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The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: KerimF Date: December 1, 2018, 6:12 am
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The Yellow Jackets (in Paris for example) are simply another
face of the Moderate Rebels and the White Helmets. They are
certainly not poor. They just serve (with or without the
knowledge of most of them) some top men on power while claiming
they support the French people. In fact, this is an old known
trick that attracts the young people (new comers in life) who
believe that revolutions or alike are real (as in movies and
series).
As planned, spreading chaos is the first step before launching
the serious Terror against civilians (its so-called terrorist
psychopaths are now equipped by the most advanced technologies;
very efficient explosives, various weapons used by armies on the
ground and private communications sets to contact their
headquarters via satellites).
So the job of the Yellow Jackets is just one of the many
preparations for the coming serious destruction of most parts in
Europe which is scheduled to start in about two years (unless a
miracle will happen). Even now, I can say that I will not be
surprised seeing even the Eiffel Tower (France’s pride) lying on
the ground anytime in the coming decade (20’s).
It doesn't matter if people believe it or not; this is simply
the World Terror War which was thought by geniuses (surely not
by psychopaths) more than a century ago (a few decades before
WW1). For this long World Terror War, the new Saudi (of Al-Qaeda
Sharia) was created soon after WW1. And soon after WW2, the new
Israel was installed to be the military front base of the WTW
headquarters. Then, soon after the big victory of Israel in 1973
(when the Suez Canal was opened and all Palestinian military
bases were removed from the south of Syria), another Islamic
country was created; the new Iran. But, for many reasons (their
list is rather long), these geniuses had to launch their WTW by
sacrificing, first and with a cold blood, many thousands of
civilians in the greatest nation, America. Since then, random
civilians (then their national troops) are supposed to be the
main victims in every country to be destroyed by the modern
unbeatable terrorists; supported by Moderate Rebels, the White
Helmets, the Yellow Jackets... and many others to come.
Let us not forget that all systems, with no exceptions, tell
their people that the “War on Terror” will likely last for many
decades. I think its top beneficiaries will start to end it when
the death toll exceeds 1 billion in the least (though 1 billion
is not a big number in comparison of the world population).
Will the coming terror in Europe be called “the European Spring”
or there will be a more exciting one?
Meanwhile let us watch the Moderate Yellow Jackets how they also
ask for freedom and democracy; much like the Moderate Rebels and
their White Helmets did in Syria ;)
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: Kerry Date: December 1, 2018, 4:54 pm
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[quote author=KerimF link=topic=1369.msg20737#msg20737
date=1543666359]
The Yellow Jackets (in Paris for example) are simply another
face of the Moderate Rebels and the White Helmets. They are
certainly not poor. They just serve (with or without the
knowledge of most of them) some top men on power while claiming
they support the French people. In fact, this is an old known
trick that attracts the young people (new comers in life) who
believe that revolutions or alike are real (as in movies and
series).
As planned, spreading chaos is the first step before launching
the serious Terror against civilians (its so-called terrorist
psychopaths are now equipped by the most advanced technologies;
very efficient explosives, various weapons used by armies on the
ground and private communications sets to contact their
headquarters via satellites).
So the job of the Yellow Jackets is just one of the many
preparations for the coming serious destruction of most parts in
Europe which is scheduled to start in about two years (unless a
miracle will happen). Even now, I can say that I will not be
surprised seeing even the Eiffel Tower (France’s pride) lying on
the ground anytime in the coming decade (20’s).
[/quote]I don't see much that is new with the events in France.
The French have a history of using violence domestically. You
might even say it's one of their national pastimes. Here they
are again, not too long after an election, protesting the
President they just elected; and national polls show Macron
isn't that popular. They aren't very dedicated to democracy
if you ask me. He's only doing what he said he wanted to do
when he was campaigning; then when he does it, the people turn
against him.
That election amazed me since Macron invented his own new
political party, and the French people bought into it. He had
almost no political experience; and many of the people elected
to the French parliament on his party ticket also lacked it.
You see this sort of thing happening in various places. People
get fed up with the political parties that have been in power,
so they think things will improve if they vote for something
new. It's one of gaining power. Trump did it here, and Macron
did it there.
So far, from what I know, nobody's been killed by the police.
Hundreds got arrested but nobody got killed.
HTML https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/paris-protests-hundreds-arrested-in-third-week-of-demonstrations/ar-BBQl61q
More than 200 people were arrested and dozens were injured in
Paris on Saturday after clashes erupted between police and
protesters, according to a police spokesman.
The spokesman told CNN at least 92 people had been injured,
including 14 police officers, after protesters with the "gilet
jaune" or "yellow vest" movement took to the streets to
demonstrate against rising gas prices and taxes on polluting
forms of transport.
Saturday's protests marked the third consecutive week of such
demonstrations, although with an estimated 36,500 participants
across the country they were smaller than those in weeks past,
according to the French Interior Ministry.
Last week about 53,000 participated, and there were about
113,000 the week before.
French Interior Minister Christophe Castaner said on Twitter
Saturday that 1,500 "troublemakers" had infiltrated a group of
about 200 peaceful protesters and had "come to fight" near the
Champs Elysées in Paris.
Footage shared by French police showed a few demonstrators
striking a police vehicle and smashing its windshield. Other
videos captured burning cars and police firing tear gas to
disperse protesters.
Yes, the situation is somewhat similar to that in Syria when it
was just demonstrations. Things in Syria got more serious when
one demonstrator got killed; and the truth is that any police
force can overreact in a violent situation and demonstrators can
die. If that happens in France, things could get worse unless
Macron handles it right. So far, he doesn't seem attuned to the
common people.
Rising fuel prices are largely attributed to a leap in the
wholesale price of oil. Brent crude oil -- a benchmark for
worldwide oil purchases -- increased by more than 20% in the
first half of the year, from around $60 a barrel to $86.07 in
early October.
I believe Macron imposed a new tax on diesel as part of his
green initiative to fight global warming. Add that tax to the
rise in wholesale price of oil, and maybe you can see why some
people are angry. The rich people in Paris don't care; and the
people who don't drive don't care.
Things have already gone from bad to worse. Now it's more than
people protesting. Now people are taking advantage of the
situation by robbing stores, etc.
The violent protests and vandalism in Paris have "absolutely
nothing to do with the peaceful demonstrations of a legitimate
unhappiness or discontent," said Macron at a news conference in
Buenos Aires, where he's attending the G20 summit.
"No cause justifies that security forces are attacked, shops
pillaged, public or private buildings set on fire, pedestrians
or journalists threatened or that the Arc de Triomphe is
sullied," Macron said.
Those responsible will be identified and taken to court, he
added. Macron will be meeting with the French prime minister and
the minister of the interior when he returns to Paris.
So he says, but can he impose peace by using the court system?
I doubt it. If he had control of the situation, those things
wouldn't have happened in the first place. He's a political
novice, just as the incoming President of Mexico is. The
Mexican people may hope for change, but they elected someone
with next to no experience. He's honest, yes, I'll say for him;
but his idea of fighting corruption is to be honest himself and
hope others follow his example. I don't think he has any
practical ideas on how to eliminate corruption.
Can I be critical of Mexican voters? A little but not too --
after all the American people elected Obama who ran on the
slogan "hope and change" without telling us what to hope for or
how he could make it happen, and without telling us what needed
changing and how he'd do it. It was a vague slogan, meaning
nothing, but people bought it.
Back to Macron -- I've little doubt that he sees himself as
something of a Napoleon or Charlemagne with his vision of a
united Europe. Of course, he sees France as increasing its
clout if he can pull off his plans for the EU. With the UK
leaving the EU, that leaves France and Germany as the dominant
countries in the EU. Macron says that suits him; but further
down the road, if there was an EU with those two dominating with
all the others being lesser forces, sooner or later you'd see
France and Germany going at it to see which was going to be
"the" major dominant force.
We can see how that works in Syria, where various factions band
together to defeat some other faction. If they defeat that
faction, then they turn to fighting among themselves for
supremacy. Macron may say he's not in favor of nationalism,
and in a way, I'd say he isn't -- I'd say he may favor
imperialism.
The EU seems to be crumbling to me.
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: KerimF Date: December 1, 2018, 9:35 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20743#msg20743
date=1543704847]
Yes, the situation is somewhat similar to that in Syria when it
was just demonstrations. Things in Syria got more serious when
one demonstrator got killed; and the truth is that any police
force can overreact in a violent situation and demonstrators can
die. If that happens in France, things could get worse unless
Macron handles it right. So far, he doesn't seem attuned to the
common people.
[/quote]
In Daraa town, south of Syria, this needed just hiring a few
snipers and people with mobiles to transmit instantly the
horrible scenes of their victims, killed or injured at random.
One Syrian sniper (paid very well) also shot and killed, by
mistake, his young brother who was supposed to stay at home but
he joined his friends among the protestors (with the hope to
also see himself on TV on the news).
[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20743#msg20743
date=1543704847]
Macron may say he's not in favor of nationalism, and in a way,
I'd say he isn't -- I'd say he may favor imperialism.
[/quote]
France was among the European saved countries in WW2. Since
then, its systems had no choice but to follow the instruction of
its powerful saviours while the men on power play being free and
independent (as my dear great actor D. Trump does :D ).
[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20743#msg20743
date=1543704847]
The EU seems to be crumbling to me.
[/quote]
EU was created by America so that the Big Bosses can control all
Europe via one system (hired to supervise and run the union)
instead of controlling many separate countries. The best
achievement of EU is following the US administration in imposing
sanctions which also affected badly the European economy as well
:D
But now, "the European Spring" is at the doors (just a couple of
years remaining). Europe should be divided as it was. UK is out
and now one of the main demands of the French "Yellow Vests" is
the separation from EU.
To me, everything goes as planned.
To you, it is impossible for the common people to be driven as
sheep :)
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: Kerry Date: December 2, 2018, 1:26 am
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[quote author=KerimF link=topic=1369.msg20750#msg20750
date=1543721756]
To you, it is impossible for the common people to be driven as
sheep :)
[/quote]Sheep should follow good shepherds, but sometimes they
get bad shepherds -- mostly because they're rebellious and do
not want to follow the good shepherd. Thus David, writing of
the generation of his day and comparing to that of Moses's day,
wrote:
Psalm 95:6 O come, let us worship and bow down: let us kneel
before the Lord our maker.
7 For he is our God; and we are the people of his pasture, and
the sheep of his hand. To day if ye will hear his voice,
8 Harden not your heart, as in the provocation, and as in the
day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my work.
10 Forty years long was I grieved with this generation, and
said, It is a people that do err in their heart, and they have
not known my ways:
11 Unto whom I sware in my wrath that they should not enter into
my rest.
Now by no means should we believe God as as shepherd forsook His
sheep. While it's true that Israel errred and could not enter
the Land of Promise or the eternal rest, God continued to lead
them and to protect them. They continued to follow the cloud of
presence that God gave to lead them. Thus we should never say
that Israel "wandered" in the wilderness for forty years. No,
the Hebrew word is ra'ah meaning "graze." They "grazed" in the
wilderness for forty years. Is the Arabic word similar? For
some odd reason, the KJV translated it as "wandered" and it's
become a popular misconception.
Numbers 14:33 And your children shall wander <should read
"graze"> in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms,
until your carcases be wasted in the wilderness.
God does not give up on His sheep, as Jesus reminded us in his
story about the lost sheep. Although the children of Israel did
not enter the Land of Promise then or the eternal rest,
eventually they all will. As Paul tells us:
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written,
There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away
ungodliness from Jacob:
It's a matter of time. God's sheep can be driven by evil men if
they are not hearing the Voice of God as David said. It's one
of the big spiritual problems of this world; and I believe
eventually men who now crave wicked leaders (just as Israel
often did) will tire of it and begin to listen to the Voice of
God. Is anything different now from the way it was with Israel
when they craved a worldly king?
1 Samuel 8:4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves
together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not
in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the
nations.
6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a
king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the Lord.
7 And the Lord said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the
people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not
rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not
reign over them.
8 According to all the works which they have done since the day
that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day,
wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do
they also unto thee.
9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest
solemnly unto them, and shew them the manner of the king that
shall reign over them.
Samuel then tells them what kind of leaders they will have.
10 And Samuel told all the words of the Lord unto the people
that asked of him a king.
11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall
reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for
himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some
shall run before his chariots.
12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains
over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap
his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments
of his chariots.
13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to
be cooks, and to be bakers.
14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your
oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his
servants.
15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your
vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.
16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and
your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his
work.
17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his
servants.
18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which
ye shall have chosen you; and the Lord will not hear you in that
day.
Are things much different today? For me, this is a result of
men rejecting God and putting their faith in men, hoping this
man or that will save them.
Psalm 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of
man, in whom there is no help.
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: KerimF Date: December 2, 2018, 9:31 am
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20751#msg20751
date=1543735619]
Are things much different today? For me, this is a result of
men rejecting God and putting their faith in men, hoping this
man or that will save them.
Psalm 146:3 Put not your trust in princes, nor in the son of
man, in whom there is no help.
[/quote]
Why should they be different?
In the wild jungle, the evolved animals have also sort of
kings/leaders while being guided by their instincts (God's
instructions).
In other words, Kings, actually ruling systems, are a must for
those who weren't born of the Spirit (much like the ancient kids
of humanity) and are the great majority in the world (yes, the
material world needs a huge number of human servants; besides
the zillion of other living things).
Naturally, the masters and followers of every ruling system
(even a system that is claimed being religious/spiritual) have
no choice but to look for survival at any cost in the first
place (survival as individuals or survival of their well-defined
communities).
So when I talk politics for example, I do it while I recall the
saying "Let the dead bury their dead" :D In other words,
anything a human does without true love (unconditional) will
simply end up to emptiness as it is the end of the entire
universe (the time/space realm), even after a zillion of years.
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: Kerry Date: December 4, 2018, 7:00 am
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[quote author=KerimF link=topic=1369.msg20756#msg20756
date=1543764715]
Why should they be different?
In the wild jungle, the evolved animals have also sort of
kings/leaders while being guided by their instincts (God's
instructions).
In other words, Kings, actually ruling systems, are a must for
those who weren't born of the Spirit (much like the ancient kids
of humanity) and are the great majority in the world (yes, the
material world needs a huge number of human servants; besides
the zillion of other living things).[/quote]Why should man be
different? Because man was created and made in the image and
likeness of God. It is very true that there is something in man
that makes him resemble the herd animals that follow leaders --
and that instinct in man also makes him want to dominate his
fellow man. You see it in nearly all pack animals. Take dogs.
A "new dog" may feel he's ready to challenge the top dog. So
they fight it out. When one dog gives up, he lies down exposing
his neck, basically saying, "Go ahead, bite my neck and kill me
if you want." The winner never does that. Then all the dogs
follow the winner.
Men can be trickier. They may kill the loser. The loser may
just pretend he's given up but is really waiting for another go
at it. Yes, yes, there is something about men that makes them
resemble pack animals. Actually this is the same instinct,
when properly harnessed, makes them part of the Body of Christ.
When we're taking our orders from the Christ Spirit, we realize
that true life and peace can be found only by obedience to the
Head of the Body of Christ.
[quote]Naturally, the masters and followers of every ruling
system (even a system that is claimed being religious/spiritual)
have no choice but to look for survival at any cost in the first
place (survival as individuals or survival of their well-defined
communities).[/quote]They must also concern themselves with the
survival of the people they govern. Even if they don't care
about them, even if they aren't taking actions for the good of
the governed, they need to give the impression they care and are
trying -- it's either that or they must resort to governing by
fear.
[quote]So when I talk politics for example, I do it while I
recall the saying "Let the dead bury their dead" :D In other
words, anything a human does without true love (unconditional)
will simply end up to emptiness as it is the end of the entire
universe (the time/space realm), even after a zillion of years.
[/quote]At the end of the universe, yes . . . but until mankind
solves these problems, they can get recycled almost endlessly.
Take these yellow jackets, as you call them. Supposedly (and I
believe it) at first they lacked leaders. That can happen when
enough people in a country are unhappy. But once that starts,
you will almost always find people popping up trying to lead
them; and usually leaders do emerge. The Tea Party in the US
started to get a little violent before some leaders emerged and
realized that could damage their movement. So they clamped down
on the violence. But the leaders who emerged were not honestly
interested in pursuing the goals of the average person in the
movement. They started websites; and one startup site got
rather rich collecting donations from people who thought they
were making a difference. Then the politicians joined in and
mouthed the same things, trying to become leaders of these angry
people.
It does seem that some "leaders" have emerged in France. At
least there are some people who claim to be leaders and who want
to hold talks with the Macron government. The Macron
government also caved in and said the new taxes on diesel would
not go into effect, thus revealing they will give in to
demonstrations if there's enough violence. The Macron regime
is in danger then, since any government that caves in to
violence is saying they can't keep law and order, they can't
make decisions and govern, that some decisions will be made by
mobs on the streets. And that encourages more riots, more mobs,
more rebellion. Macron's first mistake was being so
out-of-touch with people. He should have known there would be
resentment and demonstrations with his proposed tax. He may
have known it but underestimated how bad things could get.
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: KerimF Date: December 4, 2018, 10:49 pm
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I am afraid that what you say is what the people around the
world are supposed to believe.
Those who form Macron's regime are not naïve or ignorant. They
know very well what may happen after they take every decision;
it is their job (though they too are instructed to take some
decisions that serve the World Terror War; the long war which
was agreed on, deliberately or not, by all systems in the
world).
About a year before the Terror Show opening in Syria (in March
2011), the Syrian government started imposing trade regulations
which were clearly against the Syrian people's economy (most
Syrians work privately). So many businesses started to slow down
and jobless people started to increase rather quickly. Then,
when millions of dollars were sent to support Obama's rebels in
Syria, many Syrians were ready to accept the well-paid war jobs
(one of my customers moved to join FSA for money, in US dollars,
and promises as of a high position after victory; he ended up to
be a commander of a few thieves and killers near Aleppo. But
there is no news about him since 3 years).
"Europe Spring" will not start, seriously and in one European
country after another, till around 2021. So now the persons who
were chosen to be on power in the European systems are preparing
their peoples, economically and intellectually, to face the
coming Terror War in their cities, towns and villages as being a
natural war due to the increase of the psychopaths in the world
;)
Talking logic (though of the wild jungle):
Who were the masters in America before the birth of USA?
From which continent, were most of the traders who were sending
to America African slaves, before the birth of USA?
Should I be surprised that Europe was destroyed in WW2 by USA
Saviours?!
Should I be surprised by knowing that Europe has to be
re-destroyed so that it cannot end its submission to its WW2
Saviours even after 75 years?
Europeans are now in a sort of a siege; thanks to launching the
"Arab Spring" then the "Ukraine Spring" first. When the "Europe
Spring" will start, it will not be easy for many Europeans to
flee towards south or east. But they will have the west... to
where their Saviours are :D
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: Kerry Date: December 5, 2018, 11:46 am
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[quote author=KerimF link=topic=1369.msg20787#msg20787
date=1543985346]
I am afraid that what you say is what the people around the
world are supposed to believe.
Those who form Macron's regime are not naïve or ignorant. They
know very well what may happen after they take every decision;
it is their job (though they too are instructed to take some
decisions that serve the World Terror War; the long war which
was agreed on, deliberately or not, by all systems in the
world).[/quote]More later, but I did a little research on one
fellow in Macron's inner circle.
He sure had one odd pick if you ask me. His choice to be
Minister of the Economy and Finance did attend a prestigious
school, the Sorbonne where he studied. . . make sure you're
sitting down before reading this. . . French literature. That
surely prepared him to make wise decisions about the French
economy! After that he entered École nationale
d'administration which was established by de Gaulle to teach
elite candidates that are chosen how to behave properly as
bureaucrats. His first job, following these studies in French
literature and the technicalities of how to be a bureaucrat was
in the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. I am laughing as I'm
typing. Then he became Minister of Food, Agriculture and
Fishing. None of this qualified him, if you ask me, to head up
the Ministry of the Economy and Finance. Here's the link to
the article about him at Wikipedia if you want to read the whole
thing.
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruno_Le_Maire
I haven't checked out Macron's entire cabinet; but I found that
one very odd.
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: Kerry Date: December 6, 2018, 6:50 am
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[quote author=KerimF link=topic=1369.msg20787#msg20787
date=1543985346]
"Europe Spring" will not start, seriously and in one European
country after another, till around 2021. So now the persons who
were chosen to be on power in the European systems are preparing
their peoples, economically and intellectually, to face the
coming Terror War in their cities, towns and villages as being a
natural war due to the increase of the psychopaths in the world
;)[/quote]Who chose these people to be in power? Are you sure
about all this, as sure as you were that Hillary Clinton would
be elected? A theory is as good as its ability to predict
events. So what's next for France? What's next for the UK?
[quote]Talking logic (though of the wild jungle):
Who were the masters in America before the birth of
USA?[/quote]The British controlled much of North America with
Spain and France competing.
[quote]From which continent, were most of the traders who were
sending to America African slaves, before the birth of
USA?[/quote]That would be Europe.
[quote]Should I be surprised that Europe was destroyed in WW2 by
USA Saviours?![/quote]
You should be since I don't think it's true. Europe was
destroyed because their leaders could not control their
rapacious natures. The US wisely stayed out of things for a
long time, saving lots of money while the Europeans were wasting
lives and money and creating chaos around the globe. The reason
the US emerged as the powerhouse, as the dominant financial
force, after the war was because they had stayed out of the war
for years while other countries were devastating each other.
[quote]Should I be surprised by knowing that Europe has to be
re-destroyed so that it cannot end its submission to its WW2
Saviours even after 75 years?
Europeans are now in a sort of a siege; thanks to launching the
"Arab Spring" then the "Ukraine Spring" first. When the "Europe
Spring" will start, it will not be easy for many Europeans to
flee towards south or east. But they will have the west... to
where their Saviours are :D
[/quote]I will wait for your predictions about France and the
UK. The state of the world, generally speaking, resembles its
state prior to WWI when the various predatory European countries
ran out of new lands to colonize. That was fairly easy to do
too because of the invention of guns. While the Chinese
invented gunpowder, all they used it for was fireworks. Then,
after the Europeans ran out of places to colonize, they started
fighting each other more. Germany felt left out, felt like a
loser on the world stage, not having many (if any) colonies.
So there was a war; and when Germany lost, the winners did not
treat them well, rather they imposed very severe conditions on
the German people. That led to the unrest that made it possible
for Hitler to rise to power.
If there is a lesson in that, it is to treat your defeated
enemies gently. Teach them that wars are unnecessary and it's
better to invest in more peaceful endeavors. The US did that
with Germany and Japan after WWII; and they became our friends
and allies.
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Re: The European Spring is at the doors :(
By: KerimF Date: December 6, 2018, 5:55 pm
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[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20792#msg20792
date=1544100643]
Who chose these people to be in power? Are you sure about all
this, as sure as you were that Hillary Clinton would be elected?
A theory is as good as its ability to predict events. So
what's next for France? What's next for the UK?
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Here I wasn't predicting. I was referring to those on power in
Europe who were chosen already, also via free elections; as D.
Trump was chosen instead of H. Clinton ;) About the latter,
before the last US election, I was sure that the one who will be
chosen to be President has to go on (as Bush then Obama did)
flaming the world, one country after another, in the endless
international series "War on Terror". It happened that, during
the early years of the Syrian crisis, H. Clinton was the great
grandmother who was loved by all armed Islamist groups (local
and foreigners) who were spreading terror in Syria. She used
encouraging them continuously and asked them not to end their
fight (actually it was mostly terror against civilians) till
they get the head of the Syrian dictator (as requested first by
the White House since March 2011). So, I didn't imagine (due to
lack of information) that there was a great grandfather too who
can do this job (besides many others) but with a much greater
talent. I mean if I had the chance to know D. Trump as I knew H.
Clinton, I would certainly predict the winning of this talented
grandfather instead ;)
[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20792#msg20792
date=1544100643]
The British controlled much of North America with Spain and
France competing.
That would be Europe.You should be since I don't think it's
true. Europe was destroyed because their leaders could not
control their rapacious natures. The US wisely stayed out of
things for a long time, saving lots of money while the Europeans
were wasting lives and money and creating chaos around the
globe. The reason the US emerged as the powerhouse, as the
dominant financial force, after the war was because they had
stayed out of the war for years while other countries were
devastating each other.
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I guess you agree with me that, before WW2, Germany and USA (as
systems) were close allies. So, unless you think that the German
Nazis were naïve and not intelligent (intelligent as you and I
in the least), they didn't risk starting their war to unify all
Europe under one system (theirs) without having a green light
from their American fellows first. In fact, the Nazis were
advised by their American counterparts to unify Europe even by
force (as the birth of USA), so that USA and the unified Europe
will have both better chances to oppose the growing Communism.
In other words, WW2 was started for a westerner noble cause.
Only too late and when almost all Europe became under the Nazis
control, these Nazis realised that they were used simply to put
France and UK (the two greatest powers at that time) out of the
world's powers game. They trusted so much their American fellows
to the point they didn't mind doing them an extra favour by
attacking directly the Communist Russia as well (a silly attack
by which they lost a lot, besides joining Russians with the
American Saviours against them).
Before invading Europe from the west (and east), no more than
20% of Europe was destroyed. And many European regions weren't
even aware that there was a war in Europe. But after "freeing"
Europe, not less than 80% of it was destroyed.
Now, you know why the US administration had to stay out of the
war for a few years :D
[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20792#msg20792
date=1544100643]
I will wait for your predictions about France and the UK.
[/quote]
I have no doubt that France will be hit by the "Europe Spring".
But I am not sure if UK or Germany was chosen to be the main
headquarter of Terror in Europe. In any case, Europe will be
divided again before 2021. After all, the important mission in
the "War on Terror" series for which EU was created, is almost
over now.
[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20792#msg20792
date=1544100643]
The state of the world, generally speaking, resembles its state
prior to WWI when the various predatory European countries ran
out of new lands to colonize. That was fairly easy to do too
because of the invention of guns. While the Chinese invented
gunpowder, all they used it for was fireworks. Then, after the
Europeans ran out of places to colonize, they started fighting
each other more. Germany felt left out, felt like a loser on
the world stage, not having many (if any) colonies. So there was
a war; and when Germany lost, the winners did not treat them
well, rather they imposed very severe conditions on the German
people. That led to the unrest that made it possible for Hitler
to rise to power.
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The biggest winner of WW1 was the side who took over the richest
natural resources in Middle East. And while France and UK were
supposed to be the big winners in WW1, they were not allow to
control the defeated Turkey and the lands of oil as they (France
and UK) were allowed to do over many other countries.
Let us not forget. Because of the Europe destruction in WW2, all
French and British colonies in the Arab world (and perhaps
elsewhere) got their so-called independence. Since then the plan
of the "New World Order" started and followed lately by the
"Great Middle East" (soon after the perfect crimes on 9/11/2001,
claimed being planned by psychopaths). Naturally, the role given
to D. Trump includes serving these two plans, mainly the former
one.
So far, things are going as planned; thanks to the Russian Elite
who are cooperating under the table; though over the table
Russia is the USA enemy #1 :D
[quote author=Kerry link=topic=1369.msg20792#msg20792
date=1544100643]
If there is a lesson in that, it is to treat your defeated
enemies gently. Teach them that wars are unnecessary and it's
better to invest in more peaceful endeavors. The US did that
with Germany and Japan after WWII; and they became our friends
and allies.
[/quote]
Did they have the choice not to be allies? They are actually
submitted to the new World's Masters; as wild horses do when...
you know ;)
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