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contraversial topic
By: meshak Date: August 10, 2018, 2:40 pm
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Is this where I can post?
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Re: contraversial topic
By: meshak Date: August 10, 2018, 3:52 pm
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I started the thread already.
I hope you don't mind.
thank you:)
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Re: contraversial topic
By: HOLLAND Date: August 10, 2018, 6:28 pm
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=1350.msg19566#msg19566
date=1533930015]
Is this where I can post?
[/quote]
Welcome back, Meshak. Have you completed the yard work that
took you away from us?
[quote author=meshak link=topic=1350.msg19568#msg19568
date=1533934372]
I started the thread already.
I hope you don't mind.
thank you:)
[/quote]
??? I don't know what to say. I thought that a contraversial
topic meant that you were referring to some strongly held animus
against poetry. That is because "contra" is being against
something in particular and "versial" could refer to
versification.
It would be an interesting subject to explore. I suppose that
one could put up an example of versification and one could see
if one could write the same subject in prose form that would be
equally appealing. Let's take for example Thomas Gray's "Elegy
Written In A Country Churchyard":
The curfew tolls the knell of parting day,
The lowing herd wind slowly o'er the lea
The ploughman homeward plods his weary way,
And leaves the world to darkness and to me.
Now fades the glimm'ring landscape on the sight,
And all the air a solemn stillness holds,
Save where the beetle wheels his droning flight,
And drowsy tinklings lull the distant folds;
Save that from yonder ivy-mantled tow'r
The moping owl does to the moon complain
Of such, as wand'ring near her secret bow'r,
Molest her ancient solitary reign. (lines 1�12)
I wonder how the start of this poem could be done in prose. It
would be quite a project, I suppose.
When I awakened intellectually, I was drawn to the New England
Transcendentalists, particularly Ralph Waldo Emerson and Henry
David Thoreau. At the same time I was drawn to the English
Romantic poets and British Transcendentalism, particularly
Thomas Carlyle. Poetry and its meaning seems to run through the
skein of things. Perhaps it's the existentialism that runs
through me. What are your thoughts?
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Re: contraversial topic
By: meshak Date: August 10, 2018, 7:12 pm
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[quote author=HOLLAND link=topic=1350.msg19570#msg19570
date=1533943693]
Welcome back, Meshak. Have you completed the yard work that
took you away from us?[/quote]
hello holland,
Yes, I am pretty much done but I still have maintaing yard work
daily.
I already started controverstial topic.
I hope you join.
it is here holland:
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Re: contraversial topic
By: HOLLAND Date: August 11, 2018, 6:35 pm
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=1350.msg19571#msg19571
date=1533946336]
hello holland,
Yes, I am pretty much done but I still have maintaing yard work
daily.
I already started controverstial topic.
I hope you join.
it is here holland:
HTML http://lovegodonly.createaforum.com/comments-opinions/i-believe-trinity-churches-are-anti-christ-churches/
[/quote]
hmmnn Meshak . . .
You may want to talk about Trinity when I've brought up Thomas
Gray. Now you can always talk about the Trinity. There are
fewer opportunities to talk about Thomas Gray. I think you
should consider Thomas Gray and what he wrote in the following
lines. They provide much to think about.
Full many a gem of purest ray serene,
The dark unfathom'd caves of ocean bear:
Full many a flow'r is born to blush unseen,
And waste its sweetness on the desert air.
Some village-Hampden, that with dauntless breast
The little tyrant of his fields withstood;
Some mute inglorious Milton here may rest,
Some Cromwell guiltless of his country's blood.
The applause of listening senates to command,
The threats of pain and ruin to despise,
To scatter plenty o'er a smiling land,
And read their hist'ry in a nation's eyes,
Their lot forbade: nor circumscrib'd alone
Their growing virtues, but their crimes confin'd;
Forbade to wade through slaughter to a throne,
And shut the gates of mercy on mankind,
The struggling pangs of conscious truth to hide,
To quench the blushes of ingenuous shame,
Or heap the shrine of Luxury and Pride
With incense kindled at the Muse's flame. (lines 53�72)
There is a lot of wastage in life. We must make the most of the
time that has been allotted unto us . . .
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Re: contraversial topic
By: meshak Date: August 11, 2018, 8:57 pm
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Sorry Holland,
I am not interested in debating any doctrine.
Everyone reads the Bible differently.
So it is meaningless to me.
Jesus says we know them by their fruit.
I read "fruit" is what we practice.
blessings.
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Re: contraversial topic
By: HOLLAND Date: August 11, 2018, 9:03 pm
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=1350.msg19592#msg19592
date=1534039055]
Sorry Holland,
I am not interested in debating any doctrine.
Everyone reads the Bible differently.
So it is meaningless to me.
Jesus says we know them by their fruit.
I read "fruit" is what we practice.
blessings.
[/quote]
Thomas Gray, Meshak, is not speaking about doctrine. He's
speaking about praxis and how time and life has permitted some
to be able to do things that others have not been able to do.
Gray is speaking about the "fruits" in his manner of speaking .
. .
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Re: contraversial topic
By: guest6 Date: August 11, 2018, 9:14 pm
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=1350.msg19592#msg19592
date=1534039055]
Sorry Holland,
I am not interested in debating any doctrine.
Everyone reads the Bible differently.
So it is meaningless to me.
Jesus says we know them by their fruit.
I read "fruit" is what we practice.
blessings.
[/quote]
What does scripture say is the "fruit" of the spirit?
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Re: contraversial topic
By: meshak Date: August 11, 2018, 10:42 pm
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[quote author=Heartsong link=topic=1350.msg19597#msg19597
date=1534040065]
What does scripture say is the "fruit" of the spirit?
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That's Paul's teaching.
Jesus and John the Baptist talks about plain fruit, a lot.
They are talking about what we practice, which ought to be
following Jesus' teachings.
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Re: contraversial topic
By: Kerry Date: August 11, 2018, 11:10 pm
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[quote author=meshak link=topic=1350.msg19599#msg19599
date=1534045369]
That's Paul's teaching.
Jesus and John the Baptist talks about plain fruit, a lot.
They are talking about what we practice, which ought to be
following Jesus' teachings.
[/quote]
What did he say?
Matthew 22:35 Then one of them, which was a lawyer, asked him a
question, tempting him, and saying,
36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with
all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour
as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Paul said the same:
Romans 13:10Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love
is the fulfilling of the law.
Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in
this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
James too:
James 2:8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
We are not going to be judged by what we were taught or by what
we believe. We will be judged by our works; and the person with
the Spirit of God will demonstrate the Divine Love in his works.
The person who is guided by the Christ Spirit will demonstrate
it in his works.
Matthew 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither
can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
Some Trinitarians have borne good fruit, if you ask me. They
are guided by Love, not by the belief that their salvation
depends on having all the right ideas about God. Who can say
he has all the right ideas about God anyway? I can't. God is
something of a mystery to me, above my understanding. Earthly
things, how I treat my neighbor, are more easily understood.
Am I faithful in these earthly things? If so, I can expect God
to reward with more understanding of Heavenly things.
Matthew 25:21 His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and
faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I
will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy
of thy lord.
John 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not,
how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?
People may want to fly too high. I say take it easy. God put
us on the earth, let's live on the earth. Let us seek to
understand others and to love them -- that is something we know
about and do. God is more of a mystery.
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