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       Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: twinc Date: September 18, 2019, 5:54 pm
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       many Christians[especially JWs/Mormons etc]all Jews, Muslims and
       others ignore/reject the very first commandment given to Moses
       by Jesus[Jn 14:15]that He alone was the one and only true God
       and He alone was to be adored and worshipped - for to Him every
       knee must bow - imho - twinc
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: HOLLAND Date: September 19, 2019, 1:55 pm
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       [quote author=twinc link=topic=1447.msg24034#msg24034
       date=1568847297]
       many Christians[especially JWs/Mormons etc]all Jews, Muslims and
       others ignore/reject the very first commandment given to Moses
       by Jesus[Jn 14:15]that He alone was the one and only true God
       and He alone was to be adored and worshipped - for to Him every
       knee must bow - imho - twinc
       [/quote]
       I think that they don't reject the first commandment per se,
       twinc.  I think they have differing interpretations of that
       commandment and of the person of Jesus.
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: HOLLAND Date: September 19, 2019, 7:25 pm
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       ^^^What are the idols you are talking about, good chap??
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: twinc Date: September 20, 2019, 3:12 am
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       [quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1447.msg24049#msg24049
       date=1568939124]
       ^^^What are the idols you are talking about, good chap??
       [/quote]
       imho what Jesus is really saying but it still has not been
       properly understood is that He and He alone is God - imho -
       twinc
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: Kerry Date: September 20, 2019, 6:20 am
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       [quote author=twinc link=topic=1447.msg24052#msg24052
       date=1568967145]
       imho what Jesus is really saying but it still has not been
       properly understood is that He and He alone is God - imho -
       twinc
       [/quote]Read it again. . . .
       John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship:
       for salvation is of the Jews.
       The Jews are right about that.
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: twinc Date: September 20, 2019, 9:55 am
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       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=1447.msg24053#msg24053
       date=1568978424]
       Read it again. . . .
       John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship:
       for salvation is of the Jews.
       The Jews are right about that.
       [/quote]
       what this is about is that you and others read it again for the
       Jews are wrong and the time has come as at Jn 21 -24 - twinc
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: HOLLAND Date: September 21, 2019, 9:26 am
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       [quote author=Kerry link=topic=1447.msg24053#msg24053
       date=1568978424]
       [quote author=twinc link=topic=1447.msg24052#msg24052
       date=1568967145]
       imho what Jesus is really saying but it still has not been
       properly understood is that He and He alone is God - imho -
       twinc
       [/quote]
       Read it again. . . .
       John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship:
       for salvation is of the Jews.
       The Jews are right about that.
       
       [quote author=twinc link=topic=1447.msg24054#msg24054
       date=1568991354]
       what this is about is that you and others read it again for the
       Jews are wrong and the time has come as at Jn 21 -24 - twinc
       [/quote]    [/quote]
       What did Jesus mean, twinc, when he said in John 4:22 "that
       salvation is of the Jews"?
       What idols are you talking about, good chap?
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: twinc Date: September 21, 2019, 5:41 pm
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       the idols are JHVH/YHWH/ALLAH/BRAHMA ETC - Jesus was a Jew so
       salvation was of the Jews -,twinc
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: Kerry Date: September 21, 2019, 6:13 pm
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       [quote author=twinc link=topic=1447.msg24068#msg24068
       date=1569105699]
       the idols are JHVH/YHWH/ALLAH/BRAHMA ETC - Jesus was a Jew so
       salvation was of the Jews -,twinc
       [/quote]You think Moses got it wrong?
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       Re: Idol Worship......rampant 
       By: guest6 Date: September 21, 2019, 7:28 pm
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       [quote author=twinc link=topic=1447.msg24068#msg24068
       date=1569105699]
       the idols are JHVH/YHWH/ALLAH/BRAHMA ETC - Jesus was a Jew so
       salvation was of the Jews -,twinc
       [/quote]
       What did Jesus say?
       John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: [U]we[/U] know what
       [U]we[/U] worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
       He didn't say [U]they[/U] know what [U]they[/U] worship. He said
       [U]we[/U] twice. It sounds to me like Jesus was including
       himself in the worship of one other than himself. For salvation
       is of the Jews because the Jews know who the only true God is
       and Jesus knows that too.
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