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Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: HOLLAND Date: August 16, 2019, 7:48 pm
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Here at Love God Only, twinc, we have people from a variety of
places. We have Kerry from Carlisle, Pennsylvania and I'm from
Great Falls, Montana. We all, over the years, give various
hints of who we are and where we are from.
I find it intriguing that you've listed where you are from in
your profile. I understand that you live in a special place and
it dominates you theological concerns.
I understand that you live in Wirral, twinc, between the Dee and
the Mersey. I understand that you're in a good place to live
and work in the United Kingdom. Thereabouts you can join the
Wirral Ramblers and take good walks with people who love nature.
I see there are walks you can take to Snowdonia, which is the
U.K.'s largest national park, the Yorkshire Dales which have
that feeling of mystery in British literature, the Lake
District, known by the great poets, and the Peak District, which
I understand has some difficult walks to do. These walks would
call to mind Thomas Traherne and his book, "Centuries".
Then you can finish a happy day of immersion in the great beauty
of nature through an invigorating walk by winding down at your
favorite pub, choosing the special pub grub offering for the day
and washing it down with a pint.
Then you ponder the great mystery that nature as the greatest
cathedral of God and that there is nothing human to match it.
We discover that it is in God that we live and move and have our
being.
Welcome to Love God Only, twinc, and welcome to our returnees,
Helen and Rita! Each person has a special story and a special
place. May this place be one of your special places.
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: twinc Date: August 17, 2019, 1:41 am
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[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1441.msg23749#msg23749
date=1566002895]
Here at Love God Only, twinc, we have people from a variety of
places. We have Kerry from Carlisle, Pennsylvania and I'm from
Great Falls, Montana. We all, over the years, give various
hints of who we are and where we are from.
I find it intriguing that you've listed where you are from in
your profile. I understand that you live in a special place and
it dominates you theological concerns.
I understand that you live in Wirral, twinc, between the Dee and
the Mersey. I understand that you're in a good place to live
and work in the United Kingdom. Thereabouts you can join the
Wirral Ramblers and take good walks with people who love nature.
I see there are walks you can take to Snowdonia, which is the
U.K.'s largest national park, the Yorkshire Dales which have
that feeling of mystery in British literature, the Lake
District, known by the great poets, and the Peak District, which
I understand has some difficult walks to do. These walks would
call to mind Thomas Traherne and his book, "Centuries".
Then you can finish a happy day of immersion in the great beauty
of nature through an invigorating walk by winding down at your
favorite pub, choosing the special pub grub offering for the day
and washing it down with a pint.
Then you ponder the great mystery that nature as the greatest
cathedral of God and that there is nothing human to match it.
We discover that it is in God that we live and move and have our
being.
Welcome to Love God Only, twinc, and welcome to our returnees,
Helen and Rita! Each person has a special story and a special
place. May this place be one of your special places.
[/quote]
used to belong to the Wirral Ramblers - done the walks - love
special places especially Paradise Lost = when all the
rugged/ragged ways of youth were ours to roam we lost the keys
to wonderland among the hills of home -we seek and seek and
cannot find those rustic gates we knew those red and green and
golden gates of gossamer and dew - where a robin came and looked
at us with eyes of glistening and a linnet sang the world's a
dream and every dream is true and the elf said hush and hummed a
tune that the breeze had taught the flowers - the bluebell
chimes of eternal time that sped our woodland hours[Noyes] -
twinc
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: HOLLAND Date: August 17, 2019, 7:52 am
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[quote author=twinc link=topic=1441.msg23750#msg23750
date=1566024117]
used to belong to the Wirral Ramblers - done the walks - love
special places especially Paradise Lost = when all the
rugged/ragged ways of youth were ours to roam we lost the keys
to wonderland among the hills of home -we seek and seek and
cannot find those rustic gates we knew those red and green and
golden gates of gossamer and dew - where a robin came and looked
at us with eyes of glistening and a linnet sang the world's a
dream and every dream is true and the elf said hush and hummed a
tune that the breeze had taught the flowers - the bluebell
chimes of eternal time that sped our woodland hours[Noyes] -
twinc
[/quote]
I had a suspicion that you were a Wirral Rambler given your
deep, heartfelt connection of God with nature, though you've
appeared to have not worked through the philosophical issues
involving that connection. We'll question you on that.
I agree that the rootedness of nature and Scripture are places
where we subsist, each in our own way.
I've never read Alfred Noyes. I've discovered he's an
interesting poet and I like his "A Loom Of Years":
HTML https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/a-loom-of-years/
A Loom Of Years - Poem by Alfred Noyes
In the light of the silent stars that shine on the struggling
sea,
In the weary cry of the wind and the whisper of flower and tree,
Under the breath of laughter, deep in the tide of tears,
I hear the Loom of the Weaver that weaves the Web of Years.
The leaves of the winter wither and sink in the forest mould
To colour the flowers of April with purple and white and gold:
Light and scent and music die and are born again
In the heart of a grey-haired woman who wakes in a world of
pain.
The hound, the fawn, and the hawk, and the doves that croon and
coo,
We are all one woof of the weaving and the one warp threads us
through,
One flying cloud on the shuttle that carries our hopes and fears
As it goes thro’ the Loom of the Weaver that weaves the Web of
Years.
The green uncrumpling fern and the rustling dewdrenched rose
Pass with our hearts to the Silence where the wings of music
close,
Pass and pass to the Timeless that never a moment mars,
Pass and pass to the Darkness that made the suns and stars.
Has the soul gone out in the Darkness? Is the dust sealed from
sight?
Ah, hush, for the woof of the ages returns thro’ the warp of the
night!
Never that shuttle loses one thread of our hopes and fears,
As it comes thro’ the Loom of the Weaver that weaves the Web of
Years.
O, woven in one wide Loom thro’ the throbbing weft of the whole,
One in spirit and flesh, one in body and soul,
Tho’ the leaf were alone in its falling, the bird in its hour to
die,
The heart in its muffled anguish, the sea in its mournful cry,
One with the flower of a day, one with the withered moon
One with the granite mountains that melt into the noon
One with the dream that triumphs beyond the light of the
spheres,
We come from the Loom of the Weaver that weaves the Web of
Years.
Alfred Noyes
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: twinc Date: August 17, 2019, 5:24 pm
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for the BritishAmerican bond you must read 'The Mayflower
returns' by Bliss Carmen - twinc
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: HOLLAND Date: August 19, 2019, 7:24 am
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[quote author=twinc link=topic=1441.msg23754#msg23754
date=1566080696]
for the BritishAmerican bond you must read 'The Mayflower
returns' by Bliss Carmen - twinc
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I found it on the web, twinc. It's a good poem. Here it is:
HTML https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/carman-farhorizons/carman-farhorizons-00-h.html#return
THE RETURN OF THE MAYFLOWER
I
Down the sparkling Channel,
Out of Plymouth Sound,
What gallant little craft is this
Making outward bound?
Who crowd along her taffrail
To look their last on home,
While the seas beneath her forefoot
Are trampled into foam,
And in the morning sunlight
Her last sail is unfurled?
She's the Mayflower out from Plymouth,
Bound for the New World.
What cargo does she carry,
And what port will she make?
She has a hundred souls on board
Would die for conscience' sake.
And she will come to anchor
On a far Western beach,
By God's grace, past the farthest bounds
That tyranny can reach.
No Argo ever carried,
No pilgrim ever planned,
A more sublime adventure
Than this exalted band.
They bear the flower of England,
To plant it over sea—
The holy seed of Runnymede
That men call Liberty.
And lo, that magic blossom
Shall flourish and increase,
To glad the souls of all mankind,
And fill the world with peace.
Warm are the Devon moorlands
In the September sun,
And over the dim unknown sea-rim
The Mayflower has gone.
II
Looming up the Channel,
Making Plymouth Sound,
What man-of-war is this that comes
Racing, victory bound?
Speeding as to battle,
On she comes amain,
Swift as an eagle's shadow
Across the summer plain.
In power and in beauty
Commanding on the seas,
She leads a stranger battle line—
What men, what ships are these?
Look, where she flies her colors—
The white and crimson bars,
The ensign of the Rights of Man,
The Glory of the Stars!
Back from the ports of promise
Beyond the Western sea,
These are the breed of Runnymede,
The Sons of Liberty.
To cheers that give her welcome
What answer will she make?
Hark to her thousand souls on board
Would die for freedom's sake!
To stay the ancient altars,
Where fire of justice burns,
For freedom still as God may will,
The Mayflower returns.
It's hard to imagine the sense of hope that many had in Europe
about the discovery of America. The new world represented for
many, a chance to get away from the problems of the old. But
now the world is becoming one and there is no chance for
escapism.
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: Justaname Date: August 20, 2019, 2:37 pm
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[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1441.msg23758#msg23758
date=1566217440]
I found it on the web, twinc. It's a good poem. Here it is:
HTML https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/carman-farhorizons/carman-farhorizons-00-h.html#return
THE RETURN OF THE MAYFLOWER
I
Down the sparkling Channel,
Out of Plymouth Sound,
What gallant little craft is this
Making outward bound?
Who crowd along her taffrail
To look their last on home,
While the seas beneath her forefoot
Are trampled into foam,
And in the morning sunlight
Her last sail is unfurled?
She's the Mayflower out from Plymouth,
Bound for the New World.
What cargo does she carry,
And what port will she make?
She has a hundred souls on board
Would die for conscience' sake.
And she will come to anchor
On a far Western beach,
By God's grace, past the farthest bounds
That tyranny can reach.
No Argo ever carried,
No pilgrim ever planned,
A more sublime adventure
Than this exalted band.
They bear the flower of England,
To plant it over sea—
The holy seed of Runnymede
That men call Liberty.
And lo, that magic blossom
Shall flourish and increase,
To glad the souls of all mankind,
And fill the world with peace.
Warm are the Devon moorlands
In the September sun,
And over the dim unknown sea-rim
The Mayflower has gone.
II
Looming up the Channel,
Making Plymouth Sound,
What man-of-war is this that comes
Racing, victory bound?
Speeding as to battle,
On she comes amain,
Swift as an eagle's shadow
Across the summer plain.
In power and in beauty
Commanding on the seas,
She leads a stranger battle line—
What men, what ships are these?
Look, where she flies her colors—
The white and crimson bars,
The ensign of the Rights of Man,
The Glory of the Stars!
Back from the ports of promise
Beyond the Western sea,
These are the breed of Runnymede,
The Sons of Liberty.
To cheers that give her welcome
What answer will she make?
Hark to her thousand souls on board
Would die for freedom's sake!
To stay the ancient altars,
Where fire of justice burns,
For freedom still as God may will,
The Mayflower returns.
It's hard to imagine the sense of hope that many had in Europe
about the discovery of America. The new world represented for
many, a chance to get away from the problems of the old. But
now the world is becoming one and there is no chance for
escapism.
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Great poem and great thoughts...enjoyed them.. :)
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: Justaname Date: August 20, 2019, 2:42 pm
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I wish I had a 'like' button here on Crome ...but I
don't....my finger itches to like posts at times.
Well finally I could get back on here today...for some
strange reason I haven't been able to for three days!!!
I wonder why. I just tried it a moment ago and
expected it not to work...but, here I am :D
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: Justaname Date: August 20, 2019, 2:48 pm
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I've walked the Yorkshire Dales and I've walked a lot in the
Peak District of Darbyshire...but never been to Wirral.
How are your legs twic...I doubt you are still rambling at
your age. I miss England. What is your now Twinc 86 or closer to
90 now!! It must be.
Dave is 81 now...and he still plays squash three times a
week....
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: HOLLAND Date: August 21, 2019, 10:31 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=1441.msg23763#msg23763
date=1566329829]
Great poem and great thoughts...enjoyed them.. :)
[/quote]
[quote author=Helen link=topic=1441.msg23764#msg23764
date=1566330178]
I wish I had a 'like' button here on Crome ...but I
don't....my finger itches to like posts at times.
Well finally I could get back on here today...for some
strange reason I haven't been able to for three days!!!
I wonder why. I just tried it a moment ago and
expected it not to work...but, here I am :D
[/quote][quote author=Helen link=topic=1441.msg23766#msg23766
date=1566330494]
I've walked the Yorkshire Dales and I've walked a lot in the
Peak District of Darbyshire...but never been to Wirral.
How are your legs twic...I doubt you are still rambling at
your age. I miss England. What is your now Twinc 86 or closer to
90 now!! It must be.
Dave is 81 now...and he still plays squash three times a
week....
[/quote]
I've always enjoyed a good walk too, Helen. I never realized
that you lived in the U.K. like twinc.
I find that we discover ourselves in our walks in nature. It is
in our moments of praise that we discover what is really
important, and, there is a great gladness to be found praising
God as we are surrounded by beauty. Those blessed moments
prepare us to praise God in the moments of ugliness and during
our sadness when we are inclined not to praise. In the depths
of sadness, we need the moments of joy to keep our balance.
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Re: Wirral Ramblers - A Good Walk Anyone?
By: HOLLAND Date: September 11, 2019, 5:50 pm
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I've learned, twinc, that there is a great walk on the hill
above Holyhead on Holy Island, Anglesey:
THE ISLE OF ANGLESEY COASTAL PATH
HTML https://www.anglesey-hidden-gem.com/holyhead.html
The Coastal Path Starts and Finishes on Holy Island at the
archway entrance of St Cybi Church in the town centre.
The highlights along the Coastal Path around Holyhead are the
Breakwater Country Park, the North Stack Fog Signal Station, the
South Stack & Lighthouse, Trearddur Bay, Rhoscolyn Beach, Silver
Bay Beach, the Holyhead Breakwater and the Rocky Coast.
You could finish the day in a pub called THE HOLLAND INN:
HTML https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g186443-d3756292-Reviews-Holland_Inn-Holyhead_Anglesey_North_Wales_Wales.html
I understand that the pub has karaoke and pub games. It's a
cash only place. I suspect that it would be a mellow place to
get a pint. It would be good to get outdoors again, good chap,
and have a good time even though you're no longer with the
Wirral Ramblers.
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