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       A sad symbol or strange coincidence
       By: bənê hāʼĕlōhîm 
       Date: October 27, 2012, 8:12 pm
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       [center]Fall[/center]
       [center]Genesis 3:7
       King James Version (KJV)
       7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they
       were naked; and they sewed fig [size=14pt]leaves together, and
       made themselves aprons.[/size][/center]
       I've never understood the beauty of fall... The colors are
       brilliant but the time of the season is death... Summer is gone,
       Cold winter's upon us... We are in that time of transition... In
       this season all the beautiful green lush grass, and green
       leaves, begin to turn in color and die... The leaf dies and
       FALLS to earth... Ever think about it... It isn't until that
       moment that the leaf hits the ground that it in its physical
       form touches earth?? We read about the fall of Adam and Eve to
       earth... I see the symbol of the leafs fall that of mans fall,
       to earth...
       Symbolically I see the leaves of the fig tree Adam and Eve used,
       were the FIRST actual death we read about in the scripture, I
       think it can be said, the first sacrifice was the leafs that
       were plucked and killed to cover the shame of Adam and Eve
       because they had fell... Once the leaves were pulled from there
       LIFE support I would imagine they started to change color maybe
       even turning the same maroon red we see most common during the
       season of
       [center]FALL...[/center]
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       Re: A sad symbol or strange coincidence
       By: Leaf Date: October 27, 2012, 8:26 pm
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       I am a leaf
       now on the ground
       as a carpet
       softening the ground
       as I go back
       back into the ground
       back into the tree
       that gave me, a leaf, life.
       Just one part of a piece of prose I wrote many years ago called
       Tree of Life.
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       Re: A sad symbol or strange coincidence
       By: Leaf Date: October 27, 2012, 8:31 pm
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       [quote]
       Symbolically I see the leaves of the fig tree Adam and Eve used,
       were the FIRST actual death we read about in the
       scripture[/quote]That's a great connection you made there! Most
       think of animals dying in the story not the leaves.
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       Re: A sad symbol or strange coincidence
       By: bənê hāʼĕlōhîm 
       Date: October 27, 2012, 9:06 pm
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       [quote author=Leaf link=topic=139.msg1245#msg1245
       date=1351387892]
       Most think of animals dying in the story not the leaves.
       [/quote]
       I wonder why??? I didn't see anything about animals dying in the
       story I read...
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       Re: A sad symbol or strange coincidence
       By: Leaf Date: October 27, 2012, 9:09 pm
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       [quote]I wonder why??? I didn't see anything about animals dying
       in the story I read...[/quote]
       LOL, neither did I!!!
       To think of animals dying is, to me, an assumption. An
       assumption based on the animal skin we wear was clothing rather
       than skin.
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       Re: A sad symbol or strange coincidence
       By: Kerry Date: October 27, 2012, 10:21 pm
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       Keep going with that train of thought, George.   The "curse" was
       also on the vegetation, that it would becomes thorns and
       thistles.
       Moses tells us "man is a tree of the field."     Jesus talked
       about trees.
       I also put some significance on the number 66 (not 666) which
       shows up in:
       Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive
       with man, for that he also is flesh yet his days <66>  shall be
       an hundred and twenty years.
       Here is another 66 -- but here it's not leaves being talked
       about but other vegetation.
       Psalm 83:13 O my God, make them like a wheel <galgal> ; as the
       stubble before the wind.
       14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the
       mountains on fire;
       15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with
       thy storm.
       It is the wheel of life and death to me.   The tree survives if
       it is worth saving, but its leaves come and go.     Still
       Ezekiel does talk about leaves which never fade in chapter 47. .
       . .
       The number 66 curiously enough shows up first on the sixth day:
       Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and,
       behold <66>, it was very good. And the evening and the morning
       were the sixth day.
       It was up to Adam and Eve what to do after that.  It appears to
       me they chose to stay at 66 and we're still spinning like wheels
       and parts of us keep fading like leaves which then reappear
       again.     So we can see the leaf  as a symbol of death and
       also a sign of renewal and healing.
       Genesis 8:22 While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest,
       and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night
       shall not cease.
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       Re: A sad symbol or strange coincidence
       By: b&amp;#601;nê h&amp;#257;&amp;#700;&amp;#277;l&amp;#333;hîm 
       Date: November 16, 2012, 3:06 pm
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       [center]Isaiah 64:6
       King James Version (KJV)
       6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our
       righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a
       leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us
       away.[/center]
       I read this verse the other day and thought about this post...
       It seem fitting to the subject...
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       Re: A sad symbol or strange coincidence
       By: Kerry Date: November 17, 2012, 2:34 am
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       [quote author=George M. C. Jr. link=topic=139.msg1888#msg1888
       date=1353099988]
       [center]Isaiah 64:6
       King James Version (KJV)
       6 But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our
       righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a
       leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us
       away.[/center]
       I read this verse the other day and thought about this post...
       It seem fitting to the subject...[/quote]Chaff is also said to
       be carried away by the wind.
       Job 21:18  They are as stubble before the wind, and as chaff
       that the storm carrieth away.
       Psalm 1:4  The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which
       the wind driveth away.
       
       Psalm 35:5  Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the
       angel of the LORD chase them.
       Isaiah 17:13  The nations shall rush like the rushing of many
       waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off,
       and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the
       wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.
       Daniel 2:35  Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver,
       and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the
       chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them
       away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote
       the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
       Then we read about the leaves which never fade, too.    It may
       interest you to know that "ruach" can be translated as "wind."
       Thus Genesis 1:2 could read:
       Genesis 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and
       darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Wind of God
       moved upon the face of the waters.
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