why seek answers about
       what Helen has to say?  Just sayin'.
       #Post#: 34225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: meshak Date: June 9, 2023, 10:42 pm
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       [quote author=Giuliano link=topic=1564.msg34224#msg34224
       date=1686359432]
       I ask if you are following the Golden Rule as the rules suggest
       we all do?  You deleted posts by Helen.  Does that mean you want
       her to delete your posts in her threads?  Would that make you
       feel better?     It makes me think perhaps that is so.  You seem
       to crave rejection from others.  This is a mystery to me.  I
       worry about you, and I think Helen is worrying about you too
       even if you don't see it that way.  Helen also is showing she
       cares about  others who may be offended by your posts.  It's not
       just me; it's not just you; it's not just Helen; we all should
       care about everyone else.
       You may say you are here to spread your "truth"; but if that is
       so, why not keep to your own threads?  Why seek answers about
       what Helen has to say?  Just sayin'.
       [/quote]
       It is obvious Helen was indicating that I broke the rule.
       I don't believe I did.
       All I did was tell the Bible fact.
       We are all professed believers.
       So I have to defend the credibility that she is attempting to
       smear.
       Actually, she is the one who has been falsely witnessing against
       the Bible.
       She has no business making accusations against the Bible's
       truth.
       BTW, Kerry,
       I worry about your sense of fairness or discernment of what is
       right or wrong.
       #Post#: 34227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: Giuliano Date: June 10, 2023, 10:27 am
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       Meshak,
       I have moved this thread since I do not want discussions about
       moderation problems being discussed in the main forum.  This
       way, people are free to say what they want without worrying
       about what a moderator may do.  Read Rule 13.  So far, no one
       has actually "argued" with the moderation, but it seems close.
       13.  No public arguing with the moderators. If you have a
       concern, feel free to contact a moderator by  PM.
       [quote author=meshak link=topic=1564.msg34225#msg34225
       date=1686368558]
       It is obvious Helen was indicating that I broke the
       rule.[/quote]
       Why did you ask who then?  Why not be direct instead of trying
       to be sly?
       [quote]I don't believe I did.[/quote]Starting the thread about
       Helen was a violation of the rules.
       6.  No threads in the main section about  other members.  If
       it's  personal, please keep it in the Lounge where personal
       interaction is encouraged since it is visible only to other
       members and not to guests.
       I moved that thread to Free for All for the same reason I moved
       this thread and the thread Helen started about you.  I do not
       like to punish people if they make mistakes without knowing
       about it.  To her credit, Helen read the rules.  I doubt she'll
       repeat herself and start another thread about you.  You also
       violated another rule:
       10.  No derogatory remarks of other religions, races,
       nationalities, etc. Remember that people are individuals and we
       should not judge them by a group they may be in.
       You are too quick to attack entire groups of people.  Try to
       remember that many people believe what they were taught.  Do not
       attribute sin to people for simply believing what they were
       taught.  That rule means also not to attack "any" religion as a
       group. That includes religions that have nothing to do with
       Jesus.  Your constant railing against "trins" is a violation of
       the rules.   I have also told you previously elsewhere that I
       find that term insulting; but you persisted in using it.  If you
       can't type Trinitarians, what is wrong with you?  Why refuse to
       capitalize the word?  Why reduce it to some kind of slang?  If
       anyone else had used the "report" button for your using that
       word, I would have taken action against you for your rudeness.
       As it is, I do not want to impose my own sense of what is
       proper on anyone else here.  I do not want to be a dictator; but
       if someone else agrees with me, that is a different matter.
       [quote]All I did was tell the Bible fact.
       We are all professed believers.
       So I have to defend the credibility that she is attempting to
       smear.
       Actually, she is the one who has been falsely witnessing against
       the Bible.
       She has no business making accusations against the Bible's
       truth.[/quote]
       You have a very high opinion of yourself, Meshak, if you believe
       you alone know how to read the Bible.  From what I see, you tend
       to focus on a few verses and ignore the rest just as you ignored
       me when I asked you if you were obeying the Golden Rule.
       [quote]BTW, Kerry,
       I worry about your sense of fairness or discernment of what is
       right or wrong.
       [/quote]I wish you would worry more about not creating problems
       here.  I do not enjoy acting as  a judge making decisions.  I
       believe two Christians could smooth things out between
       themselves without a third  party acting as a judge.  If backed
       into a corner, I will act as a judge if that is the only way to
       get peace.
       I realize we are not in a church here; but it is a community of
       sorts.  I try to follow what Jesus said about resolving
       problems.
       Matthew 20:15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against
       thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if
       he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
       16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two
       more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may
       be established.
       17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the
       church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto
       thee as an heathen man and a publican.
       So far, no one has filed a report against you with me; but if
       such a report gets filed, the situation will change.   I am
       sorry if you offended other people in the past and sorry you
       offended Helen; but I applaud them for their Christian charity
       and not seeking revenge.  There is a limit to this however.  You
       are in the middle of too many conflicts, and you start conflicts
       with your intolerant tone and persistent ignoring of the rules.
       I do not enjoy saying this; but you remind me of a wolf
       pretending to be a shepherd.  I see you that way; but I also see
       you as still mentally influenced by how many leaders in the
       Jehovah's Witnesses behave.  You are imitating them perhaps
       thinking it works for them so it will work for you.
       Know this please.   I have known a few Jehovah's Witnesses who
       struck me as very fine and loving people.  I've also known one
       who was a monster; and leaders in his congregation were horrible
       too in how they handled things.  While I agree with them that
       God is one, that does not make all Jehovah's Witnesses good or
       all of them evil.   The people who conspired to have Jesus put
       to death were not Trinitarians, but their teaching that God is
       one was not enough to make them into good people.   There are
       also good Trinitarians and bad ones.
       I believe God will hold us accountable for the truth we know.
       We will not be condemned for being mistaken or for being
       uninformed.  Who could be saved if we had to know every thing?
       Let me close trying to explain the rules here.  I am not a
       literalist when it comes to the laws of Moses.  Those laws are
       correct if we interpret them with the right spirit.  Therefore
       I try not to judge people for trivial "literal" breaking of the
       rules here.
       #Post#: 34228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: *Just a reminder …*
       By: meshak Date: June 10, 2023, 2:36 pm
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       [quote author=Giuliano link=topic=1564.msg34227#msg34227
       date=1686410836]
       You are too quick to attack entire groups of people.[/quote]
       It is according to what the Bible says.
       You cannot find anything that I claim a false or a lie.
       If you do, why don't you show it to me?
       You don't seem to know much about what the Bible says.  Yes, I
       am lumping you with the majority I am talking about.
       I did not address everything that you said because it is showing
       ignorance of the Bible.
       If I address all the unbiblical things you guys are saying it
       will be the whole book.
       Your judgments are so unbiblical.  Yes, I am lumping you with
       the majority of believers I am talking about too.
       BTW, I did not ask Helen specifically because she attacked me in
       so many ways and I know she will be doing the same over and
       over.
       That's what she has been doing when I address the majority of
       believers' false god-whooshing spirit.
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