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Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Kerry Date: October 23, 2012, 7:08 pm
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The complete list contains over 100 descriptions; and the first
74 are somewhat different in style from the last ones, leading
some to say two authors are involved and that the later ones are
forgeries. Other people say the first 74 were not real but
written after the fact.
Let's just look at the last 36 for now. Some of the
descriptions are vague. Some are clearer.
75 Ex antiquitate urbis
From the oldness of a city
Gregory XIV
From Wikipedia
HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Gregory_XIV:
Niccolò Sfondrati was born at Somma Lombardo, then part of the
Duchy of Milan, in the highest stratum of Milanese society. His
mother, of the house of Visconti, died in childbirth. His father
Francesco Sfondrati, a senator of the ancient comune of Milan,
was created Cardinal-Priest by Pope Paul III in 1544.
In his youth he was known for his modest lifestyle and stringent
piety. He studied at Perugia and Padua, was ordained a priest
and swiftly appointed Bishop of Cremona, in 1560, in time to
participate in the sessions of the Council of Trent from 1561 to
1563. Pope Gregory XIII made him a Cardinal-Priest of Santa
Cecilia in Trastevere on 12 December 1583. Sfondrati was a close
follower of Carlo Cardinal Borromeo, and when cardinal he
celebrated the Requiem Mass for Borromeo on 7 November 1584.[1]
Sfondrati was an intimate friend and a great admirer of Philip
Neri, an Italian priest who died in 1595 and was canonised in
1622.
Cremona is a very ancient city.
Again from Wikipedia
HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bishop_of_Cremona:
Cremona is in Lombardy, Italy, on the left bank of the River Po.
It was built by the Cenomanni Gauls, but later became a Roman
colony and a frontier fortress.
About 600 Cremona, until then Byzantine, was captured by the
Lombard king, Agilulf. Under the Emperor Otto I and his
successors, its bishops acquired temporal sovereignty, but in
900 the people expelled Bishop Olderico and adopted a republican
form of government.
The Emperor Henry IV (1056–1106), however, confirmed Bishop
Landulf in all imperial grants made to his predecessors. On the
other hand Emperor Henry V (1106–25) restored to the people
their communal rights. Thenceforth Cremona became a citadel of
Ghibellinism and was greatly favoured by Frederic Barbarossa and
Emperor Frederick II, though for the same reason frequently at
war with the neighbouring cities. In later medieval times it had
many lords or "tyrants", the Pallavicini, the Bovara, the
Cavalcabo, the Visconti, the Sforza, until it became part of the
Duchy of Milan (1328). In 1702 it was taken by imperial troops,
and in 1796 and 1800 fell into the hands of the French.
The people of Cremona venerate St. Sabinus as their first
missionary and first bishop; he is said to have lived in the 1st
century of our era. Among the better-known early bishops are St.
Syrinus (c. 340), a valiant apologist of the Faith against the
Arians, and St. Silvinus (733); the latter is held in great
veneration. Liudprand of Cremona was sent (946) as ambassador to
Constantinople by the Emperor Otto II, and is the most famous
historical writer of the 10th century.
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75 Pia civitas in bello
A dutiful state in war
Innocent IX
This describes Innocent's actions prior to his becoming Pope as
nuncio to Venice. From Wikipedia
HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Innocent_IX
again:
Facchinetti, whose family came from Crodo, in the diocese of
Novara, northern Italy, was born in Bologna on 20 July 1519. He
was a lawyer, a graduate in 1544 of the University of Bologna,
which was pre-eminent in jurisprudence, and became secretary to
Cardinal Nicolò Ardinghelli before entering the service of
Alessandro Cardinal Farnese, brother of the Duke of Parma and
grandson of Pope Paul III (1534–1549), one of the great patrons
of the time. The Cardinal, who was archbishop of Avignon, sent
Facchinetti there as his ecclesiastical representative and
subsequently recalled him to the management of his affairs at
Parma, where he was acting governor of the city, from 1556 to
1558. In 1560, Facchinetti was named Bishop of Nicastro, in
Calabria, and in 1562 was present at the Council of Trent. Pope
Pius V (1566–1572) sent him as papal nuncio to Venice in 1566 to
further the papal alliance with Spain and Venice against the
Turks, which ultimately resulted in the victory of Lepanto in
1571. Relinquishing his see to pursue his career in Rome, he was
named titular Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem in 1572.
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Kerry Date: October 23, 2012, 7:35 pm
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77 Crux Romulea
A Roman cross
Clement VIII
This prophecy is somewhat vague and hard to pinpoint. The
Catholic Church did regain some territories that had been taken
by Protestants.
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78 Undosus ver
A surging man
Leo XI
Another vague prophecy. Perhaps it is a reference to the short
reign of this Pope which surged and then passed quickly like a
wave?
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79 Gens perversa
A perverse people
Paul VI
This is probably a reference to the Protestants who engaged in
the Thiry Year War
HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years'_War
which began under
Paul VI.
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80 In tribulatione pacis
In tribulation of peace
Gregory XV
I'm not sure how to read this; but Gregory had his problems in
spite of his successes in several areas. From New Advent
HTML http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07004b.htm:
The great activity which Gregory XV displayed in the inner
management of the Church was equalled by his efficacious
interposition in the politics of the world, whenever the
interests of Catholicity were involved. He gave great financial
assistance to Emperor Ferdinand II in regaining the Kingdom of
Bohemia and the hereditary dominions of Austria. Gregory XV then
sent Carlos Caraffa as nuncio to Vienna, to assist the emperor
by his advice in his efforts to suppress Protestantism,
especially in Bohemia and Moravia, where the Protestants
considerably outnumbered the Catholics. To a great extent it was
also due to the influence of Gregory XV that, at a meeting of
princes at Ratisbon, the Palatinate and the electoral dignity
attached to it were granted to Duke Maximilian of Bavaria in the
early part of January, 1623. In order to effect this grant, the
pope had previously sent the Capuchin Father Hyacinth, a skilled
diplomat, to the imperial court at Vienna. The transfer of the
Palatinate Electorate from a Protestant (Frederick V) to a
Catholic was of great consequence, since it secured a Catholic
majority in the supreme council of the empire. Out of gratitude
to Pope Gregory XV, Maximilian presented him with the Palatinate
library of Heidelberg, containing about 3500 manuscripts. Early
in 1623 Gregory XV sent the Greek theologian Leo Allatius to
transport the valuable collection to Rome, where it was put up
as the "Gregoriana" in the Vatican Library. Thirty-nine of these
manuscripts, which had come to Paris in 1797, were returned to
Heidelberg at the Peace of Paris in 1815, and Pius VII returned
852 others as a gift in 1816.
The relations between England and the Roman See assumed a more
friendly character during the pontificate of Gregory XV. For a
time it seemed probable that, through the intended marriage of
the Prince of Wales (afterwards King Charles I) with the Spanish
Infanta Maria, Catholicity could be restored in England. Though
the pope favored the marriage, it never took place. The
treatment, however, of the Catholic subjects of James I became
more tolerable and, to some extent at least, they enjoyed
religious liberty. In France, the power of the Huguenots was on
the decrease, owing to the influence of Gregory XV with King
Louis XIII. Here the Capuchins, the Jesuits, and the Franciscans
converted large numbers of heretics to Catholicity. Even in the
Netherlands, that stronghold of Protestantism, a Catholic
reaction set in, despite the fact that the Catholic priests were
persecuted and expelled from the country.
The Catholic rulers respected the authority of Gregory XV, not
only in religious affairs, but also in matters of a purely
political nature. This was noticeable when an international
dispute arose concerning the possession of the Valtelline (1620)
the Spaniards occupied that district, while the Austrians took
possession of the Grisons passes and were in close proximity to
the Spaniards. The proximity of the two allied armies endangered
the interests of France, Venice, and Savoy. These three powers,
therefore, combined to compel the Austrians and Spaniards to
evacuate the Valtelline, by force of arms if necessary. Upon
request, Pope Gregory XV intervened by sending his brother
Orazio at the head of the pontifical troops to take temporary
possession of the Valtelline. After a little reluctance on the
part of Archduke Leopold of Austria, the disputed territory with
its fortresses was yielded to Orazio, and the impending war was
thus averted.
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Kerry Date: October 23, 2012, 11:06 pm
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81 Lilium et rosa
The lily and the rose
Urban VIII
Various explanations exist for this. It could be pointing to
the arms of a previous Pope by this name, Urban IV. It could
also point to Spoleto which has the rose as its symbol and where
Urban VIII had been Bishop. He was born in Florence which has
the rose as its symbol.
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82 Jucunditas Crucis
The Pleasure of the Cross
Innocent X
Two explanations exist for this also. The first is that he had
the pleasure of seeing the ends of the Thirty Years War and of
80 year conflict in the Netherlands. It could has something to
do with this medallion struck during his reign -- Pope Innocent
X was elected on the day following the Feast of the Exaltation
of the Cross.
HTML http://www.vaticancoins.com/media/images/products/photos/mazio225_2.jpg
Photo from
HTML http://www.vaticancoins.com/medal/23/Innocent_X_164455_Anno_III_Bronze_Medal/
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83 Montium custos
Guardian of the mountains
Alexander VII
A reference to the Chigi family's crest which is still found in
several places in Italy. I post only one photo from the site:
HTML http://romeartlover.tripod.com/Monti.html
HTML http://romeartlover.tripod.com/Montvill.jpg
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84 Sygnus Glorum
A constellation of swans
Clement IX
The usual explanation is that the future Clement IX occupied a
room called the "Chamber of the Swans" in the conclave prior to
his election. Others think it has something to do with his coat
of arms and some correspondence to the constellation of Cygnus.
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Runner Date: October 24, 2012, 12:02 am
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If todays Pope lives a long time..and then we go for however
long before the end....so, there could still be a very long time
to go yet!!!
So.... no one knows the timing , as this Pope could also not
live a long life...and easily pop-off at any time for some
strange reason....then ...the midnight hours may be closer than
we think!!!
Then, I believe God will say... " Ready or not, here I come! "
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Kerry Date: October 24, 2012, 1:02 am
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[quote author=Runner link=topic=129.msg1156#msg1156
date=1351054936]
If todays Pope lives a long time..and then we go for however
long before the end....so, there could still be a very long time
to go yet!!!
So.... no one knows the timing , as this Pope could also not
live a long life...and easily pop-off at any time for some
strange reason....then ...the midnight hours may be closer than
we think!!!
Then, I believe God will say... " Ready or not, here I come!
"[/quote]
His health is not good. Cardinal Romeo predicted he'd be dead
before the end of the year; and that got spun to mean he was
fearing an assassination attempt; but I'm not sure that's what
the Cardinal actually said while in China. So far as I know, he
didn't say "assassination."
HTML http://news.discovery.com/history/pope-benedict-death-120910.html
HTML http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2012/02/10/Report-Cardinal-predicted-popes-death/UPI-33911328882357/
The various scandals which have been surfacing can also be read
as the insiders expecting him to pass away soon. If they get
the scandals out of the way now, the hope is that the new Pope
could take over more easily.
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Kerry Date: October 25, 2012, 4:31 pm
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85 De flumine magno
From a great river
Clement X
There is a story that he was nearly carried off when a nearby
river flooded. I can't verify that story. It is probably a
reference to the Altieri coat of arms -- from
HTML http://saints.sqpn.com/ncd02085.htm
-- said by some to represent
the Milky Way, a river of stars.
HTML http://saints.sqpn.com/ncd02085.gif
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86 Bellus insatiabilus
The insatiable beast
Innocent XI
Two theories on this. One is that the Pope is being defined by
his nemesis, King Louis XIV as the insatiable beast. From
Papalartifacts.com
HTML http://www.papalartifacts.com/pope/15:
Innocent XI who was deeply committed to reform and personal
piety is unfortunately remembered chiefly for his disputes with
King Louis XIV of France. Innocent remained inflexible regarding
encroachments on the Church’s rights by this hegemonic king.
Louis’s reign (1643 – 1715) overlapped the reigns of nine popes
and caused serious havoc during many of them, including that of
Innocent XI. During Clement X’s reign, Louis XIV had extended
the right of regale over several provinces in France where it
had not previously been exercised. This ‘right’ enabled him to
administer both the temporalities and spirtualites of vacant
sees, which, of course, involved a lot of money. Clement’s
conciliatory behavior had been construed as acquiescence, and
the French clergy submitted. The Gallican Articles were then
drafted. Not only did the articles deny the pope authority in
temporal affairs and over kings, they reaffirmed the ancient
liberties of the Gallican church. Innocent rejected the Articles
in 1682. Since he refused to ratify the appointments of bishops,
by 1688, thirty-five bishoprics were vacant in France. The gulf
between France and the papacy widened.
I think it's describing the coat of arms of the Pope's family
which contains a lion (image from vaticancoins.com):
HTML http://www.vaticancoins.com/media/images/products/photos/1684giulio1.jpg
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87 Poenitentia gloriosa
Glorious Penance
Alexander VIII
People disagree on this. Some say it refers to Alexander's
dealing with the Jansensists while others say it is a reference
to St. Bruno with some saying it was becaues Alexander was
elected Pope on St. Bruno's feast day while others say he was
devoted to Bruno.
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88 Rastrum in porta
The rake at the door
Innocent XII
A clear success! The birth name of this Pope was Antonio
Pignatelli del Rastrello.
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89 Flores circumdati
Flowers set to surround
Clement XI
Some allege a medallion was struck with flowers in a circle and
with this motto on it; but I have not found evidence of any such
medallion.
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90 De bona religione
Of good religion
Innocent XIII
One may ask why any Pope would be described this way? Would it
mean that most Popes could not be described this way? However
to the credit of Innocent XIII, we can say he showed more than
the usual discipline by not falling into the usual practice of
nepotism. It may also describe his family since he was the
fourth Conti Pope.
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Kerry Date: October 26, 2012, 12:02 am
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The surprise announcement of six new Cardinals -- all
non-European incidentally -- is fueling speculation about the
Pope's health. From ABS CBN
HTML http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/global-filipino/world/10/24/12/surprise-cardinal-appointments-spark-pope-health-concerns:
Six non-European Catholic prelates will join the Vatican's
College of Cardinals in a move which may influence the election
of the future pope, amid uncertainty over Pope Benedict XVI's
health.
The 85-year-old Benedict, who has been looking increasingly
tired and worn, said Wednesday he will appoint cardinals from
Colombia, India, Lebanon, Nigeria, the Philippines and the
United States in a surprise consistory in November.
The college, the elite body that advises the pontiff and elects
his successor upon his death, is currently heavily weighted in
favor of Europe.
Religious watchers had not expected there to be another
consistory until next year and the surprise announcement sparked
concern among Vatican watchers that the elderly pontiff's health
may be worse than thought.
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Runner Date: October 26, 2012, 9:48 am
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One thing I find really strange is...why on earth are they
always OLD when they get appointed? If they picked a younger guy
he would last longer!!
If it is true that the next one is the last one....what happens
next ::)
Do God roll up the carpet and bring in the new heaven and new
earth? Or do things just 'go on',... but without a Pope?
Probably all stupid questions...but I know nothing about the RC
church.
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Kerry Date: October 26, 2012, 3:51 pm
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^ Sometimes the Cardinals elect a caretaker Pope. If the most
important Cardinals know they lack the votes to be elected now,
they'll settle for a compromise -- someone to be Pope for a few
years. Then at the next election, all the Cardinals who want
to be Pope hope they'll have enough votes to get elected.
It also seems to be a way for the Cardinals (especially those in
the Curia) to keep much of the power in their own hands. The
old man won't have time to consolidate too much power before he
dies. The current Pope does not seem that powerful or
independent to me.
The Copts seem to elect younger men as Coptic Pope. That will
be an interesting election to watch too. There is one fellow
who lives now in the USA in the running. I believe he's an
Egyptian but lives in the USA.
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Re: Prophecies of St. Malachy
By: Kerry Date: October 27, 2012, 6:36 am
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91 Miles in bello
A soldier in war
Benedict XIII
This motto takes some stretching since Benedict was not involved
in any real war. Some point to his family's history since the
Orsinis were often soldiers of fortune; and others point to his
war against the Jews. This is the Pope who was responsible for
the notorious Tortosa Controversy and other harsh antisemitic
measures. Perhaps it refers to his conflict with the Council of
Constance which deposed him. The Jewish Encyclopedia
HTML http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/2924-benedict-xiii-pedro-de-luna<br
/>says of him:
Benedict, who had perjured himself in order to save his tiara,
hoped to atone for his sin before Christendom by a splendid
deed, such as the conversion of the Jews en masse. He therefore
summoned the Jewish notables to a controversy at Tortosa.
Twenty-two of the chief Aragonese Jews answered the summons, and
assembled at Tortosa Feb. 6, 1413. At first Benedict treated
them with kindness; but seeing, in the course of the debates,
that he could not hope to convert them by persuasion, he threw
off his mask and vented his wrath on the Talmud. When all means
of converting them were exhausted without bringing about the
desired results, he dismissed them in anger.
Bull of 1414.
The consequence of this unprecedented controversy, which
extended over a year and nine months (Feb. 6, 1413, to Nov. 12,
1414), was the issuance of an anti-Jewish bull containing eleven
clauses. By the terms of this bull the Jews were prohibited from
studying the Talmud and Talmudical literature. All copies of the
Talmud were confiscated. The communities were forbidden to build
more than one synagogue poorly equipped. The Jews were not
allowed to eat, bathe, or trade with Christians. They were not
to hold any public office; not to follow any handicrafts, nor
even to practise medicine. They were compelled to wear a red or
a yellow badge, and three times a year, during Advent, at
Easter, and in the summer, they were to attend Christian
sermons.
Benedict, being just then deposed by the Council of Constance,
did not live to see his bull enforced, but it bore its fruits;
and the sad end of the Jews of Spain was due to this schismatic
pope and the schismatic rabbi Burgos.
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92 Columna excelsa
A lofty pillar
Clement XII
Probably a reference to his repair work of St. John Lateran with
its pillared facade. Clement did other architectural
improvements. Here are photos of the medallion and of how it
looks today. St. John Lateran, by the way, is considered by
the Catholic Church to be the most important church since it is
the official seat of the Bishop of Rome.
HTML http://www.mcsearch.inf
o/images/30_m/299021.jpg
HTML http://www.romanhomes.com/your_roman_vacation/quarters/early-Christian-Rome/st-john-lateran-facade-10-m3.jpg
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93 Animal rurale
A rustic beast
Benedict XIV
Said by some to be a miss. No strong evidence exists for a
valid interpretation.
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94 Rosa Umbrice
A rose of Umbria
Clement XIII
Vague. He was governor of Rieti for a short while? From
encyclopedia.com
HTML http://www.encyclopedia.com/article-1G2-3407702511/clement-xiii-pope.html:<br
/>
Ecclesiastical Career. Carlo was educated in humanities and
philosophy at the Jesuit college at Bologna, and received his
doctorate in theology and Canon Law at the University of Padua;
in 1714 he entered the Accademia ecclesiastica at Rome to
prepare for a career of diplomacy. Two years later he was
ordained, began service as a prothonotary, and was immediately
appointed by Clement XI governor of Rieti, then of Fano (1721).
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95 Ursus velox
A swift bear
Clement XIV
No family arms, but it is said he was born close to the town of
Rimimi which has a bear on its coat of arms.
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96 Peregrinus Apostolicus
An apostolic wanderer
Pius VI
From Wikipedia
HTML http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_VI:
In 1796 French Republican troops under the command of Napoleon
Bonaparte invaded Italy, defeated the papal troops and occupied
Ancona and Loreto. Pius VI sued for peace, which was granted at
Tolentino on 19 February 1797; but on 28 December of that year,
in a riot blamed by papal forces on some Italian and French
revolutionists, the popular brigadier-general Mathurin-Léonard
Duphot, who had gone to Rome with Joseph Bonaparte as part of
the French embassy, was killed and a new pretext was furnished
for invasion. General Berthier marched to Rome, entered it
unopposed on 10 February 1798, and, proclaiming a Roman
Republic, demanded of the Pope the renunciation of his temporal
authority.
Upon his refusal he was taken prisoner, and on 20 February was
escorted from the Vatican to Siena, and thence to the Certosa
near Florence. The French declaration of war against Tuscany led
to his removal (he was escorted by the Spaniard Pedro Gómez
Labrador, Marquis of Labrador) by way of Parma, Piacenza, Turin
and Grenoble to the citadel of Valence, the chief town of Drôme
where he died six weeks after his arrival, on 29 August 1799,
having then reigned longer than any Pope (except possibly St.
Peter).
Some say a medallion with this inscription was struck. If so, I
can't find a photo of it; and I doubt Pius VI would have had the
means to order such a medallion in the unfortunate circumstances
he found himself.
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