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#Post#: 21114--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: paralambano
Date: January 5, 2019, 3:50 pm
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Meshak - ^
There's a difference between an observation and an assumption.
An observation is based on data. What data do you have to show
that we here believe that Jesus is a man now? If none, then you
have made an assumption. Why start a thread with assuming things
when as Heartsong said, you can just ask what we believe. Don't
strawman people by saying what they believe just to try to knock
it down. Your assumptions could be wrong.
para . . . .
#Post#: 21115--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: meshak
Date: January 5, 2019, 6:37 pm
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--- Quote from: paralambano link ---
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> Meshak - ^
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> There's a difference between an observation and an assumption.
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You follow world's standard to measure things. I follow the HS
measure for spiritual things..
good day.
#Post#: 21119--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: Kerry
Date: January 6, 2019, 12:39 am
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--- Quote from: Heartsong link ---
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> No he is not a man now. He is not flesh and blood as he was
while on earth. 1Cor. 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is
raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a
spiritual body.
>
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I would hope most Christians believe this. If his body is the
same as it was before his resurrection, what would be the
point? We can hope too to have spiritual bodies that exist in
harmony with spirit instead of the natural bodies we have now
that get sick and make demands on us.
#Post#: 21125--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: paralambano
Date: January 6, 2019, 8:01 am
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Meshak -
Your Holy Spirit says "Come, let us reason together".
You need a course in logic.
para . . . .
#Post#: 21126--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: meshak
Date: January 6, 2019, 12:37 pm
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--- Quote from: paralambano link ---
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> Meshak -
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> Your Holy Spirit says "Come, let us reason together".
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> You need a course in logic.
>
>
> para . . . .
>
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I don't take advice from anyone I cannot agree with.
#Post#: 21127--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: paralambano
Date: January 6, 2019, 4:17 pm
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Meshak -
You've given a false witness here of your Holy Spirit by
claiming that we believed that Jesus is a man now. No one here
believes that your false claim is from God. You ought to
apologize to God and man for that.
You go against the Holy Spirit's call to be reasonable by saying
you don't agree with my advice to learn about logic, the basis
of reasoning. You'll have an anti-witness here until you learn
how to be reasonable as God wants you to be. He is Logos. John
called God Logos because to the Greeks and believers in his day
all understood Logos to be Reason. So should you learn this.
para . . . .
#Post#: 21129--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: meshak
Date: January 7, 2019, 1:54 am
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--- Quote from: paralambano link ---
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> Meshak -
>
> You've given a false witness here of your Holy Spirit by
claiming that we believed that Jesus is a man now. No one here
believes that your false claim is from God. You ought to
apologize to God and man for that.
>
> You go against the Holy Spirit's call to be reasonable by
saying you don't agree with my advice to learn about logic, the
basis of reasoning. You'll have an anti-witness here until you
learn how to be reasonable as God wants you to be. He is Logos.
John called God Logos because to the Greeks and believers in his
day all understood Logos to be Reason. So should you learn this.
>
>
>
> para . . . .
>
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Sorry,
I stated most of you.
You need to read carefully before making accusation.
You is not just you in English.
#Post#: 21130--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: paralambano
Date: January 7, 2019, 11:12 am
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Meshak -
Which "most of you" do you mean here? Three people replied that
they believe Jesus is a spirit now. These three are regular
posters and all have said that they believe that Jesus is a
spirit now when you said most of you believe Jesus is a man now.
You haven't given your proof or data to back up your "most of
you" claim and so I have no respect for the spirit you claim to
have since by tone, it's an accusatory one that speaks
falsehood. If you're grabbing your thread intros from other
sites to post here, you need to tell us so. We're pretty good
bull-crap detectors here and you have an off-putting bull-crap
intro to this thread. As I said, you have an anti-witness until
you change your approach.
You had written that you don't agree with my claim that you need
to learn more about logic. You tell me that I measure by the
standard of the world. I'll put my standard up against yours any
day since your standard rejects John's Logos. You need to
reconsider.
para . . . .
#Post#: 21133--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: meshak
Date: January 7, 2019, 1:03 pm
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--- Quote from: paralambano link ---
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> Meshak -
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> Which "most of you" do you mean here?
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Mainstreamers in general which is trinity believers.
#Post#: 21134--------------------------------------------------
Re: Is Jesus a Man or Spirit now?
DIR By: guest6
Date: January 7, 2019, 3:09 pm
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--- Quote from: meshak link ---
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> Mainstreamers in general which is trinity believers.
>
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Just because someone believes in the trinity doesn't mean that
they believe that Jesus is a man now. It's best to ask someone
what they believe before making assumptions. Whatever people are
saying on other forums about this topic has nothing to do with
what those of us here believe so saying that "It seems that most
of you believe He is a Man now" is an assumption that you're
making about us here and it is not accurate as you can see by
our replies. So you were wrong about that, weren't you?
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