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       An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:25 pm
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       Manhattan, New York City
       October 2019
       The wind was blustery and howled faintly when Mack suddenly
       appeared within the trees and shrubs near the Hallett Nature
       Sanctuary in Central Park in Manhattan.  He had vectored in
       unseen, well-screened by the rocks and bushes of the sanctuary.
       Mentally extending his awareness outward, he didn’t sense the
       faint gleaming of any faint telepathic touch upon his mind which
       indicated a telepathic interest in him.  Moments before, he had
       been standing in the doorway in an alley in downtown Seattle,
       out of the rain.
       Mack waited for a moment, partially hidden in the foliage,
       amidst the falling leaves driven by the wind, his mind reaching
       further out, psionically, to about a quarter mile.  He sensed no
       immediate danger.  Upon exiting his hidden area he quickly
       mingling in with many people who, despite the wind, were walking
       on the many sidewalks that could be found in the park.  After
       about an hour of walking in the park, pausing to look at the
       birds and squirrels, he came to conclude that he hadn’t
       attracted the telepathic interest of anyone, something he’d
       expected.
       He figured that he had risked mental detection coming into the
       area.  After all, he appeared within the radius of fourteen
       blocks of Trump Tower, where the Secret Service had a number of
       telepaths, called cowls, a hidden number of special agents who
       protected the President. One of them could have been in the
       park, or near enough to detect him. But apparently there wasn’t
       a picket posted within the park.
       New York City was a bad place for a cowl to keep watch.  Keeping
       track of the thousands of brain pulses of the people around
       Trump Tower was something that was beyond the ability of most
       telepaths, and there would be few of those.  The cowls were few
       compared to the normal people that surrounded them. The
       arithmetic of this comforted Mack as he walked on. The surface
       thoughts of many of the people around him were normal and many
       were glad of their walk through the park despite the wind.
       Those exceptional persons whose minds Mack couldn’t mentally
       listen into, the blanks, behaved seemingly normal.  Mack
       remained guarded.  Anyone of those people could be an aprator, a
       non-telepath, a mentalist of another type as well.  Some of
       these people were pickets and could be hunting him.  Mack
       exercised his usual street craft, checking for surveillance in
       the normal human methods.
       At the end of an hour, Mack decided that he was in the clear,
       and could proceed to do what he had originally planned, to go to
       a fine Manhattan restaurant over near Lexington Avenue.  The
       police and cell phone traffic, monitored by his mind, in his
       subsidiary consciousnesses, his AIs, didn’t disclose anything
       unusual. Most of the government telepaths, the cowls, and the
       anti-psi aprators who could echo sound for him and cast psi
       suppression fields, were, undoubtedly active at and around Trump
       Tower.  The only telepathic noise was the usual area psi
       suppression field, a very strong one around Trump Tower, but,
       other than that, there was complete telepathic silence.  Most
       likely the cowls were listening for any telepathy adjacent to
       their security area.  It’s possible that some of them, if they
       were outside of the psi suppression field, may have heard his
       teleportation into Central Park, but would have lost track of
       him in the thousands of other minds milling around in the park
       and in the buildings that lined the streets of that park.  Those
       cowls and aprators would not be hunting him since they’d be
       picketed on a Presidential guard detail.  It would be doubtful
       that there were any hunter-killer teams around Trump Tower.
       Those were usually present around the governmental buildings in
       Washington D.C.  After Mack practiced what was considered the
       textbook monitoring of his environment for surveillance both
       human and psionic, he gradually, by a circuitous route, began to
       walk towards Fifth Avenue and Sixty-Second Street.
       As he walked on, he reflected that before his arrival to New
       York, he recalled standing in an alley doorway of an old
       building near Pike’s Market in Seattle, Washington.  Things were
       very different what was going on Seattle compared to New York.
       In Seattle, it was about to rain and Mack had spent the day
       there going through the book stores and several coffee shops
       that he frequented.  He had spent a good part of the day playing
       Go, a challenging Oriental game, with one of the talented
       players who lived there, and who frequented the same coffee
       shops as Mack.  Rather than having corn and clam chowder or some
       other dinner at or near the Market, as was his usual custom on a
       rainy day, he planned instead to dine in New York City.  Four
       days previously, he telephoned Restaurante Courbet making a
       dinner reservation hoping there had been a cancellation, for
       they were frequently booked up.  To his great pleasure, he had
       learned that they had had a single table available and Mack
       booked it.
       He didn’t regret his decision.  Now he was in Manhattan and was
       happy to be out of the nearly continuous rain and drizzle that
       he’d experienced in the Pacific Northwest.  He felt comfortable
       in the dry, cool early evening that could be experienced in
       Manhattan, in the midst of its many skyscrapers.  It would get
       colder as the shadows of the evening came on, but it wouldn’t
       compare to the penetrating cold and damp of Seattle.  In that,
       Mack was well pleased.
       Walking down East Sixty Second Street, going towards the East
       River, Mack mentally reached out and sensed again the psi
       suppression field that was around Trump Tower.  There were no
       changes in activity around that suppression field.  Would Trump
       be going anywhere this evening?  Mack didn’t think so.  As
       President, Trump, nowadays very much aware of public skepticism
       and hostility towards him, usually didn’t stir out of his tower
       when in New York City.  The President wouldn’t want to put up
       with it.  Trump would most likely dine at home.
       
       As he walked on Sixty-Second Street, Mack paused and did some
       window shopping.  He was sure that he wasn’t being tailed, but
       he sensed something unexpected.  He sensed a smaller
       psi-suppression field around East Fifty-Eighth Street and
       Lexington Avenue, the area where Restaurante Courbet was
       located.  The suppression field, being smaller, was more of a
       tactical or mobile kind of field.  He wondered if he should go
       on or cancel his dinner reservation.  He had to consider his
       next move.  Was it possible that the President was dining out
       this evening?
       Trump, a late evening diner, generally didn’t dine out this
       early in the evening.  It was only around 5 pm and many in the
       city, especially the city’s most prominent citizens and
       officials, preferred dining out much later, taking in even later
       in the evening the many social events, some of them highly
       exclusive.  Mack paused and wondered.  He could vector out to
       another location.  He could eat at a fine restaurant in Boston,
       or maybe up in Maine.  He mused as looked at the women’s
       fashions on display in the window.  Should he cancel his
       reservation and vector out?  To be prudent, it would be
       something that he should do.  Mack sighed and decided to
       continue on.  Perhaps the security was for someone else and may
       not pose a problem.  Mack continued walking until he came to
       Lexington Avenue and turned South.
       It felt unusual walking towards a psi-suppression field.  If the
       suppression field that was put in place for an American
       President and Vice President, Mack’s people, the Star People,
       had standing instructions to avoid, if possible, those fields.
       Most psionics avoided them anyway because many didn’t like the
       loss of their mental powers while under those fields.  Some
       psionics, like Mack, didn’t mind entering psi suppression.  They
       were prepared for anything that came their way.  Also, some of
       the smaller psi suppression fields were meant for lesser
       government officials since these officials didn’t have the
       elaborate anti-psi hunter/killer teams that sometimes
       accompanied Presidential and Vice Presidential protection.
       The Star People frown on their people entering the lesser
       psi-suppression fields but that didn’t necessarily mean they
       were forbidden to do so.  They simply didn’t advise it.  As he
       walked closer to Sixty-Second Street, Mack confirmed that the
       suppression field was small, especially for a tactical field,
       much smaller than the static one around Trump Tower.  The size
       of the field was important.  It usually indicated a lesser
       government official.  If the suppression field was protecting
       the Vice President, Mack would be needing to avoid the
       restaurant.  If it involved a cabinet official, it was still
       possible he might be able to dine at the restaurant.  What he
       would need to do is to observe the outside security detail
       guarding the official.  Mack knew by sight a number of the cowls
       and aprators.  If he recognized, by its cowls and aprators, that
       the security detail was guarding a lesser government official,
       Mack reasoned, he would be able to enter the restaurant.
       He walked on and felt a chill from the wind blowing in from the
       East River.  When he reached East Fifty Eighth Street, he looked
       to his left on the street and observed the aggregate of suited,
       watchful security men and women, standing with some city police
       officers near the old brownstone where the restaurant was
       located.  As Mack stood at the traffic light, he caught a
       glimpse of a bald-headed man outside in the wind, a man that
       Mack recognized.  It was Harold Wilkinson, an aprator who was
       well-known by the Star People for projecting strong anti-psi
       suppression fields.  Mack knew that he served with the
       Department of State under Michael Pompeo.  That meant that the
       security detail was not Secret Service but the DSS, the
       Diplomatic Security Service, a security team which lacked the
       anti-psi hunter/killer teams.  Mack smiled faintly at that
       thought and decided to keep his dinner reservation and continued
       walking towards the restaurant.
       As he walked up to the stoop to the restaurant, he was pleased
       that Harold Wilkinson had not seen him, but was looking in the
       opposite direction while talking to several local uniformed
       policemen.  At that point, Mack was challenged by the security
       team.  It was the usual questions:  Did you have a reservation
       for eating here?  Are you carrying any weapons?  After he had
       stopped and answered their questions, he was permitted to go up
       the steps and enter into the restaurant.
       Mack reflected on Harold Wilkinson.  The man seemed harassed and
       most likely was having trouble with one of his bosses.  This sad
       fact was far too common at the present time, especially in the
       upper echelons of government.  This problem was afflicting many
       talented government professionals, because of the mediocrity of
       the Trump Administration.  They had to deal with a lot of
       stupidity from a host of unqualified political appointees.
       Inside, he was challenged again by the special agents.  At the
       Hostess’ station, they checked his ID, confirmed his dinner
       reservation, and scanned him with a hand-held metal detector.
       After that Mack went and took a seat in the waiting area. He
       chose his seat with care.  It was closest to the entrance to the
       main dining area and furthest away from the special agents of
       the DSS.  There he waited.
       A gray-haired matronly woman and her husband, sitting next to
       him, were looking sharply at him.  Perhaps they disapproved of
       his dark navy blue Pea Jacket and light gray turtleneck sweater
       which he wore underneath his coat.  The dress code for the
       restaurant made it mandatory for men to be attired in a suit, or
       a sport coat and necktie for dining.  Perhaps the woman didn’t
       realize that turtlenecks were permitted in lieu of a necktie.
       Despite their annoyance, Mack asked them whom the special agents
       were guarding.  Perhaps he was to learn that Secretary Pompeo
       was entertaining a foreign diplomat in one of the dining rooms
       upstairs.  He was disappointed to learn that they didn’t know.
       The woman, in particular, was annoyed at the agents’ presence.
       She resented having to show them her identification.  She had
       called them jackasses.
       As he waiting, he could hear, faintly another motorcade arrive
       in front of the building.  Shortly after that, another group of
       special agents, both men and women burst into the waiting room.
       These men Mack immediately recognized as part of the
       Presidential Secret Service detail.  This was bad because it
       meant that Mack now risked having an unauthorized meeting with
       Trump.  He leaned back in his chair trying to shield his
       presence by hiding behind the elderly couple he was sitting next
       to.  He glanced briefly as President Trump and his wife,
       Melania, and Rudy Giuliani, strode into the waiting room and
       headed for the stairs that led up to the exclusive second floor
       dining rooms.  President Trump and his wife had the usual aloof
       arrogance, not condescending to look either right or left at the
       assembled people.  Rudy Giuliani was very different.  He looked
       around the waiting room with curious eyes.  He had a lot of
       friends in Manhattan and was known for his open friendliness.  A
       former New York City politician, Rudy Giuliani could expect to
       see people he would know at a deluxe restaurant such as this.
       Mack sensed Giuliani’s eyes lit upon him briefly for a moment as
       he followed Trump and Melania for the stairs.  There seemed to
       be no look of recognition on Giuliani’s face as their eyes met.
       Perhaps Mack hadn’t been seen.
       It would be doubtful that his presence would not escape the
       notice of the Secret Service personnel. One of them already had
       a laptop out and was entering names found on the restaurant’s
       reservations list.  Undoubtedly, this restaurant visit was
       unplanned.  Most likely, Trump abruptly decided upon it and now
       the Secret Service agents were scrambling to check everyone in
       the day’s current reservation list with their own records to see
       if anyone listed as a security risk to the President.  It was a
       bad way to do security, and for a government official such as
       Trump, to disable the effectiveness of his very own security
       team by a lack of proper planning.
       Pierre, a quiet, efficient maitre d’, that Mack had known for
       years, came up to him.  “We have your table ready for you,
       Mack.”
       Mack answered his greeting and followed him to a small table
       along the wall.  Mack sat down at Pierre’s bidding and a hostess
       brought him a glass of water and a menu.
       Mack began to look through the menu and faced the usual,
       delightful dilemma of what to have.  He was originally thinking
       about having a lobster salad to be followed by a main dish such
       as sweetbreads with Madeira, topped off with thinly sliced
       shallots, and with a brown sauce over onions and carrots.  At
       least that’s what he originally thought about eating, but, yet
       again, other menu items now also looking inviting.  He hadn’t
       had for a while the French-Canadian pork and spice pie known as
       Tourtiere, which he favored.  Then there was also Blanquette de
       Veau, which is veal in a wine and cream sauce, served with
       mushrooms, onions, garlic and carrots.  There were also several
       new items on the menu.
       Mack sensed someone coming up to him.  It was a Secret Service
       man with the identification badge around his neck.  “Are you Mr.
       Adrian Stemple?”
       “Yes.”
       “I’m Adam Tindall of the Secret Service.”  The two men shook
       hands.  Tindall continued, “The President invites you to dine
       with him and his dinner party.”
       That surprised Mack given how he left the President very angry
       with him at their last meeting at Mar a Lago.  This was out of
       character in respect to this President.  What would have made
       the President change his mind?  It would be best to avoid any
       further trouble.  “I’m sorry, Mr. Tindall.  Given my schedule,
       please tell the President that I must respectfully decline the
       honor.”
       Tindall’s face showed his disappointment.  “Very well, Mr.
       Stemple; have a good evening.”
       “Thank you.”
       Mack watched the man’s back as he left the dining room.  Then
       Mack began to look at the menu again, only to be interrupted by
       his friend, Pierre, the maître d’.  “Was that the Secret Service
       questioning you?”  Pierre knew that Mack wouldn’t be annoyed by
       the question.  Both men went back a long time.
       “It certainly was, Pierre.  The President was asking me to dine
       with him.  I declined.”
       Pierre’s face beamed.  “That invitation sounds like a very great
       honor,” he said.
       “It may be, Pierre, but I think that, nowadays, dinners with
       Trump are not going to be pleasant affairs.  He’s a very
       impatient, contrary man in all his ways.”
       Pierre frowned.  “That’s too bad, Mack.”
       Another steward came up to him, a perky blond with large
       expressive eyes.  “Have you decided yet on your menu, sir?” She
       asked.
       “I’m still looking, ma’am.  I think it will be several minutes
       longer.”  Pierre then apologized for the interruption and they
       both left his table.
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       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:28 pm
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       Mack looked again at the menu.  He contemplated the lobster
       salad.  That was a favorite of his.  He considered that he could
       have fish instead of veal or sweetbreads.  He could have
       Virginia crab cakes over wild rice or corn-meal fried oysters
       with the restaurant’s subtle mustard sauce.  As one of the
       specials, he could also have broiled, marinated scallops in
       vermouth.  That sounded good as well.
       Another Secret Service man came to his table.  The
       identification badge said he was Charles Price.  “I’m sorry to
       interrupt you, Mr. Stemple.  The President is again requesting
       your presence at his dinner party.  He would appreciate it if
       you could accept his invitation.  He says that you’ll be
       interested to know that in 2020 he’ll be charging the high
       donors to his upcoming Presidential campaign 60,000 dollars each
       for the privilege of dining at his table.”
       Mack sighed.  “I’m sorry Mr. Price.  As I’ve already told Mr.
       Tindall, given my schedule, I must respectfully decline the
       honor.  Please give the President my regards.”
       The Secret Service man’s face, likewise, showed disappointment
       at this answer, and apologizing for the interruption, he turned
       and left the dining room.
       Mack looked down again at his menu.  As he was looking at the
       menu, he heard the sound of footsteps coming to his table.  Not
       again, he thought.  Looking up, he saw that it was one of the
       Secret Service supervisors that he knew by sight, Michael
       Collins.  He knew Collins, having met him, briefly, at Mar a
       Lago.  Secretly, Collins was an aprator, one of Trump’s best
       anti-psi security men. It was probably galling to him that he
       had to ask a psionic to attend an unauthorized meeting with the
       President, a man he was to protect.  It was the rule that
       psionics had to get special permission to meet with the
       President of the United States.
       “I’m sorry to disturb you, Mr. Stemple,” Collins began.
       “No problem, Mr. Collins.  As I’ve told Mr. Price and Mr.
       Tindall, given my schedule, I must respectfully decline the
       honor of the President’s dinner invitation.”
       “Mr. Giuliani is the one originally requesting your presence.
       He wants to talk about what he calls ‘the old days’ and your
       activities in helping to take down part of the Mafia.  The
       President assures you that the dinner will not last inordinately
       long.”
       It was easy to see from Collins’ face that he didn’t want to
       make this request, but he was in a difficult spot.  Both knew
       that Mack, a psionic known by the American anti-psi services
       wasn’t preauthorized to be in the presence of the President.  It
       broke down all the security protocols between the AAP, the
       American Anti-Psi Program and the Star People, which required
       prior clearance to any meeting with the President.  It would get
       him in trouble as well as Collins.  But it looked like it
       couldn’t be avoided if the President insisted upon it.
       “I’m curious, Mr. Collins.”  Mack asked.  “Why hasn’t Trump
       decided to dine-in at Trump Tower tonight?  I understand that he
       has on his staff at Trump Tower, or on call, several very decent
       gourmet chefs.”
       “He decided, after first declining it several weeks ago, to dine
       with the Vice President and his wife this evening.  He’s also
       brought the First Lady and Mr. Giuliani.  They’re dining with
       Vice President and his wife.”
       Mack frowned at that.  “I thought that Secretary of State Pompeo
       was here and that Harold Wilkinson and the security people I
       originally met outside were with the Diplomatic Security
       Service.”
       “You’re wrong, Mack.  The security people that you greeted
       outside are Secret Service, detailed to guard the Vice President
       and his wife.”
       That surprised Mack though he was careful not to show it.  He
       had blundered by improperly identifying the security team
       screening Restaurante Courbet.  Mack frowned and told Collins,
       “I’m sorry to hear that.  I saw Harold Wilkinson outside.  I
       have long understood that he’s detailed to the Diplomatic
       Security Service.”
       “He was reassigned to the Secret Service about a month ago.”
       That was annoying.  It served Mack right for making an
       assumption about somebody he knew, and this made him miss the
       fact that he misidentified the security detail guarding a
       government official.  The government sometimes changed the
       service assignments of their precious anti-psi security agents.
       “Why would the President want to see me anyway, Mr. Collins?”
       asked Mack.  “I caused him a lot of aggravation last year at Mar
       a Lago.”
       “I suppose he’s happy about how you eliminated the potential
       scandal involving Mr. Doubek.  The blowback from that scandal
       proved minimal.  I think that he still may be interested in
       hiring you.”
       Mack was skeptical.  “It’s difficult to imagine that.”
       The Secret Service man, Mr. Tindall returned with another man.
       Mr. Tindall, with a harassed look on his face, introduced the
       man as Arthur Grayson, a special aide to the President.
       Grayson pleaded with him, “We request that you accept the honor
       and have dinner with Trump.  The President has said to me that
       he offers to pay for your dinner and that there’s no limit to
       what you can order off the menu and at the bar.”  Grayson’s
       appeal was almost plaintive.  “If we do not bring you upstairs,
       we may never stop hearing about it for a long time.”
       Mack thought about it for a moment and then asked, “No limit on
       the bar, eh?”
       “That’s right,” said Grayson.
       “So if I took home an unopened bottle of whisky with me, he
       wouldn’t object?”
       “That’s right, Mr. Stemple.  Trump likes to show off his
       wealth.”
       Mack turned in his chair and waved to Pierre, the maître d’ who
       was silently standing in the back of the dining room and who had
       been watching them.  When Pierre came up to the table, Mack
       asked, “The President wants me to dine with him.  If I chose to
       dine with the President, will you be able to quickly fill this
       reserved table?  I don’t want to be charged for it.”
       “Sacre bleu!  Yes, Mack,” Pierre cheerfully exclaimed.  “We have
       a walk-in couple waiting for a cancellation that could
       immediately fill this table.  We’ll also cancel your reservation
       and notate that you went into the Presidential dinner party.”
       “I hope that won’t be held against me.”
       “It won’t Mack.”
       “I wanted to make sure.”  Mack smiled inwardly.  He had to say
       the following despite the presence of the Secret Service.
       “Please be sure to advise the Shift Manager to charge and
       receive payment from the President before the President leaves
       the restaurant.  He has an unfortunate habit of not paying his
       bills.”
       “That’s okay, Mack.  People in Manhattan are fully aware of
       Donald Trump and his reputation.”
       Mack thanked Pierre and got up from the table.  Looking at Mr.
       Grayson and the Secret Service men he solemnly intoned, “Take me
       to your leader.”  He was faintly amused that Mr. Grayson’s face
       showed immediate relief.
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       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:36 pm
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       Mack followed the Secret Service agents out of the main dining
       room into the corridor.  They had Mack empty his pockets,
       putting various items onto a small table in the hallway.  They
       quickly scanned him again with a hand-held metal detector.  The
       non-anti-psi agents were puzzled that he didn’t have a cell
       phone and asked him about it.  When Mack told them that he
       couldn’t afford it, they looked at him with disbelief, as they
       had discovered him within one of New York City’s finest and most
       expensive five-star restaurants.  After giving him his pocket
       litter back, they led him up the steps to the second floor.
       Mack stopped briefly in the corridor and looked at a brass
       memorial plaque posted on the wall outside of the first private
       dining room.  It said: IN MEMORY OF OUR GOOD FRIEND, HUGO
       RUSTERMANN, AN AMERICAN PATRIOT WHOSE COVERT ACTIONS IN THE
       GREAT WAR AS AN AGENT OF THE UNITED STATES MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
       DIVISION, SAVED HUNDREDS OF LIVES AND HELPED TO END THE GREAT
       WAR IN THE ARMISTICE OF NOVEMBER 1918, THIS PLAQUE IS
       AFFECTIONATELY DEDICATED.  M. VUKCIC, N. VUKCIC, E. STAHL S.
       HARWOOD APRIL 4, 1927.  Next to the plaque, in a display case
       set in the wall was an oversized wheeled dining chair which had
       its own plaque set into its front rail or apron.  It said: THIS
       PLAQUE IS AFFECTIONATELY DEDICATED IN MEMORY OF OUR GOOD FRIEND
       AND FELLOW GOURMET N.W. FROM F.C. RESTAURANTE COURBET OCTOBER
       27, 1975.
       “He must have been a big man who occupied that chair,” said
       Collins softly.
       “He was that in many ways, I agree,” replied Mack.
       Collins led Mack down the corridor to the second, larger dining
       room and opened the door for Mack.  As Mack entered the room, he
       was impressed by the room, with its plush carpeting, redwood
       paneled walls and graceful crystal chandeliers.   He saw
       President Trump talking with Vice-President Pence and his
       lawyer, Rudi Giuliani.  They were standing next to a large,
       round mahogany dining table that had six ornate place settings.
       From what Mack could hear, Trump was doing all of the talking,
       with Pence and Giuliani silently listening or nodding in
       agreement.  The President was talking primarily about himself
       about how he could have been a professional golf player if
       things had been different.  Trump was in his element, declaiming
       that everyone knew that he was one of the greatest golf players
       that had ever lived. Looking over towards the other side of the
       room, Mack could see that Melania Trump was in a quieter
       conversation with Karen Pence, the Vice-President’s wife. Mack
       smiled inwardly about the fuss involved getting him here.  None
       of the people seemed to have noticed his entrance.
       Mack looked back and observed that the Secret Service hadn’t
       followed him into the room which was a serious violation of
       security protocol involving psionics.  In order to provide
       proper security for the President against psionics, there was
       always supposed to be security personnel between him and around
       him within the presence of the President.  Frowning at Collins,
       who, knowing what he was thinking, Mack could see him silently
       shake his head.  Collins knew that none of this was right, but
       the President had the final say in setting the protocol of his
       own security.  Mack nodded at him and turned.  At that moment,
       Rudy Guiliani recognized him.
       “Hello, Mr. Stemple,” Rudy Giuliani exclaimed.  “I thought I
       recognized you down in the waiting room.”  He briskly stepped
       forward and shook Mack’s hand.   The President and Vice
       President silently followed behind him.  To the President,
       Giuliani said, “Isn’t this man remarkable?  He helped us to
       bring down the leadership of several Mafia crime families.”
       Mack shook hands with President Trump, who was frowning, most
       likely peeved that he was suddenly no longer the center of
       attention.  Mack was then introduced to Vice-President Michael
       Pence and his wife, Karen, who, with Melania, had silently come
       up to greet him as well .  They shook his hand and they had,
       most likely, that bewildered and perhaps annoyed look of having
       to greet yet another Trump and Giuliani acquaintance.  Lastly,
       Mack shook hands with Melania Trump.  “Topio pozdravljeni,
       Melania,” Mack said to her.  Out of the corner of his eye, he
       could see that Trump’s frown deepened, and the eyes that
       indicated annoyance.  Trump was annoyed by Slovenian speech, and
       of any language and conversation that he couldn’t take part of.
       Melania, seeing that annoyance, didn’t reply.
       Mack then turned his gaze onto the President.  He could see that
       the President was tired and his eyes still had a trace of cold
       anger faintly behind them.  Those eyes were probably always
       angry now.  His screaming rages within the White House for the
       last three years were well-known and much commented upon.  The
       impeachment proceedings in the House of Representatives, which
       was now slowly deposing witnesses, was causing him to rage
       virtually every day.  Thinking of the anxiety of Mr. Grayson, it
       was a grim job, these days, to be an aide to the President of
       the United States.
       Looking at Vice-President Pence, he could see that his eyes were
       not much different.  Though they lacked the anger, Pence had the
       same cold, sharp eyes that he’d always been known for.  In
       Stafford’s Tavern in downtown Seattle, the Vice-President had
       been described by one local wit as a ‘finely tooled old ferret
       face’ which noted the man’s predatory eyes.  The tavern wit
       failed to take into account the Vice-President’s other eyes, the
       submissive dog-like eyes of loyalty that he has also shown to
       the President.  Other tavern wits had noticed those other eyes
       and had stated that Pence had that other look, the groveling
       looking upon Trump as if Trump was ‘the second coming of
       Christ’.  That was an overstatement as well.
       Mack came out of his thoughts.  “Is it true, Mr. President, from
       what your aide had said to me,” Mack asked, “that you’re buying
       my dinner?”
       Trump smiled, amused by the question.  “Yes Mr. Stemple.  I’m
       doing that for you and for everyone here.  I’m celebrating my
       upcoming victory over Congress.”
       Mack frowned at that.  “The impeachment proceedings are just
       getting started, Mr. President, and that doesn’t seem to be
       anything worth celebrating.  You could be impeached for that
       business in Ukraine.”
       Trump grinned.  “The impeachment means nothing to me and its
       proceedings are nonsense, Mr. Stemple,” he declared.  “As soon
       as the House sends its impeachment to the Senate, they’ll
       exonerate me and then I’ll have both those Houses in my pocket,
       able to do what I want.  I’m here celebrating that I’m the
       smartest, wealthiest, most powerful man in America.  Now that’s
       a cause for celebration!” Trump laughed.  “Trump has already
       demonstrated that Trump knows more than the economists,
       constitutional scholars and lawyers, and the military and
       diplomatic experts combined.  People should be grateful that
       Trump has sacrificed so much in time and in his wealth becoming
       President of the United States.”
       “Amen,” said Vice-President Pence.
       “When I first arrived here, Mr. President,” Mack continued, “I
       didn’t see the Presidential Secret Service detail out in front.”
       “That’s because I decided, at the last moment, to come here.”
       President Trump grinned.  “Melania and I were going to have
       steaks at Trump Tower but we remembered Vice-President Pence was
       dining here this evening and that he had invited us several
       weeks ago.”
       “So you took up the invitation at the last moment.”
       “We did.”
       Mack scrutinized the Pences, noting their deadpan faces.
       Doubtlessly, the Pences had planned for a quiet, intimate dinner
       together until the President had surprised them by his last
       moment acceptance of their dinner invitation.  Most likely other
       diners were also surprised as well.  It was hard to book a
       reservation at Restaurante Courbet.  Mack had to ask an obvious
       question, “This dining room probably had been reserved for a
       dinner party several weeks ago.  How could you have gotten the
       reservations and this dining room for the Pences, Mr. Giuliani,
       Mrs. Trump and yourself?”
       “I didn’t.”  Trump laughed.  “The restaurant had to scramble to
       get it.  That’s one of the privileges of great honor and power.
       Others must bend and give way to it.  It doesn’t matter that
       I’ve caused another business dinner party to get booted from
       this building because I came tonight.  That’s the power of great
       men, and such power has to be demonstrated.”
       “I suppose that such a demonstration has improved your
       appetite.”
       “Great men have large appetites.  I’m sure you understand that.”
       Trump led him to a gracious long, narrow hors d’oeuvre table
       along the wall.  “Help yourself, Mr. Stemple.”
       Mack thanked the President and looked at the appetizer table and
       marveled that it had crabmeat canapes, stuffed anchovy
       mushrooms, a selection of sliced fruit and cheeses, and
       delicately seasoned foie gras to put onto small buttered, toast
       squares.  There was also a selection of wines already poured
       into fluted wine glasses.  He took up a small plate and fork and
       placed several crabmeat canapes, stuffed anchovy mushrooms and
       several slices of pineapple and various cheeses.  He picked up a
       small glass of Pinot Grigio.  He stood and watched as Trump
       continued boasting about his achievements to the assembled
       dinner party, who, while listening, eventually came over to the
       table and selected their own hors d’oeuvres.
       Trump’s boasting was greeted with silent nods or with the
       occasional ‘yes’ from Giuliani and ‘amen’ from Pence.
       Eventually, Trump paused in his boasting and, took up a plate
       and helped himself with the appetizers.  His listeners watched
       in silence as he, eagerly, piled the hors d’oeuvres onto his
       plate and selected a fluted glass of champagne.  Trump was
       publically known to be a teetotaler because of the death of his
       older brother, Fred Junior, who died an alcoholic.  But as with
       many things, he wasn’t entirely what he declared himself to be.
       He wasn’t entirely teetotal.  He drank alcohol occasionally, and
       as far as Mack knew, in temperate amounts.
       Mack watched as the President gladly began eating the hors
       d’oeuvres.  The more that he ate of them, the more quickly he
       would be eating, an indication of why he was obese.  His
       watchers were glad for the respite.  At least for the moment,
       Trump was no longer boasting about himself.  But it was not to
       last.  As soon as Trump’s plate was empty and his glass of
       champagne was downed, he resumed his boasting, which continued
       about his prowess in golf, and how he could have been a
       professional player.
       What were Trump’s issues with cognition nowadays?  Mack
       wondered.  The President was getting older and the stress was
       wearing heavily upon him.  By common accounts, the President’s
       thinking was getting more muddled, his words more frequently
       mispronounced or slurred.  After putting the President under a
       mind-lock back in 2016, on behalf of the American anti-psi
       services to protect their secrets, Mack’s mind lock had an
       important effect.  It enabled the President, only within Mack’s
       presence, to be more lucid, to speak and think has he used to be
       back in the early 1980s.  Now that Mack was present, Trump’s
       listeners will soon notice the eventual change in his lucidity.
       Mack half-listened to that conversation, or rather, Trump’s
       rarely interrupted proclamation of his skills.  When Mack had
       finished his appetizers and wine, he set the plate and glass
       down onto the table where it was quickly taken up by one of the
       few attending stewards.  As he went over to the bar, he sensed
       Trump’s boasting seem to fall off.  Perhaps the President
       noticed that Mack had walked away from the President’s
       declamation of supremacy.  He nodded to the bartender and looked
       at the bottles locked up in the mahogany cabinet behind the
       restaurant’s fine long mahogany bar.
       Looking back at the others in the Presidential party, he
       observed that Trump had followed him.  He asked the President,
       “Your aide, Arthur Grayson, told me that you told him that I
       could order any bottle from the bar, and that I could take the
       unopened bottle home with me.”
       When Trump confirmed that Mack heard the offer correctly, Mack
       thanked him, and turning to the bartender, requested a bottle of
       Glenfiddich 30-year-old single malt Scotch whisky.  Mack
       instructed the bartender that he wanted it to remain unopened
       and kept in its original packing display cylinder.  He
       instructed that he wanted the cylinder to be wrapped in paper,
       and put into one of the restaurant’s fine to-go canvas satchels
       reserved for the finest bottles of alcohol for carry-out.  He
       wouldn’t drink any of it here.
       Looking at Trump and sensing the President’s amusement at Mack’s
       selection of whisky and Mack’s request that it be packed away to
       be carried out, Mack smiled inwardly.  Did the President know
       how much this whisky cost? Perhaps it didn’t matter.  Trump was
       making the display of his wealth and power.  Perhaps this was
       one of the costs of that vanity.  As Mack looked into the
       President’s eyes, he saw that Trump continued to look at him
       with amusement.  This didn’t seem right given their last,
       unhappy meeting at Mar a Lago.  Perhaps this meeting had more to
       do with that than with the dinner itself.
       When a steward, unobtrusively, entered the room and nodded at
       Trump, the President invited his guests to sit down at the
       large, round mahogany dinner table that dominated the dining
       room.  Trump sat at the table with his back towards the wall.
       Melania was sitting to his left and Vice President Pence to his
       right.  To the left of Melania was Rudy Giuliani and, on the
       opposite side of the table, to the right of the Vice-President,
       was Pence’s wife, Karen.  Mack, who wasn’t accompanied by
       anyone, sat directly opposite of the President, between Karen
       Pence and Rudy Giuliani.  Given the seating arrangement, Mack
       was sitting farthest from the President, indicating that his
       status was the lowest of all.
       The senior restaurant steward gave all the diners a menu and
       another steward started to fill the water glasses.  President
       Trump ordered a seltzer and a diet coke.  The Vice President
       ordered a near beer and the women ordered a bottle of wine.
       Giuliani, who was well-known to favor scotch and cigars, ordered
       a tall glass of scotch.  Mack also ordered a tall glass of
       scotch over ice and a diet coke.
       Mack looked at the menu.  It was the same as what he had looked
       at downstairs in the main dining room of the restaurant.  Given
       that Sundays through Tuesdays, the restaurant, offered its
       so-called ‘executive’ menu, which consisted of a plainer fair
       than what was offered on Wednesdays through Saturdays.  Because
       of this, Mack wouldn’t be able to order a costly, multi-course
       gourmet meal from the restaurant’s more exclusive ‘premium’ menu
       and enjoy a wonderful evening with the palate, as well as
       extensively soak the President’s wallet. It was a pity, though.
       Restaurante Courbet was renowned for its fine haut cuisine and
       Mack remembered the selections that could be had for the making
       of an exquisite multi-course dinner.  He looked up at Trump
       intently studying his menu.  Mack smiled inwardly.  He was,
       already, soaking the man for a nine-hundred dollar bottle of
       whisky.  He looked at the others in the dinner party.  He
       doubted that any of them would be that extravagant.
       The sommelier came to the table.  Apparently, he had already
       spoken with the Presidential party.  He presented a wine bottle
       to Melania Trump and then to Karen Pence, displaying the bottle
       of wine they had ordered.  Mack could see that it was Chateau
       Leoville Barton St.-Julien, an excellent, expensive wine.  The
       sommelier, standing at Melania Trump’s side, peeled back the
       foil and popped the cork.  He handed Melania the cork for her to
       sniff, to see that the wine was acceptable.  She nodded yes.
       The sommelier looked at Karen Pence who nodded as well,
       accepting Melania’s decision.  The sommelier, after pouring the
       wine into their glasses, left the bottle on the table and
       quietly departed.
       As the sommelier departed, the bar steward came and distributed
       the drinks around the table.  Mack was pleased to see that the
       tall glass of scotch he received only had a small amount of ice.
       Only a small splash of water was needed to enhance its taste.
       Vice President Pence, who alone ordered beer, received a bottle
       of O’Douls a non-alcoholic beer.  It was known that Pence liked
       O’Douls with pizza.  Giuliani ordered a tall glass of scotch
       without ice.  Drinking it neat, Rudy Giuliani was risking
       getting drunk.  But what worldly man wouldn’t seek to get drunk
       if given the chance to drink premium whisky?  Both Mack and Rudy
       were having Ballantine’s 21-year old blended scotch, a brand
       that was well-known for its smoky mellow, rich notes of oak wood
       and nuts, with after notes of oranges, tangerines, cinnamon and
       cloves.  Except for the women who ordered a fine wine to go with
       their meal, the men had ordered drinks that would ruin the
       palate of any passionate gourmet.
       After a short time, when the Presidential party had looked at
       the menus, when the steward came to the table, as Mack
       anticipated, everyone requested the lobster bisque soup, a
       famous Restaurante Courbet prime specialty.  For the salads, the
       President ordered a wedge salad with Roquefort dressing, one of
       the few vegetables that he eats.  The ladies each ordered a sour
       cream and vinegar cucumber salad without the greens.  Vice
       President Pence, Rudy Giuliani, and Mack, ordered the usual
       dinner salad with either Italian or vinegar and oil dressing on
       the side.   Mack had decided not to order the cherished lobster
       salad.  He was going to have the lobster bisque soup.
       For the main course, Melania Trump and Karen Pence each ordered
       the crab-stuffed avocado salad with raspberry vinaigrette with a
       small side dish of fried calamari with garlic lemon sauce.
       President Trump ordered a New York strip steak well-done with
       garlic mashed potatoes and, to his reluctance, a vegetable
       medley given that he didn’t like most vegetables.  He also let
       the steward know that he wanted some ketchup so that he could
       put it on his steak.  The steward, always in good form in
       keeping with a five-star restaurant, managed to keep from
       flinching at such a strange request, and duly punched it into
       his menu tablet.  Vice President Pence ordered a steak as well,
       a filet mignon, but he requested it medium rare with garlic
       mashed potatoes with asparagus as his vegetable.  Rudy Giuliani
       ordered the corn-meal fried oysters with mustard sauce, beans
       and rice, and a side dish of a sweet dill pickled cucumber onion
       salad.  Mack, knowing he’d be drinking the Ballantine 21-year
       old blended scotch whisky throughout the dinner, ordered a large
       dish of smoked deboned duck with caramelized apricots, with a
       side dish of brown rice and shallots over asparagus.
       Looking at the President, he could see Trump watching him in
       amusement.  “I can tell you’ve eaten here before,” the President
       said.
       “Yes, indeed.” Mack replied.  “As we both have when we’ve had
       lunch together here in the 1980s.  I’ve struggled much in my
       poverty, to get from the fast food to the slow food.”
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       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:39 pm
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       “As if you are really poor.” chortled Giuliani.  “Though you’re
       supposedly poor, you’ve lived in the black economy like many
       operators for years, and you’re really an operator!  Your wealth
       may not be large but, I’m sure, it’s very well hidden away.”
       Giuliani’s smile had a lot of warmth in it.  The former district
       attorney continued, “I remember you working with us in the 1990s
       against the Mafia.  I heard that the FBI was paying you a
       pittance on a contract basis.  I later hear from the ADIC of New
       York City the common, wild stories about you.  Supposedly, years
       before, you had infiltrated drug houses on the West Coast
       looting them of their cash and guns.  With your intelligence and
       foreign connections, I suppose you’ve quietly circulated and
       exchanged those stacks of old bills for new ones.”
       “I can’t be held responsible for those old stories,” said Mack
       apologetically.  “Funds and firearms seized by me always go to
       the FBI.”
       Trump shook his head in disbelief.  “You’ve always represented
       yourself as poor in all of our prior meetings, and yet you’re
       here in a five-star restaurant where all the menu items don’t
       even have the prices listed,” Trump frowned.  “If one has to ask
       for the prices in this kind of restaurant, one shouldn’t even be
       here.”
       Mack replied unctuously, “Mr. President, though my boodle may
       not as big as yours, I’ve scrounged and saved the stash to be
       here.”  And he smiled as he said it.
       Giuliani laughed.  “He won’t tell us, Mr. President, about his
       finances, or even how he gets around.  He may still be hunted by
       some organized crime figures.”
       “Most of them are dead,” replied Mack.
       Trump looked at Mack.  “I can understand why you’d want to keep
       your finances secret.  I do the same though the fake media says
       a lot about it.  I understand that Vladimir Putin had warned the
       Russian Mafia not to hunt you anymore,” the President said.
       “I didn’t know about that.”  Mack responded.  Actually, he knew.
       The Star People, through its emissaries, had given a stark
       choice to Putin, who had many links to Russian organized crime
       figures, to either have them stop hunting Mack Stemple or
       possibly die himself.  Putin did the intelligent thing.  He
       chose to stop the hunt, warning the Russian oligarchs that if
       they didn’t stop the hunt, that he would stop the hunt for them.
       They did so.  At that point the conversation between the
       President and Pence and Giuliani turned to other matters and
       Mack reverted back to silence, occasionally sipping his whisky.
       Mack reflected on how things had changed since last year when he
       had met the President at Mar a Lago.  Since then, Trump had
       managed to consolidate his control over the White House staff
       and the Department of Justice.  Given the general indifference
       that the Trump Administration had for American security, the
       Archon Directorate had further determined that more mind locks
       were needed to ensure that psionic and anti-psi security
       remained hidden within the United States.  A total of
       thirty-eight more mind locks were put into place in the White
       House, Department of Justice, Homeland Security, and several
       other departments.  Mack didn’t have anything to do with these.
       They were put into place by his friend, Warwick Cota, under the
       protocol set by the Archon Directorate.  It was strange, Mack
       reflected, on how American anti-psi security had become
       dependent upon the goodwill of the Star People.  But it had not
       been entirely goodwill.  The Star People, as well as the Archon
       Directorate had seen the need of both psionics and anti-psionics
       remaining clandestine.  It was a common concern that some among
       many who accidently knew about the existence of psionics would
       want a general knowledge of it being made available to the
       public.  It would lead to massive social changes.
       The President brought Mack up out of his thoughts.  “Have you
       considered what greatness is, Mack?” Trump asked, his eyes
       reflecting a merry pride.
       “I have, and we’ve had this conversation before, Mr. President.”
       “Well tell me, Mr. Stemple.”
       “Greatness is a generalized term of approval of something or
       someone.  It can refer to magnitude, degree or effectiveness in
       respect to something.  It can refer to superiority of character
       and quality, a pre-eminence among certain persons.”
       “What kind of man do you specifically think is the great man?”
       Mack’s answer was immediate.  “I think that the great man is the
       virtuous man.”
       Trump made a face and shook his head, “That’s the answer you’ve
       given me before.  You can only give me idiotic religious and
       moralistic answers.”
       Mack smiled faintly, “Indeed.  You didn’t like the answers I
       gave in our prior conversations.”  It was evident, at this point
       that the President’s full mental lucidity had returned.
       Trump frowned at that.  “The answer you’re giving me is
       childish,” the President said.  “What men really want is what
       men know, that the great man is the man of power, not bound by
       religion or morality.”
       Mack glanced at Michael Pence sitting next to the President.
       The Vice President’s eyes had flashed his surprise at Trump’s
       words.   Pence looked at Mack, his eyes giving him a searching
       glance.  Pence had now become very interested in the President’s
       sudden lucidity.  Mack was aware that Pence was already
       well-aware of the President’s cold indifference to any
       understanding of right and wrong.
       The conversation was interrupted.  The soup had arrived.
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       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:46 pm
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       The soup had been brought quickly, thought Mack.  The restaurant
       staff didn’t want to keep the Presidential party waiting.  Trump
       and his guests watched silently as the stewards quickly set
       before each of them a small plate with a variety of crackers,
       and the dark ceramic bowls of the hot, lobster bisque soup.  The
       light pink chunks of lobster in the reddish, creamy soup, with
       the light hint of garlic pleased Mack.  As the stewards
       departed, everyone began to eat.
       Everyone ate silently except for the President who noisily
       slurped his soup with relish, quite unconscious of the fact that
       he was making a spectacle of himself.  Mack didn’t mind the
       President in this.  It had been his experience that if he was
       sitting far enough away from boorish diners, he sometimes found
       them entertaining.  Unlike his fellow diners who ate their
       crackers apart from their soup, Mack quietly broke up some of
       his crackers, putting them into his bowl before eating,
       something that he liked doing with rich, creamy soups.  Looking
       at his fellow diners and thinking how they contrasted with the
       working people found in downtown Seattle, Mack wondered if he
       should have remained there despite the fog and the rain, having
       his favorite corn and clam chowder at Pike’s Market.
       At a certain point, Trump looked up from his soup.  The
       President looked with satisfaction at all of guests until his
       eyes eventually settling on Mack.  He frowned and then asked
       Mack, “So you’ve had some contact with the Genovese Family?”
       “I have, Mr. President.”
       “I’ve met Fat Tony Salerno, back in the day.  He was a real
       stand up guy.”
       “I suppose so.” Mack replied, who quietly regarded it as dubious
       that the President had actually met the man. “He really liked
       his cigars.”  Mack smiled as he said this because smoking,
       especially cigar smoking, was something that annoyed Trump.
       “Indeed,” agreed the President ignoring the reference to his
       private peeve towards smoking.  “I’ve heard that he knew the
       real estate development and construction business quite well,
       which was a good thing.  I don’t think I could have built Trump
       Tower without his influence.  It’s the largest concrete building
       in the world.”
       “Yes, Mr. President; Fat Tony was into concrete,” agreed Mack as
       he returned to his soup.
       “At one time Fat Tony had a hidden and controlling interest in S
       & A Concrete and Transit-Mix Corporation, which built Trump
       Tower, as well as several other important buildings in
       Manhattan.” Giuliani added.  He would know these things given
       that Salerno was a target for prosecution by the city and state
       of New York.
       “He knew how to keep labor peace,” continued Trump.  “If any of
       the labor unions ever got out of line, Fat Tony would know what
       to do.  He would go out and bust some heads.  Now that’s power,
       imposing one’s will in the style of a real Mafia Godfather.”
       “He wasn’t the Godfather of the Geneovese Family,” Giuliani
       corrected.  Mack could see that Rudy Giuliani was getting
       relaxed, feeling the whisky flow through him, giving him the
       courage to contradict Trump.  Soon he would be getting drunk.
       Trump frowned.  “What do you mean?”
       “He was the ‘front’ boss, the putative Godfather,” replied
       Giuliani.  “The real Godfather was Vincente The Chin Gigante.”
       “The Oddfather,” said Mack briefly pausing from his soup.
       “Yes,” said Giuliani.
       “What do you mean by Oddfather, Mr. Stemple?” asked the
       President.
       “He feigned insanity for years,” replied Mack, “pretending to be
       punch drunk from his former boxing days.  I understand that he
       had psychiatrists diagnose that he suffered from schizophrenia
       and dementia among other things.  It was quite an act.”  Mack
       returned to his soup.
       “What’d he do?” asked the President.
       Giuliani explained, “Accompanied by bodyguards, for years he
       would amble about on the streets of Greenwich dressed in a
       bathrobe and old pajamas, or an old windbreaker and worn
       trousers.  He could be seen picking up old cigarette butts from
       the street and smoking them, talking to himself, making wild
       gestures, or dropping his pants to urinate in public.”
       Mack looked up from his soup.  “It was called his ‘bug act’,”
       Mack added, smiling, “since it sometimes involved the harassment
       of people.  I met him once that way.”  Mack paused and spooned
       the last of his soup into his mouth.
       The President frowned in disbelief.  “How’d you meet him?” he
       asked.
       Mack continued.  “I was in Greenwich Village and had no
       intention of meeting him.  At the time, I was at Calvino’s, at
       one of its sidewalk tables waiting for my breakfast, when
       Gigante ambled up, as Giuliani would say, in his old pajamas and
       bathrobe accompanied by two of his bodyguards.  That was back in
       the summer of 1984.  He was unshaven and looked tired.”
       “What’d he do?” asked the President.
       “Uninvited, he sat down at my breakfast table and started
       muttering something to himself.  I could see that the pajamas
       and bathrobe were dirty.  After watching him for a minute, I
       asked one of his bodyguards, ‘how long has this been going on?’
       The bodyguard replied, ‘you don’t know who this is?’  When I
       answered no, the bodyguard replied, ‘for years’.”
       “If I remember correctly,” interjected Giuliani, “he’d been
       feigning insanity since 1969 or 1970, so if you had seen him in
       1984, he’d probably been doing it for about fourteen years up to
       that time.”
       “It’s odd, him behaving that way,” said the President returning
       to his soup.
       Mack smiled at that.  “When my generous breakfast plate of
       freshly-made corned beef hash, lightly seasoned with honey and
       garlic, topped with three poached eggs, with hot garlic toast
       arrived, I could see Gigante’s eyes light up.  After I had
       lightly peppered the dish and put some hot sauce on the eggs, I
       was struck by the hunger in The Chin’s eyes.  When my large
       glass of Clamato juice arrived, I asked one of his bodyguards,
       ‘has he eaten, yet?’  The guard said that he hadn’t eaten for
       hours.  At that point I said that ‘out in the West where I come
       from, we could never see a man go hungry’, and slid the plate
       and glass in front him.”
       “I suppose he relished the food,” said Giuliani.
       “He initially sat there, probably startled that I’d given the
       food to him.  Soon he started wolfing the food down, like a
       starving man, but gradually he let up and ate more normally.  I
       could tell that he was enjoying it.”
       “I don’t like hash,” muttered Trump as he finished his soup.
       “It’s a good meal for a mobster,” said Mack.  “A substantial
       meal lessens the need for interrupting business by going out for
       meals during the course of the day.”
       “That’s also the advantage of pasta,” said Giuliani, sipping his
       whisky.
       “So he cheated you out of a breakfast,” said Trump frowning.
       No, Mr. President,” said Mack.  “When Gigante finished his meal,
       he belched loudly and got up and shambled on, followed by his
       two bodyguards, one of which, dropped a hundred dollar bill on
       the table for me.  Moments after that, the manager of Calvino’s
       came out and apologized for the interruption of my breakfast and
       offered a refund on my breakfast if I needed to go.  I said that
       I didn’t have to leave and soon another identical plate of
       breakfast hash came out for me.  They had heard me talking with
       the bodyguards and were stunned when I said I didn’t know who
       the Oddfather was.  I offered to pay for the second breakfast
       plate but they refused me.”
       “So you came out a hundred dollars ahead,” said Trump.  “But I
       don’t think I’d offer my breakfast to any seemingly shabby
       riff-raff or panhandler.”
       “Better to be kind to a man, seemingly insane, rather than to
       have that man dumping your breakfast plate onto the ground,”
       said Giuliani.
       “I think, Mr. President, that Gigante was favorably impressed
       with me.”  Mack sipped some of his whisky.
       “How’s that?” asked the President.
       “As far as he knew, we were both strangers to each other, yet I
       offered him compassion and respect, and offered him food, which
       he accepted, something Italians and Italian-Americans view very
       favorably.  I had given him respect, something that was rarely
       accorded to him in his lifetime.”
       Trump shook his head.  “No, Mr. Stemple.  That can’t be.  The
       Mafia has great power and is greatly feared as a consequence of
       that power.  The Chin wouldn’t have tolerated any disrespect and
       it wouldn’t have gone well with you if you hadn’t shown him
       that.”
       “I think you’re missing the point, Mr. President, on what
       happened between us,” Mack disagreed.  “Those who are feared do
       not receive respect, only fear.  Fear is not the same thing as
       respect.  At a certain point, I think that The Chin wanted
       respect, not fear.”
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       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:47 pm
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       “That’s something that doesn’t seem important to me,” said
       Trump.  “I don’t believe that respect cannot come except from
       fear.  What’s important is the power that leads to human
       respect.”
       “Gigante had loads of power,” Mack responded.  “He was the
       protégé of Vito Genovese himself and his former ultra-secretive
       boss, Philip Benny Squints Lombardo.  But in his world he didn’t
       have much love.  At a certain point, I think that The Chin
       would’ve wanted a little genuine respect.”
       “I think that he’d rather have you fear him,” the President said
       brusquely.
       “That’s possible, Mr. President, but as far as he knew, we were
       both as ships passing in the night, and that it was a moment of
       human respect between two men.”
       “Love is like everything else, something bought and sold.”
       Trump remarked unconvinced.
       “We’ve also had that conversation before, Mr. President.”
       The men fell silent as the stewards entered and cleared the now
       empty soup dishes and placed the salad plates in front of each
       guest of the Presidential party.  Mack was pleased with the
       tossed salad he received.  It was a wonderful creation which had
       a red leaf lettuce, red cabbage, spinach, and sweet onion
       medley, with cherry tomatoes, thinly sliced radishes and
       avocado, all lightly sprinkled with bacon crumbs, with carrot
       and celery sticks and a house Italian dressing served on the
       side.  Earlier, while in the main dining room, he had thought
       about the lobster salad, but this was fine.
       Trump was eating with gusto his wedge salad with a knife and
       fork, one of the few salads that he really liked and which had
       to be eaten with both utensils.  Mack could see that Trump’s
       salad had a generous wedge of iceberg lettuce, topped off by red
       onions, pomegranate arils, bacon crumbs, and genuine Rocquefort
       blue cheese dressing made from sheep’s milk from the South of
       France, something proudly offered by Restaurante Courbert.
       Mack looked briefly around at the salads the Pences and Rudy
       Giuliani were having.  They all appeared delightful.  He resumed
       his eating, listening to the Pences speaking briefly and vaguely
       to each other about a private family matter.  Melania Trump
       remained as quiet as always, a trophy wife meant to be seen, not
       heard.  When the ladies had finished their first glass of wine,
       Vice President Pence briefly stood and poured a second glass of
       wine for the ladies.
       Rudy Giuliani, who was eating a tossed salad similar to Mack’s,
       except that it had a vinegar and oil dressing, casually asked
       Mack, “Did you ever hear about the mobster Matthew Matty  the
       Horse Ianniello?”
       “Yes I have,” answered Mack between bites of salad.
       “Who’s he?” asked Trump, looking up from his salad.
       Giulaini grinned, his eyes twinkling.  “He’s a mobster, Mr.
       President, that you and I’ve bought many fine products and
       services over the years.”
       Mack smiled at that and Trump looked puzzled.  Both men
       continued eating their salads.  After eating a few more bites of
       salad, Mack looked up and saw that Giuliani was grinning at
       Trump whose face remained puzzled.
       Eventually Giuliani relented.  Still grinning at the President,
       he said, “Matty the Horse controlled the prostitutes, sex clubs
       and peep shows around Times Square.  He also had control of many
       of the call girls in Manhattan.”
       Trump looked up from his salad.  He lamented, “I miss those days
       when the sexual revolution came.  It had finally made things
       wide open for everybody, despite the self-righteous busybodies
       that disliked the fact that people were having fun.  There was a
       lot of fine excitement back in those days, with all those Times
       Square hookers.”
       Giuliani, still smiling, continued, “I take it that Fordham and
       Wharton girls were disappointing.”  He grinned and returned to
       his plate, hungrily forking salad into his mouth.
       Trump also returned to his salad, grumbling, “It was damned
       disappointing indeed, Rudy.  The Fordham and Wharton girls were
       too lily pure for real men, wouldn’t put out for the Trump. So
       it was just as well for me to return home and have the usual
       slam, bam, thank you ma’ams.”
       Mack wondered what the ladies at the table thought about Trump’s
       last statement.  Stealing a glance at them, he observed that the
       women’s faces were impassive.  They didn’t say anything.
       Perhaps this was to be expected.  In Trump’s presence, what did
       it matter what a woman said or thought?
       Mack did eventually notice Karen Pence’s fleeting grimace of
       disapproval.  Mack reflected that it had come out in the news
       months ago that she had considered the President odious.  And
       the President eventually learned of it.  Later, it was the usual
       politics regarding such scandals.  The Pences denied the
       statement and the President called the Pence marriage a
       wonderful marriage, somehow making a bad moment of scandal into
       one of goodness and light again.  It reminded Mack of the
       proverb about dining with bad company, ‘Better a dish of herbs
       when love is there, than a fattened ox and the hatred to go with
       it’.
       The silence except for the faint clash of cutlery continued
       until the Presidential party finished their salads.  It was over
       their drinks that the conversation resumed.
       The President said, “The Fordham and Wharton girls didn’t know
       what they had in Trump.  For supposedly smart women, they passed
       Trump up for all the chumps that were around them.”
       “Now that’s a word I haven’t heard in a while,” said Mack
       softly.
       “It’s like I said, Stemple.  I have the words, all the best
       words.  And chump’s a good word.  Like I said, those girls
       married losers, chumps merely, and all they got out of it was
       chump-change.”
       “So you think that, apparently, they didn’t think you were a
       good buy for their love?” asked Mack.
       Giuliani smiling wickedly asked, “Didn’t the girls mob you like
       Julio Iglesias in the 1970s?”
       Trump smiled, “Yes indeed, Rudy.  The young girls worshipped
       Trump back then.  Trump was hot like he is now, and the girls
       loved it.  Hot between the legs, and eager to put out, they
       mobbed Trump back in the day.  At the sight of me, they would
       become hysterical, and screaming, they would tear off their
       panties to throw at me.”
       Mack looked briefly at Melania Trump and Karen Pence.  Melania
       was looking at her wine glass, her face expressionless.  Karen
       Pence was looking at the President, her eyes clearly showing her
       annoyance.
       Looking at Mack, the President, with triumphant eyes, continued,
       “And to resume one of our prior conversations, Mr. Stemple, I
       will continue to assert that monogamy is monotony and that it’s
       normal for human males to have multiple sexual partners.  I can
       only say that as far as true, manly men are concerned, marital
       fidelity is for fools.”
       “I would continue to disagree,” answered Mack.
       Turning to his right, Trump asked, with his eyes twinkling
       mischievously, “What does our Vice President have to say about
       this?”
       Pence, fascinated at Trump’s heightened lucidity ever since Mack
       had arrived, looked annoyed, defensive about being drawn into
       this conversation.  Trump’s lucidity for Pence was very
       disturbing.  “People have many differing ideas about this
       subject,” he said evasively, not wanting to contradict the
       President, especially this more lucid, more alarming President.
       Mack, annoyed at the Vice President’s response a typical
       Washington evasion.  Regrettably, given that Pence was
       determined to be too much of a toady of the President to ever be
       his own man and so he could never be read into the secrecy of
       the AAP, the American Anti-Psi Program.  Because of his
       ineffectual leadership in his national security responsibilities
       he eventually had to be put under a mind-lock similar to the
       President’s by Mack’s own colleague, Warwick Cota.  Regrettably,
       Vice President Pence’s mind lock didn’t improve his courage.
       The stewards appeared and quietly began clearing the salad
       plates off the table.  The bar steward also appeared and
       inquired of the President and Vice President if they wanted
       anything.  Trump requested a hard seltzer, deciding at long last
       to have alcohol at his meal.  Vice President Pence requested
       another bottle of O’Douls.  The ladies were fine with their
       bottle of wine only partially consumed.  Rudy Giuliani ordered
       several tall glasses and Mack ordered only one more tall glass
       of the splendid 21-year old Ballantine blended scotch.  Soon the
       stewards were gone.
       Trump said, “Despite all this talk, I must say that the Pences
       have a wonderful marriage.  I suppose marriage works for some
       people.”
       “It didn’t work for me,” said Giuliani dully, sipping his
       whisky.
       #Post#: 27205--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:50 pm
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       The stewards quietly set the dinner plates before the guests of
       the Presidential party.  Mack could see that Trump received his
       blackened, well-done New York strip steak and small bottle of
       ketchup.  Undoubtedly, Mack thought, The Donald was miffed that
       he couldn’t get his beloved steak fries and had to settle for
       the garlic mashed potatoes.  As the plate was being set down by
       the steward, Mack noted that the President’s steak seemed to
       slide along part of the plate.  That meant that the steak was
       charred dry enough for The Donald with most of its juices having
       been cooked out of it.  Mack noticed Trump looking dubiously at
       the dinner’s vegetable medley which included steamed sweet
       onions, cauliflower and squash.  No doubt Trump would, after
       only a few bites, not eat any more of it.  Children and adult
       children do not like their vegetables.
       Vice President Pence received his medium-rare Filet Mignon steak
       with garlic mashed potatoes and an asparagus side dish.  His
       face reflected his pleasure at the sight and smell of his fine
       meal, a specialty of this restaurant.  Mack never had steaks in
       New York City.  Better steaks were to be found in Montana.  The
       ladies, Melania Trump and Karen Pence, received their large,
       peeled crab-stuffed avocados served on a thin bed of Savoy, red,
       and Napa cabbage, with raspberry vinaigrette on the side to
       drizzle on the cabbage, if they so wished to eat the cabbage
       medley.  They also received a small side dish of fried calamari
       with a garlic lemon dipping sauce.  Mack approved of their
       entrees.  In past years, when he was in Manhattan during the
       summer, he sometimes ordered this dish when he came to
       Restaurante Courbet.  The salad, highly popular with many, was
       surprisingly rich and filling.  He was pleased that one of the
       stewards thoughtfully freshened up the ladies’ glasses with more
       wine.
       Mack watched as Rudy Giuliani received his large corn-meal fried
       oysters with beans and rice with its mild mustard sauce on the
       side.  He also received his side dish of a sweet dill pickled
       cucumber onion salad, a dish that Mack highly favored.  Looking
       at Mr. Giuliani’s dish, Mack observed, with satisfaction, the
       large size of the oysters, and ruefully thought that oysters
       that size are never found in Montana.  Rudy Giuliani, his face
       had the jab of whisky affecting him, seemed to lack any
       appreciation for the food that had been set before him.  He had
       finished the second tall glass of his Ballantine blended scotch
       and seemed more intent on drinking his third glass.
       To Mack’s pleasure, the stewards finally set the large dish of
       smoked deboned duck with caramelized apricots, with a side dish
       of brown rice and shallots over asparagus before him.  Mack
       could see, with great satisfaction, the deboned smoked duck meat
       was setting upon its delicately seasoned skin, the small boned
       wings and drumsticks along its sides with the caramelized
       apricots.  In a separate dish a honey habanero apricot barbeque
       sauce for dipping or pouring onto the meat was present.  Mack
       would gently pour it over the meat as the meal continued.  Also
       given to him, to his surprise were several thick slices of
       buttered garlic toast.  It came with the side dish of brown rice
       and shallots over asparagus.  This had not been listed on the
       menu description.
       Mack looked up.  He could see that President Trump and Vice
       President Pence were already eating, occupied with their food.
       The ladies hadn’t touched their salads and calamari.  They had
       politely waited for Mack and Rudy Giuliani to receive their
       food.  Mack smiled at them for this, and soon they, and Mr.
       Giuliani, were eating.
       To Trump, Mack said, “Thank you, Mr. President, for this
       dinner.”
       Trump looked up briefly from his food, “You’re welcome, Mr.
       Stemple,” and returned to his steak, cutting chunks of meat to
       dip into his ketchup before quickly putting it into his mouth.
       Mack noted that the President had poured his ketchup into a
       small blob next to his steak instead of pouring it directly onto
       his steak as some did with their liver and onions.  It was many
       years ago at a former Manhattan dinner, in which Trump was
       present, when Mack was dining with his wealthy Manhattan friend,
       Preston Callendar, Mack had discovered that The Donald was
       squeamish about eating rare meat.  Children and adult children
       do not like rare meat as well as vegetables. Interestingly, for
       this meal, Mack observed that Vice President Pence never
       attempted to say grace before this meal.  It was simply never
       done in the presence of a sitting President whose actions
       clearly showed that he didn’t believe in God.
       Mack turned his attention again to his plate.  He lifted up one
       of his small duck wings and, using his mouth and tongue, lifted
       the delicately moist smoked meat and skin off the bones and into
       its mouth.  It tasted delicious.  He ate the other wing and then
       the two drumsticks, savoring the flavor of the meat and skin.
       Wiping his fingers on the cloth napkin, using one of his spoons,
       he put some of the honey habanero apricot barbeque sauce on the
       meat and started eating the meat and slices of caramelized
       apricots with his fork.  Shortly after that, he tried the brown
       rice and shallots with the asparagus.  All of it was delicious,
       very satisfying.
       The flavor of the duck reminded him of a small restaurant that
       served various excellent game dishes that he favored which was
       located on the Oregon coast.  At that restaurant, during the
       winter, he would eat and watch the rain and wind as it blew in
       from the Pacific, the wind causing the pines on the ridge behind
       the restaurant to sway and roar, adding a kind of music to the
       dining experience.
       As Mack ate and occasionally sipped the diet coke or whisky, he
       recalled the disapproval that his meal would cause among the
       truly educated palates of discriminating Manhattan gourmets.
       Coke and whisky are monstrous subversions of taste which
       negatively affected a discriminating gourmet palate trained for
       the sensitive tasting of a medley of flavors.  Of course, a true
       gourmet would not be eating from Restaurante Courbet’s executive
       menu on the plainer fare days, but only on those days when it
       offered its highly coveted premium menu entrees.
       Mack and the others of the Presidential party ate largely
       quietly.  Little noise was heard except the clash of cutlery.
       The only exception was Trump who was eating more noisily in his
       usual fashion, but this was what people expected of Trump.  The
       President always wanted to draw attention to himself in subtle
       and unsubtle ways, even while dining.
       Everyone ate at a leisurely pace and Mack sensed that the
       Presidential party was very happy that Trump was silent, not
       talking about himself or about politics and other matters.  Mack
       reckoned that the reprieve would be short.  When the food was
       good, the eating of most entrees was usually done quickly.
       Trump would be eating faster than most.  Trump would remain
       hungry despite the food, ever hungry to feed his ego.
       When Rudy Giuliani had finished his third tall glass of the
       Ballantine whisky and signaled the bartender for a fourth tall
       glass, Mack decided that he’d have another as well, and ordered
       his third tall glass of the expensive whisky.  The men were
       happy about Trump’s deep financial pockets, happy for having
       Trump pay for his Presidential ego.  After his tall glass had
       been served, Mack returned to his food with relish, enjoying the
       medley of the smoky taste of the meat and whisky.
       As the Presidential party was largely finishing their dinners,
       Mack smiled at the thought that this was not a set of diners who
       would be taking food back to the family dog or cat.  The only
       exceptions were the President, who didn’t finish his vegetable
       medley, and Melania Trump, who declined eating the thin cabbage
       medley that the crabmeat stuffed avocados rested upon.
       Trump finishing his glass of hard seltzer, his eyes more relaxed
       because of the food and drink, still had glint of amusement.
       Turning to the Vice President, he asked Pence, “You said earlier
       that marriage was between one man and one woman, and you didn’t
       like men playing the field outside marriage.”
       Pence looked up from his bottle of O’Douls.  “I didn’t say
       that,” he replied.
       “But that’s what you believe in.”
       “I do.”  The Vice President sounded defensive.
       Trump smiled, “Then why did Solomon, that wise man, have
       multiple wives?  He was supposedly a great man.  He, undoubtedly
       was a great man with large appetites.  This teaching among
       church people about Jesus supposedly saying that marriage is
       only between one man and one woman seems far-fetched.”
       “It was because of the hardness of men’s hearts that polygamy
       and divorce was permitted.”
       “So you’re saying, Mike, that God recognized that Jewish men
       needed to have their fornication within marriage rather than
       outside it, and so permitted it?”
       “I wouldn’t call polygamy fornication.”
       “But if marriage is only between one man and one woman, what
       would you call it if it isn’t fornication?”
       Pence didn’t answer.
       Trump continued, “It seems to me that fidelity and truth in
       marriage is an illusion.  Fidelity is for fools and monogamy is
       monotony.  Powerful men reach out and take what they want.
       That’s the way it is.  That’s the way it’s always been.
       Certainly that was the case with wise Solomon.”
       Pence looked at Trump with eyes that seemed to say, ‘why are you
       doing this?’  Pence opened his mouth to say something but then
       closed it.  He didn’t answer.
       “I know, Mike, that you’re against sodomy, and you know that I’m
       also squeamish about it, but that’s the way of the world.  If
       powerful men want boys as well as women, even women on the
       younger side, shouldn’t they gratify their desires?  That’s what
       appetites are for.  Didn’t we all eat different dinners?  Isn’t
       sex just having another varied menu of items?  Powerful men must
       have what they want and that’s the natural order of things.”
       Pence didn’t respond.  He struggled to look impassive but his
       sharp eyes reflected his anger.
       Trump was grinning, happy at teasing his Vice President.
       “That’s part of the idiocy of law and order,” Trump continued.
       “And speaking about divorce, I’ve had three wives over the
       years.  This should be something that should be expected of rich
       men and women.  ‘The rich are different’ as the saying goes and
       most Christians recognize this.”  Trump turned his eyes to Rudy
       Giuliani.  “What do you say, Rudy”
       “Marriage is overrated,” said Giuliani.  “I’ve never had a happy
       marriage anything like the Pences.”  Rudy smiled sadly, “All
       I’ve ever met were demanding women.  Women who want a man to toe
       their line and not even look at another woman.  Now what kind of
       relationship is that?”  He took another sip of his whisky.
       “Monogamy is monotony,” intoned Trump.  “What I don’t understand
       is why women fail to understand that powerful men need an open
       marriage.”
       #Post#: 27206--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:51 pm
       ---------------------------------------------------------
       The Pences still didn’t respond.
       Mack smiled and decided he might tease Trump.  He said, “I see
       from the news that you were sexually enjoying a p*** star while
       your wife was nursing your youngest new-born son, Baron, back in
       2006.”
       Trump looked at Mack and smiled.  “It’s like I said.  Great men
       have large appetites.”  He smiled at Melania who refused to look
       back at him, but instead, looked down at her dinner plate, her
       face remaining neutral.
       Mack pressed on, “You wealthy, open-marriage men seem to like
       women having large breasts.”
       “Stormy did have large breasts,” Giuliani agreed.
       “She did at that,” agreed Trump.  “She would’ve been a worthy
       addition to Solomon’s harem.  Perhaps wise old Solomon had a few
       boys around for his pleasure as well.”  Turning to the Vice
       President, he said, "I'm glad that Christians are so truthful in
       their undivided support for me. Isn't that right, Mr. Pence?"
       "Yes, Mr. President.”  Pence smiled unctuously.  “We're very
       glad that you're our President and look forward to the many
       happy things coming for America in the future."
       Giuliani, grinning at Pence, laughed and said, "That air kiss
       you received from the President at the Convention was
       undoubtedly from the heart."
       Trump laughed as well, "What do you think of that, Mrs. Pence?"
       Karen Pence glared at the President.  Her husband quickly nudges
       her and she quickly looked away, her eyes still flashing anger.
       Trump and Giuliani laugh.  Mike Pence smiled weakly.
       Mack, after sipping some whisky, said, "Leave her alone.  This
       doesn't add anything to the meal."
       Giuliani, still smiling, said to Mack, "It does add spice to it,
       doesn't it?"
       Mack looked at the Pences.  No doubt, they were very annoyed
       about inviting the President for dinner.  Maybe Mack could add
       to the annoyance. He asked the Vice President, “Mr. Pence, what
       do say to those Christians who believe that you and other
       supporters of the President have fundamentally betrayed the
       Christian faith?”
       The Vice President glared at Mack.  This was one aggravation too
       many.  “I would say that that’s false, a lie coming from the pit
       of hell,” Pence snapped, his sharp eyes looking frostily at
       Mack.
       Mack met his gaze and asked, “What is being truthful about
       supporting the President, Mr. Pence?  Hasn’t the President
       declared in this company, and by his own actions in his
       Presidency, that the great man says the truth is only what the
       great man says it is, and that this supposed great man’s truth
       has nothing to do with facts or justice?  Doesn’t the truth
       matter when Christians are supposed to worship God in Spirit and
       in truth?”
       Pence snapped back, “Christians need to do what must be done to
       preserve power.  We need to have the courts controlled by
       conservative justices and we need to put an end to abortion and
       to gay marriage.”
       “So we must give up the Christian faith in the name of ending
       abortion and gay marriage?”
       “I’m not saying that.  I’m saying that abortion and gay marriage
       and the social toleration of gays must end.”
       Mack remained unconvinced. “This all sounds like situation
       ethics where the ends justify the means,” he said.
       The Vice President snapped back, “The culture war must end with
       Christians being victorious.  Good Christian folk are tired of
       turning the other cheek and calling people to repentance.”
       “So repentance and turning the other cheek are no longer
       important?  Why must this be done at the expense of the
       Christian faith?”
       Pence glared at Mack and for a moment trembled in anger.  Then
       he remembered where he was and calmed down.  “I don’t see it
       that way,” Pence said quietly.  “I think that all good
       Christians should unite around Trump.”
       “If the truth is just another lie, how can Christians witness
       for their faith and call upon others to repentance?  How can any
       non-Christian take a Christian seriously?  It seems to me that
       all followers of Trump have already lost their Christian faith.”
       “I can see how that happened,” interjected Giuliani.  “It goes
       back to the past.  The fools that rejected evolution had to
       deceive themselves with their elaborate deceits.  Later, when
       confronted about whether sexual orientation was voluntary or
       not, they went into their further deceits.  Then, in the culture
       and political wars, they decided upon even more deceits,
       becoming in the end deluded hypocrites.  In the end it was all
       nonsense.”
       “It was all nonsense and it ended in nonsense, but the nonsense
       is useful to us,” said Trump.  “Politics is the art of the lie
       as much as it is of the deal.  The great men, the men of power
       know and utilize deceit as a tool.  The deceits make them wolves
       and their followers wolves.  Christians can’t be sheep anymore.”
       Giuliani paused, and sipped his whisky.  Mack figured not too
       long from now, he’d be getting drunk.  “I agree, Mr. President,
       he said.  “The herd of men and women are fools, merely sheep
       addicted to the deceits.  And they hate.  What can I say about
       this hypocrisy?  Actually, conservative Christians have little
       use for worshipping God in Spirit and truth.  They’ve gotten
       over that nonsense.”
       “If the truth be told, conservatives are not Christian,”
       declared Trump.  “They're just like everybody else.”
       Mack watched as Karen Pence looked at her husband with sadness,
       both for him and, doubtlessly, for herself.  They were both
       paying the price for their bargain with the devil, just as much
       as Trump was.  Selling one’s soul to the devil can rarely be
       bought back cheaply.
       “You know, Mother, that we have to be patient in our dealings
       with the world.”  Pence said pensively.  “We have to do those
       things that will further God’s Kingdom.”
       “You call your wife, Mother?” said Giuliani, grinning.  “Isn’t
       that rather strange?”
       Pence didn’t respond.
       “I wonder what would happen if you had your wife and mother with
       you at the same time,” said Giuliani, gleefully.  “I suppose
       that would lead to some confusion.”
       Trump snickered.
       Mack felt a rising irritation. To take the conversational heat
       off the Pences, he asked Karen Pence, “Didn’t you and Mr. Pence
       have trouble having children?”
       “Yes, Mr. Stemple,” she answered.  “It took three years before
       we had our first child.  We’ve had some medical issues.”
       “Why does your husband call you ‘mother’?” asked Mack.
       “Mike calls me that since he wants to honor me as a mother and
       to honor motherhood among women.”
       “He’s rather old-fashioned, isn’t he?”
       “He is,” said Karen.  “He’s longed for children for a very long
       time.”
       Trump smiled, “Despite its quirks, the Pences have a fine
       marriage, don’t they?”
       The Vice-President looked frostily at the President.
       “We’re only kidding around here,” said Trump.
       Mack looked at Mike Pence.  “I disagree with something you
       implied, Mr. Vice President,” he said.
       “What’s that?”  Pence looked at Mack with annoyance.
       “God’s Kingdom is not of this world, in contradiction to what
       your words seem to imply.  And God’s Kingdom is not furthered
       with deceit or with any form of situation ethics.”
       The conversation abruptly ended as the stewards came in to
       remove the dishes from the dinner table.  After the dishes had
       been cleared from the table, the stewards handed out the dessert
       menus, and quietly departed.
       After the Presidential party looked at the dessert menu, when
       the head steward returned, the President and Vice President both
       selected Sachertorte cake slices with a rich dark chocolate
       frosting, Mrs. Pence and Mack selected bread pudding with
       raisins and cinnamon. Melania Trump and Rudy Giuliani declined
       having any dessert.  Rudy Giuliani concentrated his attention on
       his whisky and had ordered another tall glass of the Ballantine
       scotch.  It was easy for Mack to see that Giuliani would not be
       going home with the Trumps and would linger at Restaurante
       Courbet’s small bar for the evening.
       Soon the stewards returned and set the desserts in front of the
       members of the Presidential party.  The head steward asked the
       President and the Presidential party if anything else was
       requested.  There was only silence or he was told no.  Mack
       complimented the head steward how well his staff had helped with
       this dinner, which pleased the steward, a meticulous man in his
       forties.  The steward then departed.
       #Post#: 27207--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:54 pm
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       Mack watched as President Trump and Vice President Pence began
       eating their Sachertorte cake slices, which were dense chocolate
       cake slices with a thin layer of apricot jam on top, coated in
       dark chocolate icing on the tops and sides.  This was a
       traditional High German dessert and would be an expected choice
       of a President who loved his sweets.  What surprised Mack was
       that Vice President Pence had chosen a torte rather than an
       éclair, especially the restaurant’s premier vanilla cream cheese
       éclair in puff pastry, a light, pleasant dessert that was not
       overly rich and sweet.  Perhaps his food choices were dictated
       by the President’s food choices.  Sycophants do attempt to
       mirror their masters in many ways.
       Karen Pence and Mack had been served their bread pudding.  Mack
       could smell the cinnamon and see the large, plump raisins that
       went through the large serving portion.  Restaurante Courbet had
       also put rum, nutmeg and brown sugar into this dish, their
       premier bread pudding.  It was delicious and Mack savored the
       taste.  It was a dessert that went well with the smoked duck and
       whisky he had eaten earlier.  Mack paused and wondered.
       Perhaps, he also should have had one of the éclairs instead.  He
       always enjoyed the variety of eclairs here.
       Trump soon began to speak again while everyone was finishing
       their desserts.  To Mack, he said, “I reject your idea that the
       great man is the virtuous man.”
       “Love is very powerful, Mr. President,” was Mack’s reply.
       Donald Trump set back in his chair.  His eyes had the aura of
       triumph about them.  “Power is not in morality,” He said.  “It
       is far from it.  The great man is above morality, above truth.
       He is beyond good and evil.”  Trump paused to let those words
       sink into the ears of his dinner guests.  “Love is like
       everything else, something bought and sold.”
       “We’ve had this conversation before.”  Mack replied.  “The same
       had been said by the likes of men such as Nietzsche and Hitler.”
       “They were right about that however much they’ve been maligned
       in the past,” snapped Trump.  “And that’s the way the world
       works!  There are the predators and the prey, the winners and
       the losers.  That’s the way it is.  That’s the way it’s always
       been.”
       Mack frowned.  “I find that Nietzsche and Hitler didn’t have or
       receive much love in the end,” he said. “Their lives were
       emotionally squalid even though they were surrounded for many
       years by their privileges of wealth and power.  Living without
       love, I think, is a dire sort of poverty.”
       “That’s something easily solved,” interjected Giuliani, in an
       unsteady voice, as he was sinking into drunkenness. “There are
       always the Manhattan call girls and the Times Square hookers.
       Now that’s the answer to a bad marriage!”  Giuliani’s head
       weaved.  He looked as if he was a man ready to rest his head
       onto the table and go to sleep.
       Trump continued.  Turning to the Vice President, he asked, “What
       do you say about this, Mike?”  When Pence did not respond but
       only made a face, the President laughed.
       Mack interrupted the President, “Nietzsche, though considered by
       many to be very wise, did, in the end, die from syphilitic
       insanity.  He’d had one hooker too many.”
       “A great man can take precautions in these matters,” answered
       Trump.  “I’ve had many women over the years.  It’s like buying
       any other product.  One learns the markets and which providers
       have the better products.  In this case, the better stables of
       women and boys.  One goes to the good markets and avoids those
       markets that don’t practice quality control.”  Trump looked at
       Karen Pence.  “What do you think about that, Mrs. Pence?”  She
       grimaced at that and turned her head away from him.  Trump
       laughed.  He, then taunted her, “What’s the matter, Mrs. Pence?
       Don’t tell me that you’re anti-business?”
       “Leave her alone,” said Mack.
       Trump laughed again.  To Mack, he said, “What do you say about
       this, Mr. Stemple?”
       “We’ve spoken about this before,” said Mack.
       Trump looked at all his guests in triumph and, focusing his eyes
       on Mack, continued, “It’s like I’ve said before, Mr. Stemple in
       our conversations.  Religion is simply another means to serve
       the masters in society, to further their power.  Mike and Karen
       Pence know this.  And if the truth be told, religious ideas of
       virtue are nonsense and often get into the way of business.”
       Trump surveyed his fellow diners, his eyes seemingly challenging
       his listeners to disagree with him.
       Mack didn’t respond to Trump’s statement.  Instead, looking
       towards the Vice President, he asked, “Do you agree with him on
       this, Mr. Vice President?”
       Pence, frowning at Mack, didn’t respond.  In no way did he want
       to be drawn into this discussion.
       “Well?” asked Mack.
       Then Pence responded, quoting scripture, which surprised Mack.
       Pence said, “I have to agree with the President on this,” the
       Vice President declared.  “In Romans 13:1-7, the Apostle Paul
       states: ‘Let every person be subject to the governing
       authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and
       those that exist have been instituted by God.   Therefore
       whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed,
       and those who resist will incur judgment.   For rulers are not a
       terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of
       the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will
       receive his approval,   for he is God's servant for your good.
       But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword
       in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries
       out God's wrath on the wrongdoer.   Therefore one must be in
       subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake
       of conscience.   For because of this you also pay taxes, for the
       authorities are ministers of God, attending to this very thing.
       Pay to all what is owed to them: taxes to whom taxes are owed,
       revenue to whom revenue is owed, respect to whom respect is
       owed, honor to whom honor is owed.’  Because of this, it is a
       sin to contradict and disobey, in any manner, the President whom
       God has put over us.”’
       Mack heard a laugh to his right, it was from Giuliani.
       “Hey, he knows his Bible,” said Giuliani with his eyes mocking
       the Vice President.
       Mack looked back at the Vice President who met his eyes with a
       frown.  No doubt Pence had memorized and used scriptural proof
       texts for years to justify his place in government, and for his
       support of gravely immoral politicians such as Donald Trump.
       But it wasn’t good enough for Mack, who replied, saying, “That
       kind of scriptural proof doesn’t sound plausible to me.”
       “It’s God’s Word,” said Pence adamantly.
       “Hold on, Mike,” said Giuliani, grinning.  “Mack’s got a
       powerful memory.”
       Mack considered the Vice President, noted his sharp, annoyed
       eyes and proceeded with the usual response.  “You’re
       misinterpreting the passage,” he said.  “In Romans 13:8-12, the
       Apostle Paul continues, ‘Owe no one anything, except to love
       each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law.
       For the commandments, “You shall not commit adultery, You
       shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet,” and
       any other commandment, are summed up in this word: “You shall
       love your neighbor as yourself.”  Love does no wrong to a
       neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.  Besides
       this you know the time, that the hour has come for you to wake
       from sleep. For salvation is nearer to us now than when we first
       believed.  The night is far gone; the day is at hand. So then
       let us cast off the works of darkness and put on the armor of
       light.’ We are to love our neighbor as ourselves, to do no wrong
       to a neighbor, to wake from sleep.  As a woke people we can only
       do those things that further the love that God has loved us.
       Because of this, our obedience to government is conditioned by
       our love and forbearance with others.  Sharp business practices
       that damage society cannot be accepted by Christians, and we are
       to worship the Lord in spirit and in truth.”
       “I’ve always admired your photographic memory, Mack,” said
       Giuliani.  “No wonder that you can remember menus from the 1980s
       and that the FBI wanted to hire you for the Mafia
       investigations.”
       “It is one of my talents,” said Mack.  Actually, Mack did have
       the usual morphic memory that ‘norms’ had.  The eidetic memory
       was also available to him only with deeper concentration.
       “So you’re a Woke Christian,” said Pence.
       “I am,” said Mack, “which is clearly in keeping with Romans 13.”
       “I never knew you as a social justice warrior, Mack,” said
       Giuliani.
       “I believe in justice for everyone,” said Mack turning his head
       to Giuliani.  He smiled at the former federal prosecutor, and
       then at Trump and Pence.
       Giuliani persisted, “Don’t you think, Mack, that the teachings
       of Jesus are extreme?  You’ve seen a lot about human nature and
       you know that people are no good.  I know you have,” he said.
       “Do you really believe in turning the other cheek?”
       Mack turned to Pence.  “What do you say about this, Mr. Vice
       President?”  Mack was amused that Pence was showing his
       discomfort.  For years he and his fellow, supposed Christians
       were supporting Trump despite all of the manifest sins of the
       President and of the President’s many followers.
       Pence responded in a way that was expected by Mack.  “I would
       say that ‘turning the other cheek’ is extreme to me.  Didn’t you
       hear what Tony Perkins said about the issue, “You know, you only
       have two cheeks . . . Look, Christianity is not all about being
       a welcome mat which people can just stomp their feet on.”  He
       said that to Politico in an interview back in January 2018.”
       “Then are you saying, Mr. Pence, that governments should be
       permitted to stomp on some people, but not on some others?”
       “No, but some people are deserving of better treatment than
       others.  Some people aren’t worth giving the time and day to
       them.  They aren’t deserving of any help.”
       “But isn’t it the sign of love that compassion is for all the
       suffering?  Why shouldn’t we practice justice and forbearance
       with all people?”
       Pence didn’t respond but turned his eyes back to his food.  He
       returned to eating his Sachertorte cake.
       Mack looked down at his unfinished bread pudding and resumed
       eating as well allowing silence to descend onto the Presidential
       party.  Looking briefly at the President, Mack could see the
       President was also finishing his Sachertorte cake.  When Mack
       was finished, he looked at the clock on the wall.  It was 6:45
       pm.  It was getting close to the time for him to go.
       #Post#: 27208--------------------------------------------------
       Re: An October 2019 Dinner With Trump
       By: HOLLAND Date: January 28, 2021, 2:56 pm
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       Trump then resumed his conversation.  “I think that the great
       man is the powerful, wealthy man, the man who rules absolutely.
       Anything other than that is simply nonsense.  Power should
       belong to the rich and power should follow property.  We should
       follow the one golden rule, he that has the gold rules.”  He
       grinned in triumph looking around the table.  Trump continued,
       “The idea of one man, one vote is nonsense, something believed
       in by fools.”
       “I disagree,” said Mack.
       Trump ignored him.  “Political parties are nonsense as well.
       They frustrate wealth and power from obtaining its ultimate true
       ends, the further increase of that wealth and power.”
       “We’ve had this conversation before at Mar a Lago,” said Mack.
       “The supposedly great men who seek such power are only hiding a
       great inner emptiness.”
       “That’s just nonsense, the spouting of lesser men, the
       lightweights envying great men.”
       “So if I understand you correctly, Mr. President, you’re
       expressing your annoyance of any check upon your power by
       others?”
       “I am, Mr. Stemple,” Trump replied.  “I think that a President
       should be above the law.  Certainly my Attorney General, Bill
       Barr, seems to think so.”
       “That’s something that could be challenged.”  Mack remained
       calm. It was important to remain serenely unconvinced, and show
       that in front of the President.  Trump was annoyed by a serene
       confidence that he didn’t share.
       Trump was not put off by Mack’s pose, but looked at Mack with
       mocking eyes.  “Do you know why I’ve wanted you to come here?”
       The President asked triumphantly.
       Mack smiled, “I suppose it is to carry on with our disputes in
       our prior conversations at Mar a Lago and in the White House.”
       “I’m going to show you how wrong you are, how wrong you are to
       question me.  Great men and their supreme offices, such as the
       President, should not be questioned in any way by their
       inferiors.”
       “That seems to be happening right now.  There are the
       impeachment investigations being conducted in the House of
       Representatives.”
       “The impeachment will fail, Mr. Stemple.  They will fail when
       the Impeachment articles get to the Senate.  I’ll never be
       convicted for anything that happened in Ukraine.  I’ll be
       exonerated by the Senate and knowing people will laugh at the
       idea that I could be found guilty of anything.”  Trump paused.
       “Or do you disagree?”
       “I disagree.”
       The President looked at Mack triumphantly.  “Don’t you see it?”
       He said, “I’m above the law already.  I can’t be touched by the
       law, by anyone.  It’s like I said years ago, ‘I can go and shoot
       someone on Fifth Avenue and nobody would convict me.’  Nobody
       can convict me of anything.  I can’t be subpoenaed,
       investigated, charged or convicted by anyone.  I can now make
       the Presidency into what it really should be. Instead of it
       being the office of the people, it should really become what it
       should be, the office of, by and for great men.  And this office
       should further the wealth and power of those great men.
       “And if I support white supremacy in this country to maintain my
       power and authority, I shall do so.  I’m tired of all political
       correctness.  It’s like I always have said in the past, it’s
       time to call a spade a spade, a fag a fag, and a yid a yid.”
       Mack, after looking at the President’s triumphant gaze, looked
       at the other people around the table.  Melania Trump was looking
       down at her dessert plate, not looking at Mack.
       Pence sat looking at the President.  His sharp eyes did not
       indicate a hint of disapproval with what the President was
       saying.  The Vice President’s wife, Karen Pence, was looking at
       her husband, trying to look composed, but her eyes indicated
       otherwise.
       Looking to his right, Mack could see Rudy Giuliani, drinking
       another gulp from his whisky.  The former Mayor of New York City
       seemed highly amused with the conversation.  The former mayor’s
       eyes had the tired look of drunkenness.
       The President looked triumphantly at Mack.  “Things are going to
       change, Mr. Stemple.  After I get my exoneration from the Senate
       next year after the Impeachment, nothing will be able to touch
       me.  I’ll be finally come into the power that’s rightfully mine.
       And I’ll have all the power and authority of government
       centered on me.
       “I’ll be able to finally deal with the swamp in Washington DC,
       all the people who oppose me.  I’ll have the Clintons, the
       Obamas, and the Bidens arrested for their treasons against our
       country.  I’ll go after the press, the courts, and anyone who
       would be foolish enough to resist my authority.  I’ll end this
       nonsense of political parties and democratic elections.”  The
       President paused, “I’ll reign supreme, and no one or anything
       will be able to stop me.”
       “God could stop you if he so chooses.”
       “No, Mr. Stemple, God does not exist.  I’ve lived all my life as
       if he never existed.  Do you expect me to change my opinion
       about God now in this?  Look at how far I’ve come without any
       God propping me up?  Surely I’m one of the unmistakable signs
       that God doesn’t exist.”
       Mack smiled faintly at that.  “God might want you to be fattened
       up like a stockyard steer before your final slaughter.  Pride
       comes before a fall, not to mention many court cases.”
       The President was unmoved.  “That won’t happen, Stemple.  When
       I’ve obtained absolute power, I won’t have to worry about court
       cases. I’ll win all my court cases or I’ll shut the courts down.
       I’ll be President for life.”
       Mack smiled.  “I doubt that’ll happen,” he said.
       “It will happen, Stemple.  It will.”  Trump slapped his hand to
       the table like a judge gaveling his court.  “Religion is meant
       for the masters controlling their people, for controlling their
       servants, or should I say, slaves,” he said triumphantly.  “The
       Saudi family has it right in this.  There shouldn’t be any
       disobedience towards those exercising their authority.  Those
       that are so foolish to disobey their rightful masters should be
       punished for it.”  Trump paused.  “The Saudis have it right.  So
       much so, in this matter of religion and authority, they call
       their country Saudi Arabia.  Perhaps America shouldn’t be called
       the United States of America.  Perhaps it should be called Trump
       America, to reflect the political reality coming in 2020 that
       will give Trump and his children absolute political authority.”
       Mack remained unconvinced.  “That sounds far-fetched.”
       Trump laughed. “Don’t you see, Stemple that I’ve won?  He asked.
       “I’ve won in our previous disputes at our conversations at the
       White House and at Mar a Lago.  I’ve won at this very moment.
       Certainly you have to acknowledge that the world is full of some
       winners and many losers.  I’ve won our disputes and you’ve lost
       them, and there’s nothing you can do about it.”  The President
       laughed again.  “The coming election year, 2020, is going to be
       the year Trump shall obtain absolute power.  This will
       eventually happen after the Senate exonerates me from whatever
       Impeachment charges that are brought before it.  I know that
       this will happen.  I know that –“
       The President was interrupted.  The stewards had entered the
       room, coming to pick up the plates.  Their presence annoyed
       Trump who had to remain silent as the stewards circumambulated
       the dinner table, quickly removing the dishes from the table.
       As Mack viewed the dinner party, he was under the impression
       that most of them were silently relieved that Trump’s speech was
       over.  One thing for sure was that this conversation would have
       to be reported to the Prefecture of the Star People.  They would
       have to, in turn, notify the American Archons.  The year 2020
       was going to be a dangerous year for America and, also, for the
       rest of the world.  As he looked at Trump and their eyes met.
       Trump said, “I reign supreme.”  His dinner party was silent
       before him.
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