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The true story of AIDS
By: KerimF Date: December 17, 2018, 2:38 am
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Instead of telling you the hidden story of AIDS, I will let you
discover it by answering a few questions unless you have no idea
about general medicine and technology.
This is the first one:
Why, in early years, did transplanting a live organ fail soon
after the success of its operation?
Good luck :D
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: paralambano Date: December 17, 2018, 10:11 am
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Beats me, Kerim. I'm not a Dr. much less a musician. Is there a
pizza waiting for correct answers :-[?
Can I guess? It wasn't plugged in?
para . . . .
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: KerimF Date: December 17, 2018, 10:47 am
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[quote author=paralambano link=topic=1375.msg20940#msg20940
date=1545063060]
Beats me, Kerim. I'm not a Dr. much less a musician. Is there a
pizza waiting for correct answers :-[?
Can I guess? It wasn't plugged in?
para . . . .
[/quote]
No, there is a pizza for wrong answers :P because the right
answer could be found on the internet ::)
For instance, my father died in 1958 (I was about 9) because, at
that time, it wasn't possible to transplant a kidney, he needed,
anywhere in the world.
Once, in the 70's, I heard on TV an American surgeon, specialist
in transplanting, who was explaining why such operations fail
soon after the patient recovery. He added that, for this reason,
a decision was taken by all doctors (mainly in USA) to stop such
kind of operation till... a solution will be found. This is why
I asked my first question. (Hint: Obviously the answer is
related, in a way, to AIDS :D )
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: paralambano Date: December 17, 2018, 11:17 am
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Kerim - ^
I wouldn't dare cheat on you with the internet . . . .
except for pizza.
Hmmm . . . . let me guess . . . . the Three Stooges were
operating? Dracula got to the blood bank? Infection? Wrong
blood type?
Make mine Dr. Oetker's four cheeses, please. It's a little one
but . . . . yum!
para . . . .
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: Kerry Date: December 17, 2018, 12:46 pm
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[quote author=KerimF link=topic=1375.msg20939#msg20939
date=1545035922]
Instead of telling you the hidden story of AIDS, I will let you
discover it by answering a few questions unless you have no idea
about general medicine and technology.
This is the first one:
Why, in early years, did transplanting a live organ fail soon
after the success of its operation?
Good luck :D
[/quote]The body rejected the transplant when the immune system
attacked the organ as foreign.
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: KerimF Date: December 17, 2018, 6:12 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1375.msg20945#msg20945
date=1545072383]
The body rejected the transplant when the immune system attacked
the organ as foreign.
[/quote]
Excellent! This is exactly what the professional surgeon said
when I heard him, on TV, in mid 70's.
The second question is now obvious, I guess ;)
What sort of solution was this doctor expecting to be found by
the researchers in advanced medical centres?
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: Kerry Date: December 17, 2018, 7:22 pm
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[quote author=KerimF link=topic=1375.msg20956#msg20956
date=1545091929]
Excellent! This is exactly what the professional surgeon said
when I heard him, on TV, in mid 70's.
The second question is now obvious, I guess ;)
What sort of solution was this doctor expecting to be found by
the researchers in advanced medical centres?
[/quote]I don't know the specifics; but I know one solution
involved tricking the immune system into accepting the organ and
not rejecting it as foreign.
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: KerimF Date: December 18, 2018, 7:27 am
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1375.msg20957#msg20957
date=1545096174]
I don't know the specifics; but I know one solution involved
tricking the immune system into accepting the organ and not
rejecting it as foreign.
[/quote]
You are again totally right. In other words, researchers had to
find a way to control the system immunity and let it accept
foreign intruders. As we know, the cells in blood, known as the
White cells, form the front defence of one's body. As long these
cells exist and are active, any foreign cells are in danger of
being attacked and destroyed.
Now, here is another coincidence, AIDS infection (loss of body's
immunity) was revealed, all of a sudden and worldwide (even in
Aleppo, China and Russia ;) ), a few years after the
transplanting live organs started to save people who needed such
organs.
Only the very few surgeons in the world, working in this field,
know what I am talking about; the great medical discovery of
controlling the body's immunity (that is how to halt/paralyse it
and how to revive it later as well) by which their patients had
the chance to return to their normal life after being operated.
But these doctors are humans and have families and friends
(other than themselves) to take care of. They are wise enough to
know that they are real powerless in front of the billions of
dollars that were invested (till our days) to hide this
discovery. They just use its technique before and after every
operation. And these doctors and their patients are happy.
But this is just the beginning of the story.
By the way, 20 years ago, I wrote, in Arabic, a short medical
scientific article about it. It was so convincing that a local
journalist asked me the permission to print it on his newspaper.
I didn't object. But, he came back, after about a week, to tell
me that it was too late to reveal such a very serious truth. His
boss told him that the religious leaders in all sects (including
the Christian ones) in the world (also in Syria) have also
adopted already, with a great joy, the international sexual
story of AIDS as being a clear sign of the great God's Wrath
(the god as seen by a religion). He, therefore, apologized for
not printing it, but thanks me to give him the chance to know
the true story behind one of the greatest worldwide propaganda,
also the reasons for which it had to be hidden by all high
classes (and their actors) around the world.
If you prefer to stop here, it is okay for me.
(Fortunately, this forum is too small to scare anyone or any
side in the world that profits, directly or indirectly, from
AIDS propaganda).
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: guest6 Date: December 18, 2018, 2:20 pm
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Molecular biologist Judy Anne Mikovits was part of a scientific
team that discovered xenotropic murine leukemia virus (XMRV) in
many of the study subjects with cancer, motor-neuron disorders
and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS).
In 2009, the team published this study, which understandably got
very controversial. The team concluded that the XMRV retrovirus
came from mice. This was probably caused by contaminated
vaccines.
In October 2011, Mikovits was fired and subsequently arrested on
18 November, because she wouldn’t admit that her 2009 paper was
a fraud for manipulation of data and theft (of her own
notebooks).
The criminal charges against her were dismissed.
The paper was retracted 23 December 2011, with the excuse that
the mouse retroviruses they found weren’t in the human blood,
but were contaminants (which is unlikely):
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judy_Mikovits
The following interview with Judy Mikovits is a good summary of
what she has to say (12:15).
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhZETbXCqCM
Following is a transcript of an interview of Judy Mikovits by
Wendy Myers.
They found retroviruses, similar to HIV, in patients with
chronic fatigue Syndrome, which must have come in their
bloodstream by vaccines.
A lot of diseases are caused by these mouse retroviruses,
including AIDS and cancer.
Quote
In 2009, we published a paper showing retroviruses, viruses
similar to HIV, were being isolated. We isolated them from
patients with the disease also from their family members, also
from people with cancer and autism.
And so these retroviruses now, HIV/AIDS-like viruses, are
causing even worse than HIV/AIDS. They're causing these diseases
which destroy your immune system and your brain, and the worst
part about it is you don't die. You simply suffer for decades
with no brain, in horrible pain, can't sleep, can't think, can't
work. And the government had basically been calling these people
crazy, because you look fine. You look pretty like you and me
sitting here. And everybody says, "Oh, she can't be sick.”
(...)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we wrote the book Plague. Kent Heckenlively
is a former attorney, and he had an injured daughter, a severely
vaccineinjured daughter, in one of our family studies isolating
these HIV/AIDSlike viruses. Well, my colleagues from HIV and the
National Cancer Institute were all working with us at the
Whittemore Peterson Institute, and they were finding a much
bigger incidence of these viruses. And they're mouse viruses, so
they're related to mice. They're mice endogenous retroviruses
that have jumped into people, and that's how they cause disease.
The HIV-like virus came from monkeys into people.
And one of my colleagues from HIV wrote a paper in January of
2011 and said, "The most likely way that mouse viruses got into
human is vaccines and biological therapies." All of our
biological therapies essentially since the early '90s or mid
'80s are biological therapies that now we understood from my
work and from his commentary paper were most likely entering
humans from not only vaccines but our biological cancer
therapies, because they're all made in mice.
(...)
So chronic fatigue syndrome is really a big closet disease. It's
a shameful stigma name because in America, you can't be tired.
And they do the same thing, blame the victim, and just say
you're crazy, and oh, suck it up and get up and go work. And
when these devastating viruses hit your brain, you're literally
destroyed. So what our book does is walk through my arrest, my
jailing. So it opens with my arrest. And so I get held in jail
for five days without seeing a lawyer, with all of my
constitutional-
On a fake charge without a warrant, without anything. I was
called a fugitive from justice, but you can be a fugitive if
there's no crime.
(…)
The truth is essentially every vaccine is contaminated and/or
they're making them out of backbones of retroviruses. And the
sad truth is that the retroviruses stay in your genome for
generations, and the murine leukemia, the gammaretroviruses from
mice, can infect stem cells. So generations, grandma can have
MECFS, and child can get it from grandma, inherit the sequence,
and then the vaccines amplify it because there are many, many
more viruses in there. Because the retroviruses, you don't have
to have the particle, you just have the sequence. So anywhere
there is animal cell line or cellular material, the sequence is
only 8000 base pairs. It's called a provirus. And the provirus
needs your cells in order to make a particle and be infectious
and transmissible, and that's a really important part. But we're
injuring literally thousands, tens of thousands, millions of
base pairs of DNA in every single vaccine containing cow
retroviruses, mouse retroviruses, pig retroviruses. And in fact,
if you look at the CDC excipient list for the RotaTeq, the
RotaTeq vaccine. They list two pig retroviruses in there, and
they say, "Oh, but they don't do anything to humans." By
definition, if you inject an animal retrovirus in a human, and
it is expressed, it will hurt you.
(...)
Well, it's interesting, because we all have retroviruses that
are immune system has crippled. They're called endogenous
retroviruses, so they're not infectious and transmissible. And
so meaning they're just silenced, and your immune system has
kept them silent. And you have to keep them silent. So really it
becomes a big conundrum. You don't want to test and say, "Do I
have a retrovirus?" We know that you have lots of retroviruses,
and there are pieces and parts and components of those
retroviruses in every vaccine. And what we've learned now is you
don't have to have an infectious retrovirus, just the
components, just the pieces and parts, just the envelope gene,
and the glyphosate in vaccines, or the mercury, or the aluminum
that actually cripple the parts of the immune system that keep
them silent. So it's literally a time bomb because we all have
retroviruses, but mine are silent. Mine aren't turned on,
because I'm 60 years old, and most 60-year-olds only got two
vaccines. So it's not just a vaccine, it's the shear numbers of
these things. And it's not just the components and the
retroviral elements in the vaccines, it's the mercury. Because
every time you get one, it's like throwing gasoline on a fire.
So the kids get sicker and sicker and sicker.
Mikovits also discovered that her superiors were committing
fraud.
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Yes. And I also uncovered that my supervisors were
misappropriating federal funds, and they were also selling al
diagnostic test that hadn't been properly validated for the
family of viruses. And so I discovered this huge criminal ring
surrounding the University of Nevada, Harry Reid, Harvey
Whittemore. And basically, they were using this discovery.
Harvey Whittemore had been embezzling money from his business
partners, and they caught him. And they were threatening to kill
him
And he had lied to the FBI about a election fraud with regard to
Harry Reid, so Harry Reid wasn't actually legally elected. And
they were paying people basically to donate to his campaign. So
lots of other things going on there. And I had discovered this.
In late August and early September, I discovered the scientific
fraud and the misappropriation of federal funds by actually the
first author on our paper, who was basically taking the money
out of the research lab and putting it in the company, which is
a big, big no-no, and not doing his job. And he was being paid
for it. And so they were taking our data and using it.
AIDS couldn’t have been caused by HIV.
Quote
So the hope, and that's why we put the story in the book about
Magic Johnson, because my PhD thesis, the dogma at the time I
was doing my research, was that all our therapies in HIV were
made towards the T-cell. And it was let yourself get sicker and
sicker and don't use these dangerous drugs, because they're too
dangerous, and they'll kill you.
Well, what my research showed we knew only one in 10,000 T-cells
was infected. And I said something else is the orchestrator. So
the orchestrator of the disease turned out to be the macrophage,
the brain microglia, and what's the biggest damage from
aluminum? The brain microglia, the macrophages all over your
body. You have different microglia, different macrophage subsets
that do different specialized things. Like fatty liver is our
microglia in our liver, the Kupffer cells getting sick. And
that's all the toxins, all the poisons, things like that.
Mikovits claims that Suramin is a cure for autism, but Bayern
took it away from the kids.
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Well, as natural products. So you can use teas. You can use
herbs. You can use 100-year old Bayer drug called suramin,
S-U-R-A-M-I-N, and that drug is 100-year-old drug, and we know
how to use it safely. And so an investigator, and I won't use
his name, in San Diego, did a small clinical trial in autism
with suramin used properly.
We used to do a lot of research in the early '80s. It was one of
our first HIV drugs. We pulled everything off the shelf that
made sense that might work. And so suramin actually was curative
for autism. And Bayer, the drug company, took it away from the
kids. You cannot get it. It can heal these kids like Kent
Heckenlively's daughter who hasn't spoke a word and is
desperately I'll. She looks like an AIDS patient, because that's
what she is. And he can't get the drug. And so this just
happened in the last year. So our book is revealing when you
cure a disease, you know what caused it.
And so suramin was actually the reason why we didn't use it in
HIV is what did it work best on? Oh, the gammaretroviruses from
mice. The retroviruses that we found from mice. And so HIV is a
different family of viruses, so the suramin drug worked best on
the family of viruses we isolated and discovered associated with
all of these diseases.
HTML https://zl8r4yljp7281pio28kcrwnb-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Judy-Mikovits-Podcast-Transcript.pdf
Here’s a longer interview with Judy Mikovits (1:08:25).
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmzWq6Ej6Os
Following is the retracted 2009 study.
Of the 101 test subjects with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS)
that were analysed, 68 (67%) contained XMRV.
XMRV was only found in the blood of 8 out of 218 (3.7%) healthy
people.
They verified that it was highly improbable that they had
detected a laboratory contaminant.
The XMRV sequences were more than 99% similar to those
previously reported for strains of XMRV in prostate cancer
tumours.
The XMRV sequences were very similar to mouse strains.
After infecting T and B cells with XMRV, it was found that the
cells of the CFS patients reacted differently to the XMRV than
the (blood of) healthy individuals.
These results make it more probable that the immune response of
the CFS patients to XMRV is different than for healthy people.
J.A. Mikovits et al. – Detection of an Infectious Retrovirus,
XMRV, in Blood Cells of Patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
(2009):
HTML https://www.researchgate.net/publication/49702559_Detection_of_an_infectious_retrovirus_XMRV_in_blood_cells_of_patients_with_chronic_fatigue_syndrome
Following is a later 2010 article in which Mikovits defends the
earlier 2009 study.
They detected XMRV in more than 75% of 101 patients with CFS by
5 different methods.
It is simply not possible that the blood samples used were
contaminated with mouse retroviruses as the WPI and NCI labs
where the analysis with PCR was done had never worked with mouse
tissues.
J.A. Mikovits et al. – Detection of an Infectious Retrovirus,
XMRV, in Blood Cells of Patients with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
(2010):
HTML https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3073172/
In 2014, Mikovits co-authored, "Plague: One Scientist’s Intrepid
Search for the Truth about Human Retroviruses and Chronic
Fatigue Syndrome" with Kent Heckenlively.
Following is an article written by Heckenlively to promote the
book,
In 2012, a group headed by Ian Lipkin came to the conclusion
that there is no association between XMRV and patients with
chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS).
In a strange twist, they excluded patients with the following
conditions: 1) HIV virus; 2) Hepatitis B or C virus; 3)
Treponema pallidium (tapeworm); 4) B. burgdorfieri (Lyme disease
spirochete); 5) Illness associated with fatigue; 6) Abnormal
serum characteristics; 7; Abnormal thyroid functions.
There were no good objective reasons to exclude these “kind” of
people. Micro-biologist Gerwyn Morris explained that this is
like "looking for HIV, but excluding homosexual males, IV drug
users, and those who'd received a blood transfusion". So they
intentionally manipulated the study...
In 2013, Lipkin said in a public conference call with CDC that
they found retroviruses in 85% of the sample pools but didn’t
know whether this 85% is “clinically significant or not”.
This manipulated study was used to do no follow-up research on
the findings of Mikovits and her team of scientists:
HTML http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/plague-book-america-must-read
(archived here:
HTML http://archive.is/WDsxv)
For more information on vaccines:
HTML https://www.lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1346
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Re: The true story of AIDS
By: KerimF Date: December 18, 2018, 9:34 pm
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[quote author=Heartsong link=topic=1375.msg20968#msg20968
date=1545164410]
Molecular biologist Judy Anne Mikovits was part of a scientific
team that discovered xenotropic murine leukemia virus (XMRV) in
many of the study subjects with cancer, motor-neuron disorders
and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS).
In 2009, the team published this study, which understandably got
very controversial. The team concluded that the XMRV retrovirus
came from mice. This was probably caused by contaminated
vaccines.
....
....
[/quote]
I was on the street when the first time I read about AIDS (I am
not sure in which year; likely between 1985 and 1990). Thousands
of sheets were posted all around the city. On each post, there
was a list about how AIDS can spread from one person to another.
Actually, it was a list of all possible acts related to sex;
even the mouth-to-mouth kiss was included!
Unfortunately, the discovered technique, by which surgeons can
paralyse the body's immunity of their patients then revive it
after operation, became the best tool for perfect crimes against
individuals, though it was also used to kill many millions
without leaving behind any criminal trace. I will be back to
this point after telling you how I saved the life of a girl,
from Nigeria, who contacted me on the internet asking me a
charity/donation (about 16 years ago). While we were talking
(via Yahoo Messenger at that time) about life's difficulties in
general, I had the idea to ask her if she heard of AIDS.
She: "Of course I heard of AIDS, in my city, hundreds die every
day because of it".
I: "I bet that foreign doctors were sent to protect the people
in your city from dying because of AIDS".
She: "Oh you are right. But how did you know it?! And I am one
among the assistants who were chosen to help these doctors".
I: "I will tell you something that you won't hear from anyone
else. So it will be up to you to believe me or not. These
doctors were sent to kill not to cure. AIDS has nothing to do
with sex and its so-called infection is mostly created
artificially in one's body. So if you like to save your life,
try your best not to let any doctor, local or foreigner, examine
your blood under any pretext, till you feel that the AIDS crisis
is somehow ended in your city".
She: "Yes, this is the first time I hear this about AIDS but
perhaps you are right".
Two years later, I got an email from her to tell me that she
followed my advice and those who believed her warning are also
alive. But she also lost many members of her family and friends
who used insisting that she was imagining things.
Soon later, I heard that more than 10 million Africans got AIDS
and died.
I recall someone, likely a white guy living somewhere in the
West, telling me: "Are you Black?! If you are White, you should
be glad that, by AIDS, many millions of Africans could be killed
continuously and without any trace of criminality". I chose not
to reply and ended the conversation.
The second part of the story tells us how the world's people
were convinced, by scientific tools, that it is possible for a
healthy person to host AIDS virus. Therefore this person may
transfer it to some others and let them lose their immunity
system.
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