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The Stage ?
By: twinc Date: August 3, 2019, 3:46 pm
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all the world's a stage and men and women merely players with
their exits and entrances and one person in his life plays many
parts for this vault of heaven under which we move is but a
magic lantern this to prove - the sun ls the flame the world
the lamp and we the comic figures that dance and jig and move -
twinc
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Re: The Stage ?
By: HOLLAND Date: August 5, 2019, 6:48 am
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[quote author=twinc link=topic=1432.msg23586#msg23586
date=1564865174]
all the world's a stage and men and women merely players with
their exits and entrances and one person in his life plays many
parts for this vault of heaven under which we move is but a
magic lantern this to prove - the sun ls the flame the world
the lamp and we the comic figures that dance and jig and move -
twinc
[/quote]
But if you are correct in your assertion that we lack freewill,
twinc, isn't it more correct to say that we are not players but
rather puppets under the divine mind? A puppet has no life,
only it's manipulator does.
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Re: The Stage ?
By: twinc Date: August 5, 2019, 6:55 am
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[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1432.msg23610#msg23610
date=1565005680]
But if you are correct in your assertion that we lack freewill,
twinc, isn't it more correct to say that we are not players but
rather puppets under the divine mind? A puppet has no life,
only it's manipulator does.
[/quote]
that is correct - twinc
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Re: The Stage ?
By: Kerry Date: August 5, 2019, 7:09 am
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[quote author=twinc link=topic=1432.msg23612#msg23612
date=1565006114]
that is correct - twinc
[/quote]What a depressing view. You must have a low opinion of
what the image and likeness of God is capable of being.
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Re: The Stage ?
By: Justaname Date: August 5, 2019, 9:59 am
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Agree with Kerry, and I disagree with you Jim...who wrote that
in the OP... it is obviously a 'quote' and obviously written by
an unbeliever. Puppets do not have a choice...they are
manipulated. They appear as if they have life, but they do not.
Is that how you see yourself and your life Jim..?
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Re: The Stage ?
By: Kerry Date: August 5, 2019, 11:16 am
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If there is no free will and people are puppets, why would God
tell Israel this:
Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day
against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing
and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed
may live:
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Re: The Stage ?
By: twinc Date: August 5, 2019, 1:13 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1432.msg23619#msg23619
date=1565021779]
If there is no free will and people are puppets, why would God
tell Israel this:
Deuteronomy 30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day
against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing
and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed
may live:
[/quote]
lf God really said that and they heard it and believed it then
there was no choice but to obey - twinc
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Re: The Stage ?
By: Kerry Date: August 5, 2019, 1:24 pm
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[quote author=twinc link=topic=1432.msg23620#msg23620
date=1565028836]
lf God really said that and they heard it and believed it then
there was no choice but to obey - twinc
[/quote]Then God was joking when He told them to choose? Think
of what you're saying!
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Re: The Stage ?
By: twinc Date: August 5, 2019, 1:29 pm
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[quote author=Helen link=topic=1432.msg23618#msg23618
date=1565017149]
Agree with Kerry, and I disagree with you Jim...who wrote that
in the OP... it is obviously a 'quote' and obviously written by
an unbeliever. Puppets do not have a choice...they are
manipulated. They appear as if they have life, but they do not.
Is that how you see yourself and your life Jim..?
[/quote]
I see myself and others a lot like Paul saw himself[Rmns 7 and
8] twinc
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Re: The Stage ?
By: twinc Date: August 5, 2019, 1:48 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1432.msg23621#msg23621
date=1565029451]
Then God was joking when He told them to choose? Think of what
you're saying!
[/quote]
here we have an insight into the whole human tragedy of human
relationship with his God perpetuated by the know all and know
betters than even God - our Muslim brothers carry it to an
extreme but as Christians we must learn to gently accept it as
submission imho - twinc
we were taught at the very beginning that as long as Israel
submitted to God and relied entirely on Him she prospered but
lost when she started to rely on her own strength and wisdom -
twinc
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