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       On Happiness Is A Warm Gun
   DIR By: HOLLAND
       Date: March 4, 2018, 11:57 am
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       Considering the continuing acts of mass murder that have
       experienced by many at the hands of young men, it causes me to
       wonder about conceptions of masculinity held by many men.
       Does manhood exist in the capacity to harm others?  Who came up
       with this idea?  In the Latin, the word for man was vir, the
       Latin root of an English word that we know as virility.  But it
       is much more than that.  Vir also is the root for the English
       word virtue.  Why is the current conception of manhood, on the
       part of many men, separated from virtue?  Isn't true manhood
       meant to be a virtuous man?  And doesn't virtue mean empathy,
       forbearance, patience, and ultimately gentleness and wisdom?
       The great Japanese film producer, Akira Kurosawa, sensed that
       violence was damaging to society, in his movie Yojimbo, he
       portrays men obsessed with their swords and the violence that
       they can do.  The chief villain in the film, Ushitora, appears
       to have a rare pre-Civil War revolver, an early one that uses
       metal cartridges, and when he is mortally wounded wants to die
       with it in his hands.  To this character, he would feel naked
       without it, and he does not want any prayers for him as he lays
       dying.  To the hero of the movie, Yojimbo, he tells him that he
       will wait for him at the gates of hell.  The movie scene below
       gives a lot to think about.  My apologies for how the scene was
       titled by FilmStruck . . .   :(
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCjsazHO0c0
       In the scene death consumes people.  It is as if Kurosawa is
       seeing that manhood is death.  Is this a fair interpretation of
       the scene?
       The prayer drum, by the way, is not only a summons for other
       people to come and pray.  It is also a form of prayer for those
       whose grief has gone beyond the utterance of words.  A prayer
       drum in a society indicates a high level of cruelty and grief .
       . .
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       Re: On Happiness Is A Warm Gun
   DIR By: paralambano
       Date: March 4, 2018, 12:38 pm
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       Holland - ^
       Ya, I don't know anything about Kurosawa but that he's famous
       and considered to be a great Japanese film director since I've
       heard his name mentioned with regard to movies. The excerpt of
       the movie you gave, however, looks pretty bleak  -   -  that is,
       people looking like they might be fighting in and for some kind
       of dump (?).
       Anyway, you asked about whether the director equated manhood
       with death. There aren't any women in the scenes so I suppose
       with the fighting and dying in them, men die. I don't know that
       they're fighting and dying just for the sake of fighting and
       dying, probably for something else. The whole thing seems to be
       depressing to me. Women die too fighting for their lives
       sometimes. Kurosawa probably knows it too.
       Sorry I couldn't be of help.
       para .  .   .  .
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       Re: On Happiness Is A Warm Gun
   DIR By: Kerry
       Date: March 5, 2018, 5:12 am
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       My impression is they're wallowing in outdated stereotypes.  I
       don't know how seriously to take it.   My guess is someone was
       trying to portray something accurately and something audiences
       would pay to see.
       Another film "Sukiyaki Western Django" appears  to be half spoof
       of American westerns and  half something else judging by these
       clips:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZrr-bKVErA
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r99Vx0nU9e4
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       Re: On Happiness Is A Warm Gun
   DIR By: HOLLAND
       Date: March 5, 2018, 7:15 pm
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       --- Quote from: Kerry link ---
       >
       > My impression is they're wallowing in outdated stereotypes.  I
       don't know how seriously to take it.   My guess is someone was
       trying to portray something accurately and something audiences
       would pay to see.
       --- End Quote ---
       Kerry, the film producer, Akira Kurosawa was deeply influenced
       by Shakespeare and the pre-WW2 American Westerns and so his
       samurai movies reflect those influences.  The movie Yojimbo was
       less serious than many of his other pictures but it was, at a
       certain level, an oblique criticism of the acceptance of
       violence in Japanese society.  For Kurowasa, bushido was
       ultimately seen as destructive if it didn't include chivalry.
       In his very exquisite last film (he wrote the script and his
       colleagues produced it) after his death, the film After The Rain
       (1999), he has his main character,  Ihei Misawa(Akira Teneo),
       portray wonderful acts of mercy and charity for others.  See the
       following scene from that movie:
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5c8EOtRQLE
       For Kurosawa, he had the dilemma of portraying a man who
       realizes he is ill-fitted for his society since he is not
       wanting to be the trained killer that his society and class
       wants him to be, but, portraying him in a manner that would be
       recognized as plausible in feudal Japan.
       --- Quote ---
       > Another film "Sukiyaki Western Django" appears  to be half
       spoof of American westerns and  half something else judging by
       these clips . . .
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       The clips are clearly satirizing the samurai and Western movies.
       But they appear to have been done with satire to an extreme.
       The movie appears very strange to me.  I would find it difficult
       to relate or have sympathy for any of the characters in that
       movie.
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