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The Eyes of God
By: Kerry Date: May 16, 2021, 8:04 am
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Let us start with these two passages which say the eyes of the
LORD run to and fro through the whole earth.
2 Chronicles 16:9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro
throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf
of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done
foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.
Zechariah 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things?
for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of
Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD,
which run to and fro through the whole earth.
So the question is why do the eyes of God run, and why are the
cherubim said to be full of eyes?
Ezekiel 1:18 As for their rings, they were so high that they
were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about
them four.
Ezekiel 10:12 And their whole body, and their backs, and their
hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round
about, even the wheels that they four had.
Revelation 4:6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass
like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round
about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and
behind.
Revelation 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings
about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not
day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty,
which was, and is, and is to come.
Why is the Lamb said to have seven eyes?
Revelation 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne
and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a
Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes,
which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the
earth.
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: paralambano Date: May 16, 2021, 1:57 pm
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Back in the day multiple seals were used to seal a testament, so
seven would represent a testament which was complete. There were
seven witnesses, each with a seal. The number of seals would
represent what the legal deal was about (money, property,
service, etc.)
The Book with the seven seals is written on the front and back
parallel to the tablets of the Mosaic commandments.
Christ, the slain Lamb is worthy to unseal the "Book". The
heavenly court:
The seven eyes harken back to God's (Spirit's) seeing His good
creation in Gen 1 seven times. The seven horns of the Lamb is
symbolic of complete victory, Joshua's at Jericho.
The cherubim ought to be seen in connection with the 4 living
creatures: Lion, Bull, Man, Eagle. These are four Zodaical
sections (the visting Magi had reckoned correctly) and chapters
as John's vision proceeds one-by-one by them in his revelation
(vision).
Four represents the four winds, four "corners"of the earth, an
altar, etc., but for me, ultimately the four-square city of Holy
Consciousness (New Jerusalem), but I won't digress by it by my
paradigm for now.
God is symbolized riding on the cherubim and on the four winds
in scripture. I take this to mean that God is Lord Omnipresence
of His spiritual, Gen 1 creation. Divine Consciousness sees it
all 360. He Is All-in-All. Jesus has the All Divine
Consciousness. We too 360 ultimately as reports have shown, but
again I don't want to digress here.
Kerry, you might know that John had Ezekiel's Book as the most
referred one in the canon by his Apocalypse. No other Book
refers to another's as much as John's refers to Ezekiel's if I'm
not mistaken.
The Apocalypse is actually a spiritually legal document written
in the form of ancient treaties. It's also a "get". It was meant
for believers who would understand its symbolism to ready
themselves for translation prior to the parousia before
Jerusalem's judgment.
para . . . .
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: Kerry Date: May 17, 2021, 8:55 pm
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P,
Your post raised this question for me: If man is one of the
cherubim, what about the eyes of man? We're told Adam and Eve
had eyes, but they weren't opened at first. Any thoughts? I'm
still revolving the question around in my mind.
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: paralambano Date: May 18, 2021, 7:05 am
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Kerry - ^
As I understand it, spiritual man was created very good, meaning
being in the image and likeness of very God (Spirit) seeing 360.
Divine Consciousness as God's seeing.
The lie comes along and says you'll see another kind of creation
if you "buy" me, and so matter "hides" from Spirit.
para . . . .
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: Kerry Date: May 18, 2021, 7:08 am
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[quote author=paralambano link=topic=1499.msg27980#msg27980
date=1621339541]
Kerry - ^
As I understand it spiritual man was created very good, meaning
being in the image and likeness of very God (Spirit) seeing 360.
The lie comes along and says you'll see another kind of creation
if you "buy" me and so matter "hides" from Spirit.
para . . . .
[/quote]So what does this mean? ???
Genesis 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof,
then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing
good and evil.
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: paralambano Date: May 18, 2021, 7:35 am
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Kerry - ^
The gods die. God doesn't. The lie mixes spirit with matter,
good and evil, thus the false creation seen.
The false consciousness (error ) gives death since it has left
the Divine which would negate the error (lest they take from the
True Tree and eat) something the pair failed to do. The 360 no
longer by flesh.
para . . . .
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: Kerry Date: May 18, 2021, 9:01 am
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[quote author=paralambano link=topic=1499.msg27983#msg27983
date=1621341348]
Kerry - ^
The gods die. God doesn't. The lie mixes spirit with matter,
good and evil, thus the false creation seen.[/quote]I see man as
having several parts -- four correspond with the four cherubim.
After all, h'adam was fashioned out of the dust; and Adam was
told he was taken from the dust and would return to it. Surely
if the beasts had souls, the man did too; but his soul was made
different when God breathed into him -- and he became a "living
soul."
I don't see the problem with spirit mixing with matter. . . if
matter is subordinate and obedient to spirit. On the contrary,
I see spirit as overshadowing the material body (as well as
soul, mind and volition) and transforming them into the Light.
[quote]The false consciousness (error ) gives death since it has
left the Divine which would negate the error (lest they take
from the True Tree and eat) something the pair failed to do. The
360 no longer by flesh.[/quote]Sorry, but I don't follow the
logic here. I've been thinking in terms some would call
chakras. The top most is the crown of life which appears when
the other chakras have been perfected or at least brought into
obedience to spirit. Adam and Eve did not have crowns of life.
I begin to think maybe they had inner eye chakras but they were
not all in the Light yet. They had a problem with their
throat chakras -- we see that when they try to be "subtle" with
God instead of being frank. They tried to blame others.
The false consciousness could have been made permanent or
immortal if they had eaten of the Tree of Life. So I think. I
see their being driven out of the Garden as an act of Mercy so
their errors wouldn't be permanent. That leaves another
question unanswered in my mind: What if they had eaten of the
Tree of Life first and Tree of the Knowledge of Good and of Evil
later? I have no answer.
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: Mark W Date: May 18, 2021, 11:47 am
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Gotta wonder why the tree of life was forbidden, too?
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: paralambano Date: May 19, 2021, 6:11 am
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Kerry - ^
Adam created from dust is the second creation narrative, the
Adamic one leading to death, so I think we agree so far.
It's the Jehovistic shadow story of the Gen 1 spiritual creation
narrative. It's how we see "dust". I gave multiple, negative
examples of it in another discussion we had. Some scholars
believe that this section could have been written by different
hands at different times, thus the switch from the Elohistic.
For me, it signifies "nothing", matter. From nothing to nothing.
The breath of life isn't seen, is it? The living soul is a
spiritual being, soul meaning the senses. The "good". This error
of believing matter has intelligence or substance on its own is
what's had by the dual tree.
When Spirit is All-in-All actually, matter is its inverse
shadow, claiming to rule the living soul like master to a slave
by belief only. Thus our suffering, our errors and appointment
with its end result, death. All vanity. Matter "apparently"
rules, not Spirit when Spirit's the Eternal All-There-Ever-Is.
One doesn't change bad matter into good matter, there's only
Omnipresent Thought/Spirit or Consciousness as substance. One
changes thought of matter.
Spirit/Thought rules matter by changing the erroneous belief
first by faith, then by understanding that matter has any
substance/power by seeing the Gen 1 spiritual Omnipower creation
in its place. The belief of its "evil" moves to the belief of
its "good", then to its spiritual reality.
This is prayer, no? Infinite Spirit worshipped as All Power, All
Presence, All Wisdom. But we've delegated these things and
subjected ourselves to silly notions like "mother nature" and
"father time"- idolatry believing that there's an actual Power
other than Spirit ruling a very good creation.
If spirit goes into actual matter, that's pantheism isn't it?
There's duality then. One actual bad v one actual good, but my
paradigm says that there's no actual bad, just actual good seen
incorrectly.
Spirit is thought. We don't change bad matter into good matter
since matter can only appear by consciousness and Spirit is
All-Omnipresence, All-Substance since everything comes by
Spirit/Thought/Consciousness. Matter has no intelligence or
governance. That's Spirit's domain since Spirit is All.
Are chakras material things or ideas of material things?
I see what you're saying by the permanence of the false
consciousness. I see it as Truth repulsing error - - the
driving out. But the dual tree has "good" in it as well, just
like 3X3=10 has good numbers in it. So it's not like 3 and 10
are done away with. The error is "redeemed", that is, made right
by 9. There's a fix.
Matter is Spirit perceived in error by false consciousness.
Right where "materialists" (and often yet count myself among
them by ceasing prayer) believe a matter-chair sits with its own
rules of decay is only the actual chair misperceived by the
mist. The chair isn't done away with; it's seen in its proper
substance without decay, blemish, etc. The belief in the
material is redeemed by truly understanding that its tangible
substance is spirit as its real form.
So, yes!, that's exactly how I see it, Mercy. I'd add that a
remedy was given Eve by the protoevangelium. The dual tree
wasn't just the knowledge of evil but of good, the latter which
could be expedient in a finite way.
If the pair had eaten from the Tree of Life first before eating
from the dual tree? If he had eaten from both?
The Tree of Life represents Truth for me since I believe eternal
life is its truthful product. I believe that if Adam had eaten
from it first, he'd not have eaten from the dual tree since I
believe the Tree of Life represents the infinite unfolding of
Divine Consciousness for him. Not "good", not evil, but very
good. He'd be God's seeing and God's doing, Gen 1 spiritual man.
That would come by another.
Adam is a symbol of error for me, the belief in an actual
existence apart from All-Spirit by another imagined substance,
matter and its governance. The shadow-man of spiritual man
believed real. Us before redemption.
para . . . .
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Re: The Eyes of God
By: Kerry Date: May 19, 2021, 12:24 pm
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[quote author=bbyrd009 link=topic=1499.msg27986#msg27986
date=1621356461]
Gotta wonder why the tree of life was forbidden, too?
[/quote]According to Revelation, only those who keep God's
commandments are allowed to eat of it. The law breakers are
kept of the Holy City where the tree of life is.
Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that
they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in
through the gates into the city.
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